Unholy alliance developing between Hillary Clinton and conservative Republicans to stop Barack Obama

[madfloridian]

There has been speculation here at this forum, and many have wondered since she got the support of the right wing media moguls like Scaife and Murdoch. Even the media is targeting Obama while making it sound like Hillary has a fair shot for the nomination. She does not.

This writer just comes out and says it.

From the blogs at Telegraph UK

Republicans and Hillary Clinton unite against Barack Obama

There’s an unholy alliance developing between Hillary Clinton and conservative Republicans to stop Barack Obama. Read what Karl Rove has to say about Obama being “pummelled”, “routed” and “clobbered” in Pennsylvania (er..it was a nine-point win), asking “what about the Michigan and Florida delegates?” and branding Obama a “reborn Adlai Stevenson” and a “whiner”. Could have come from the mouth of Harold Ickes or Howard Wolfson.

This part is even worse.

Republicans have joined with Hillary Clinton to attack Obama

Then there’s the North Carolina Republican Party ad featuring Obama and the Rev Jeremiah Wright. It’s supposedly opposing the Democratic candidates for governor and lieutenant-governor. But do you think it might also be designed to help Hillary Clinton just a teesny bit in the North Carolina primary on March 4th? Here’s video of the ad, which featured that old Deep South fear-mongering combination of a black man and a white woman.

He calls out McAuliffe for praising Fox News, the new low of Hillary's campaign. Here's the video of the Fox promo featuring McAuliffe.

After Pennsylvania, Terry McAuliffe, Clinton’s campaign chairman has declared Fox News – loathed by most Democrats and a persistent vilifier of Obama – has gushed: "Fair and balanced, Fox ! You beat 'em all!" Which Fox has duly turned into a promotional ad for itself.

I guess all this just underlines the old adage of “my enemy’s enemy is my friend”. But the fact that the Republican party so desperately wants to help tear down Obama might just give some Democrats a clue as to who the GOP really wants John McCain to face in November.

The anger of many in our party is building toward Hillary. Her advocates go on TV and sound actually arrogant toward the rest of us in the party. They talk down in a way that is condescending.

The worst part is that Hillary's big smile and wide-eyed innocence show not a single sign of embarrassment. She seems not to care that she and her husband are losing respect with their divisiveness.

That is the worst...not even being embarassed.

[NightWatcher]

1. developing???

[speedoo]

5. Yeah, I'd say it's pretty well developed. nt

[maryallen]

55. SNOWBALLING ....

[redqueen]

2. ... and still her supporters believe the lies.

[Hieronymus]

79. They sure do ... no real Democrat would approve of such behavior.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

3. Pure, unadulterated ...

bullshit.

[redqueen]

4. Which part? Please be specific. (nt)

[ChairmanAgnostic]

15. heh, give it time. a LONG time for an answer.

at least one that is factual and truth-based, not truthiness.

[redqueen]

18. Can't hurt to try... but yeah... they rarely respond

with anything but non sequiturs, insults, nonsense, or some other such non-answers.

[haymakeragain]

17. Uhhh, Karl Rove being solidly in Hilly's corner, I'd call that pure,

unadulterated bullshit.

[redqueen]

37. Well of course it is. But he's backing her talking points.

Why would he do that?

[Barack_America]

56. For 2008, he is. While they have the common goal of destroying Obama, he is.

What do you think of the company Hillary has been keeping lately?

[NorthCarolina]

77. Well, he'll help Hillary bloody up Obama though...that's pretty obvious

because it is no secret that Republicans are afraid to run against Obama and risk the huge coattails he is likely to have. The last thing Republicans want is to become inconsequential in Congress. At least with Hillary they know they can beat her because her negatives are actually higher than her positives, and she wont have the ability to bring new Dems to congress to the degree that Obama could, if at all. If the Repubs once again utilize the power of their "Diebold Ace In The Hole", the media can easily dispute cry's of foul play by simply pointing to Hillary's high negatives as a reason for a Republican win.

[redqueen]

6. Oops... and K&R

:kick:

[Scurrilous]

7. K & R

:thumbsup:

[papau]

8. Get real - the WSJ ran an article today that Obama was a lock for nomination - they want

Obama as he is guaranteed to turn the under 50000 whites - the "common man" into Reagan Democrats.

And if they are wrong they still win given the con job on social programs - on health they are now saying they will not submit a bill to congress - they would encourage Congress to hold hearings on universal health.

The right wins with Obama either way - win or lose in November

[marshall]

61. Is that the group that Hillary said "Screw 'em" about?

If so, I can see why they'd run to Obama.

