CNN cuts Gen. Clark completely OUT of the 11:00 p.m. Replay of CNN ...

[cosmokramer]

of the Special Report on Iraq. The entire segment of the interview between General Clark and the Bush mouth piece has been removed from the re-broadcast that originally aired live at 8:00 p.m.

But it was captured on US for Clark, and you can watch it here:

video just uploaded!

http://www.us4clark.com/mediaclips.html

[goclark]

1. What did he say in the originally broadast?

Did he say that # is an idiot?
Why would they cut him out-to save time for Scott Peterson?

[cosmokramer]

3. Ice uploaded it...

http://www.us4clark.com/mediaclips.html

[MoonRiver]

2. UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!

CNN.coN is getting another late night rant from moi. :mad:

This is PROOF POSITIVE of how much the rightwing fascists FEAR the GENERAL.

[cosmokramer]

6. Pretty damn disgusting that they completely removed the

segment...like you said, unfuckingbelievable!

My husband and I sat down to watch it together, and HE couldn't believe it...


:wtf:

[Scoopie]

23. I am so fucking pissed!!

Because of the oh-so-lovely Bush economy, I cannot afford anything but dial up.
At 8 p.m., I was bathing my son, reading to him, getting him ready for bed and doing those things that the Mo'Foing right wing Christian nut jobs say they consider important, so I didn't watch the show. I didn't sweat it, either, thinking that I would just watch the replay at 11 p.m.
Now... I'm having to sit and wait for this to download (thanks, btw, Ice - it's certainly not your fault that I don't have anything but dial up) to watch this important piece of commentary.
CNN sucks.
We should all register for Neilson boxes and purposely NEVER watch CNN unless the General is on.
Of course, I don't, anyway, because of their backhanded slaps and ignoring of Clark, but they don't know that.

:mad:

[in_cog_ni_to]

4. I'm saving this thread

and the next time someone says it's "silly to say the media hates Clark....I'll post THIS! :grr: :wtf:

[PROGRESSIVE1]

5. ARGH!!!!!!!

:argh:

[faithnotgreed]

7. so it was a duplicate/replay except for that one clark segment?

if so then i would definitely email cnn and kick this story too

[cosmokramer]

8. Yes, it was a verbatim replay--with the exclusion of Gen. Clark segment

[faithnotgreed]

9. what did they play instead? this shouldnt be unbelievable BUT

IT IS! how blatant are these guys

definitely emailing cnn and politely asking why in the world

[cosmokramer]

11. Seven minutes 52 seconds REMOVED....the entire segment.

It is so blatant I am surprised they continue to do this--is there no integrity whatsoever at CNN, or are they all whores?

[in_cog_ni_to]

13. It was Wes Clark.

They FEAR him. They work for the repuke party. They are talking heads for the fucking WH! The WH doesn't want Wes Clark to be VP so, any chance they get...they SCREW HIM! :grr: I am so pissed off right now! :nuke:

[Dinger]

27. Kerry shouldpay attention to stuff like this... It could be a . . .

good sign, couldn't it?

[cosmokramer]

42. I think so.

[Dinger]

10. What did they put in place of the segment?

Me and my family went to see Fahrenheit 9/11, and I set the timer for the re-play, saw this thread, and hope against hope that the 1:00a.m. broadcast shows it.


P.S. We HAD to leave before the end (of F 9/11)...Killed me!!!!!Can anybody e-mail or pm me and tell me what happened after the segment where the mom was reading the last letter from her son? I'd be FOREVER GRATEFUL : )

[cosmokramer]

14. I have a link for the appearance...

...and you can watch it here:


http://www.us4clark.com/mediaclips.html

[Dinger]

17. I am having trouble downloading it.

I'm not all that computer literate, but whenever I try to dwonload it, my browser (IE) "unexpectedly quits) Damn!!!!

[graham67]

18. Try this...

Right click on the link and "save target as"

[Dinger]

19. Thanks, but . . .

I have an iBook.

[Donna Zen]

30. Mac trick

Hold down control

Hold down the cursor until a window opens--sometimes you will have to slightly move the cursor

Chose Save target

If IE quits at Ice's site use Netscape

[bitchkitty]

47. Go to

http://mozilla.org - it's free! Same as Netscape, only better!