[polichick]

9. This alliance exemplifies the old politics that Obama's been talking about...

How any informed Democrat could still support her is the great mystery.

[lapfog_1]

10. Hillary supporters (and campaign staff)

are under the delusion that they can do ANYTHING (including making alliances with Faux Snooze and the likes of Rush, Hannity, Scaife and the rest) to destroy Obama and then, when Hillary is the "nominee", the rest of the Democrats and progressives will vote for her because we have no other choice.

That ain't gonna happen. Hillary is NOT a Democrat, even if she is the party's nominee for President. And I (and many many like me) am only going to vote for a Democrat.

If she and Bill hadn't resorted to these tactics (starting with placing McCain ahead of Obama as "ready to lead") and continuing right up to today... I was prepared to vote for her if she won. But not now. Not ever.

[sunnystarr]

51. Amen !! (nt)

[flpoljunkie]

11. If the Clintons had any sense of shame, they would have left politics long ago.

The way they have conducted her campaign is despicable. They are willing to win at all costs--willing to take down the party in Hillary's increasingly impossible quest to wrest the nomination from Barack Obama.

I have lost all respect for them. And, when James Clyburn, an exceedingly temperate man, feels he has to speak up, it is a very telling sign of the destruction the Clintons have brought to our party.

[tularetom]

12. Well when you lie down with dogs

If it weren't for the fact that it would assure a McGrumpy win, I'd almost like to see hillary get the nomination just to watch her new BFF's at fixed noise, Scaife, et al grind her down into a reeking sobbing pile of steaming crap in a baby shit yellow pants suit.

Does she actually believe these people won't turn on her once she becomes the nominee? If so, she is way too fuckin stupid to become president.

[redqueen]

14. I've had that same thought. I wouldn't mind if she was handed the nom.

So she could lose and Obama could come back in 2012 a la Regan in 1980.

[uponit7771]

13. Terry McStupif was on Hannity agreeing with almost EVERY FREAKIN word

[RiverStone]

16. This has been obvious for months...

Have you heard that racist pig Pat Buchanan (MSNBC) swooning over Hillary on a daily basis? What I don't get is why Rachel Maddow does not call him on it.

The GOP knows Obama is a wild card who could pull many voters from the ranks of the rethugs. Hillary is a known entity who they desperately want to run against.

The problem is, too much of America swallows the bait and switch - they are not paying attention like we do on DU.:hi:

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

20. Why would we let the Rethugs set us up with Hillary? We're a lot smarter than that, aren't we?

[redqueen]

28. Well...

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

19. As they say, birds of a feather . . .

[redqueen]

21. Kick for seeing the obvious.

[madfloridian]

22. CNN today was blatantly pushing for FL and MI delegates.

They are working for Hillary's benefit.

[redqueen]

24. It's as plain as day.

I honestly don't know how her supporters manage to ignore it at this point.

[blm]

25. House of Saud is major shareholder of AOL/TimeWarner/CNN. They trust only Bushes and Clintons

to look out for their interests.

[redqueen]

29. We all know how chummy the Bushes & the House of Saud are...

are there ties between the Clintons & the Saudi royal family as well?

[bunnies]

23. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Clearly Obama is Clintons enemy. It couldnt be more obvious.

[Barack_America]

57. Yep. That just about says it right there. n/t

[bobthedrummer]

26. Repost of "Know Your DLC: Mark Penn"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5515506

and "Inconvenient truths about the New Democrats, the Third Way, Democratic Leadership Council, etc"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2973191

As far as I'm concerned they (DLCers) have always worked the same RW street, from different sides, but the same dirty street.

[redqueen]

27. Yup...

[ScarletSniper]

53. I missed your original post, but excellent it is..thanks for sharing..I've saved links to fav places

to share with others...

[bobthedrummer]

67. Just read your profile, welcome to DU, ScarletSniper! eom.

[crankychatter]

30. What if.... what if she really does it...?

What if she stretches it out to Convention?

What if she doesn't get the nomination?

What if she declares the Democratic Party undemocratic and takes her minions over to the Dark Side?

I mean it... what IF?

Obama is doing the massive Voter registration which I've been advocating for weeks....

THIS will counter THAT scenario...

but, what if that's her true goal... eh?

McCain/Clinton might not be such an exaggeration... she wants to bomb Iran... she might one up Lieberman

I'm serious... I know... kinda crazy... but it's like the Iraq Invasion... WHAT is the real motive? We all played that game.

[PatGund]

32. There would be one funny thing to that...

The right wing has been using the Clinton, (or as they spell it "Klinton") family to fearmonger and rile their base for almost two decades now. It would be hysterically funny to see how they would try to convince their base that "Satan Incarnate" has seen the light and is now a good guy/gal.