[cosmokramer]

15. Nothing...it was just entirely SKIPPED!

[Doosh]

12. *sigh*

who cares, don't read too much into these things. This is nit picking at its most obsessive. No CNN does not have any sort of anti clark agenda, they're probably the best out of the piss poor news stations.

[Scoopie]

26. WE care... that's who!

We're sick and fucking tired of it.
Of course, your boy doesn't have this problem. Heck, they'd pop a coronary before they'd take out a segment on the son of a mill worker.
This is blantant and tiring and old and trite.
And, you don't have to care, but we do.
Besides, MSNBC is heads and shoulders above CNN now that a former Clinton Administration staffer is running the joint. If that guy, who's name escapes me, hadn't been there when Ken Olberman tossed out the fact that he had been e-mailed "talking points" by the White House staff, Olberman probably would be pounding the pavement for work right now.

[Webster Green]

28. Please!......they do right-wing propaganda, not news......

Only Fox does right-wing propaganda better.

[madfloridian]

35. CNN is just about even with FOX now.

They are truly awful. A show now and then is rather truthful, then they turn back to the right. They have been changing management a lot lately, and it is causing them to go further right.

[madfloridian]

38. I got chills when Clark said we had to go into Fallujah again.

How many are we killing there, anyway? He said about a month ago we needed to do it quickly, take charge. To take charge of Fallujah, we will have to kill them and level their city to "free them."

We are already doing it.

[Sopianae]

45. I think you misunderstood his point.

He did not advocate leveling the city. Had we gone in with enough troops a month ago, a lot of the casualties could have been AVOIDED.

He believes in the Powell doctrine. If you have to use force you have to use overwhelming force. We just bombed the "insurgents" almost indiscriminately because we didn't have enough troops to go in and take control. Marines were shooting at everything that moved. Look at all the civilian casualties. The situation is just getting worse. Most of that could have been avoided. Yes, going in would have cost lives on both sides but the whole point is that it would have cost LESS LIVES in the long run.

He was not for going in to Fallujah originally but then the administration vowed to go in after the mercenary thing. He thinks it was a major mistake to say we would go in. But he also thinks it was a major mistake NOT to go in AFTER they said they would - which makes a lot of sense: it projects weakness and just escalates the situation.

After hundreds of lives lost (Iraqis and Americans as well) the situation still hasn't been resolved. We are still losing lives every single day.

Wes was against this war from the beginning. But we have to face reality. We won't just pull out of Iraq. That's NOT going to happen. Not even if Kerry is elected. They might end up going in to Fallujah. And if they don't use enough troops - overwhelming force - then it will result in MUCH MORE casualties on BOTH sides.

Wes deeply cares about civilian casualties. He knew the Fallujah solution wouldn't work in the long run. He was right.

P.S. Sorry for my grammar - I speak English as a second language.

[Protected]

44. So if they cut off Edwards' mike or removed his segment...

...you'd be fine with it?

[cosmokramer]

60. Of course they wouldn't be okay with it.

Bias runs deep, and they are forgetting that General Clark was there to represent John Kerry, so Clark being cutoff and edited out was just fine to them. If only 'thinking' were going on here, the world would be good.

[floridaguy]

16. Thanks and my email has been sent

So I asked those bastards at CNN if it was a simple mistake or more evidence of their bias toward General Clark. Everyone should email and possibly call them tomorrow too.

If I were a real scumbag, I would have told them to go fuck themselves!

[cosmokramer]

21. I am ready to tell them that as well.

[Jai4WKC08]

24. I want to see what's in the transcript

Assuming they post it at all.

I went to their "contact us" site and when I saw where it asks for "suggestions" I almost wrote, "I suggest you stick your crappy little netword..." but then I thought better of it.

[Dinger]

22. I'll Do It . . .

What is the correct e-mail address to use?

[Dinger]

25. This is the e-mail I sent . . .

Why did you cut out General Wesley Clark out of the 10p.m. (central time) re-broadcast of CNN Presents, with Anderson Cooper?
What will you do when Karry picks him as VP? What?

[graham67]

20. Crikey!

I'm glad I captured the 8:00 version then :(

[cosmokramer]

29. You can also download at the link I edited to add above, post 1

[graham67]

31. LOL

That's my site. ;)

[cosmokramer]

33. Doh!

hahahahah


:dunce:

[graham67]

34. Love ya!

How could you have known, eh? :loveya:

[cosmokramer]

36. OH dopey me...

:hug:
:silly:

[Jai4WKC08]

32. We ought to inform the Kerry Campaign too

Write to [e-mail]. Cosmo, you got a better address?

They may well have paid for the satellite feed--they've done it before. They should know that CNN is renigging on the deal.

And we might mention that he's not getting the greatest set-up in the Little Rock studio either.

[cosmokramer]

37. I have the contact to schedule the General's appearances...

...but nothing to the PR people for Kerry.

[Jai4WKC08]

43. That might be good enough

The "info" address gets SO many e-mails, I have no confidence it would get to the right people. But those who schedule Clark's appearances would know about who pays for what, what the agreements are, and so forth. Would you send them a note, letting them know what happened and ask if they would look into it?

[cosmokramer]

55. Already did...

...sorry I can't give out the email addy, or I would have ALL of the Clarkies email a complaint.

[Scoopie]

39. Here's what I sent

As a single mother, the 8 p.m. hour is a busy time for me - getting my son ready for bed - but, knowing that this show repeats itself at 11 p.m. EST, I wasn't sweating the fact that I would miss Gen. Wes Clark's comments on the Iraqi war. I read some of his comments posted by bloggers on his website, so I knew that he had appeared opposite Ken Adelman. I was looking forward to the replay.
Imagine my surprise when I watched your show only to discover that you had cut out this segment.
Why?
From the comments I've read, it seems Clark got the better of Adelman - that is before Clark's microphone got cut. It should have been worthy for the replay in its confrontational value alone.
Clark's comments on the Iraqi War are very precious to those of us who have family members in the Middle East. Clark has been consistantly correct about this whole fiasco, coming off as some what of a sage in his predictions.
Since your network seems to provide less and less investigative reporting into all the issues surrounding the Iraqi War, the least you could do for clarity is to replay Clark's comments as many times as needed until the American people learn that the war is no "cakewalk."

(On edit: I sent this via "CNN Present" 's feedback website, so they know to which show I'm referring.)

[cosmokramer]

40. Excellent, Scoop!

[Dinger]

46. Reminds Me Of The Faux With Asman (Assman)

Nov. 17th. I have a copy. The only reason I didn't tape it at 7 (central time) was because Michael moore was on 60 Minutes (a partial re-run).

[Donna Zen]

41. No exit

Adelman brushes aside the need for an exit strategy when asked about it. Maybe they didn't want that repeated. After all when you are building the latest version of the Imperial City to control your 14 new permanent bases, spreading the news to the taxpayers might not be the message you want sent.

There is a very weird portion of that segment. As soon as Adelman begins his attack, as if on cue, the camera closes in on Clark. Waiting. But Clark does play; he remains pleasant and still while listening.

So why did the camera move?

I noticed it before knowing what Adelman's big fat lie was going to be. Anyway, I taped the program and will watch it again to make sure. If so, I think this was a hit job.

[Adelante]

48. Transcript: CNN Presents (Adelman/PNAC) 6/27/04

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0406/27/cp.00.html

[Eurobabe]

49. Adelman = PNAC tool

[ArkDem]

50. Oh, the HUMANITY!!!!!!

[cosmokramer]

51. Excuse me,

were you talking?

[LandOLincoln]

52. Nope, he wasn't talking, he was too busy

pissing.

[ArkDem]

57. You noticed

[Darkamber]

53. I've got to admit that is pretty unbelievable n/t

[cosmokramer]

54. This is the second time CNN has edited out a Clark segment on

a same day rebroadcast. Indeed, something is rotten in the state of...

[Dr Fate]

56. Come on folks- would you ask Coke to advertise for Pepsi?

You cant expect Coke to advertise for Pepsi, and you cant expect CNN to advertise Clark's "product" (the truth)when they worked soooo hard to sell us all of Bush's lies.

[laruemtt]

58. once again - WHEN is Gore's

TV station supposed to be up and running???!?!?

[cosmokramer]

59. We desperately need an outlet that is truly FAIR...

...the RW media is killing me...they are weapons of mass deception.