[crankychatter]

34. agreed but the foxhounds flip-flop on command... look at Bush's crazy act

I know that's crazy.... because I know Republicans

but... Clinton's being extolled by Rove, embraced by Scaiffe and Murdoch

these guys can piss on their listeners and readers, tell them it's raining and the next day... they're all chanting it, like Children of the Corn.

Not necessarily THAT scenario... but a similar one is the only thing that makes sense to me.

It's a machiavellian wet dream... to keep us tangled up and distracted

You know it's been predicted by diverse pundits and analysts that we may be bombing Iran before this nomination process is through?

What then? Who benefits then?

These people want to expand the conflagration in the middle east... they have unlimited resources and WILL

they bet the farm on it...

I think damn near anything is possible right now

[bbgrunt]

71. well we certainly ARE distracted. Looks like

not only are they distracting us from what is being done behind the scenes, but they are also furthering the goal of making a sham of democracy by disgusting voters into submission. Honestly, it is hard to care any more--especially if she manages to keep this up until the convention.......and the talking pubic hares are lovin' every minute of it.

[Az_lefty]

31. heard Michael Savage shilling for Hillary yesterday evening...

almost wrecked my car!

[redqueen]

33. After the Scaife love-talk & eventual formal endorsement...

nothing can shock me now.

[crankychatter]

36. isn't he the guy that wants to put muslims in concentration camps?

It's too bad more democrats don't listen to these wack jobs

they'd be RUNNING TO OBAMA...

[Emit]

41. OMG, Michael Savage shilling for Hillary !?

You've got to be shit'n us?

[anigbrowl]

46. Maybe Hill can make Rockstar the official energy drink of her campaign

Coulter, Limbaugh, Savage...

[cliffordu]

35. Sure seems that way.

[Warren DeMontague]

38. That's the elephant in the room, so to speak. nt

[madfloridian]

39. Dean has nothing to lose standing up for the rules. It was all done to him in 04

I am getting a post ready when I get out of my 3 post limit.

A couple of interviews with him at the DNC.

I appreciate so much that he is the chairman right now.

[redqueen]

40. You and me both.

Thank God it's not a DLCer.

[invictus]

42. K & R

[Zuper Man]

43. I don't think so. Murdoch's newspaper endorsed Obama

And Drudge rarely posts anything negative against Obama. The right-wing in general has been much harsher on Clinton than Obama.

[Cha]

45. NO that's just not true...

So what about "drudge" or The Post? That doesn't mean we disregard the facts on the m$$$fm shilling for hilary and PASTORBATING ON WRIGHT.

[blm]

54. Dog and pony show - The Post proceeded to TRASH Obama in that 'endorsement' because

it was the most completely insincere endorsement ever written.

Any fool could have seen through that ruse.

[Barack_America]

58. Murdoch donated money to Hillary's campaign...

Clinton leaks stories to Drudge.

Don't suggest the Clintons don't have strong relationships with these peoples.

[mmonk]

44. The establishment versus the one that wasn't supposed to be.

The establishment will circle the wagons. My suspicions have been greatly enhanced this election cycle.

[crankychatter]

47. It's beyond alliance... I think it's an affiliation - The beneficiaries of War

sharing the work load

[NJmaverick]

48. That alone should disqualify her for the nomination

[TragedyandHope]

49. No doubt about it

"We will f**k him. Do you hear me? We will f**k him. We will ruin him. Like no one has ever f**ked him."

- Karl Rove

[BootinUp]

50. It must be Hillary's fault that Obama has a big bullseye

on his butt.

[Guaranteed]

70. Oh, shut up. nt

[ScarletSniper]

52. Scummy the whole lot ot them..just darn right dirty and scummy!

[stillcool]

59. there sure is...

hard to tell the difference.

[Citizen Kang]

60. Why are there no Hillary supporters on this thread?

Do they know the truth and are unable to defend it or her slimy campaign?

[smiley_glad_hands]

63. They have everyone on ignore. eom

[madfloridian]

65. I'm on everyone's ignore list but yours.

Hope I am not on yours yet. :evilgrin:

[smiley_glad_hands]

80. Nope, just keep calling it like you see it. eom

[Laughing Mirror]

62. The same world domination power cult she prays with in those secretive prayer cells in Arlington

They call themselves "The Family." Of course, she and they are in an unholy alliance.

[smiley_glad_hands]

64. Thankyou. K&R eom

[roseBudd]

66. Hillary's expressions remind me of a cheerleader at a pep rally

[Life Long Dem]

68. You hear the "wait until the GE" where Obama will get it by the repubs.

But we are already seeing this. That's why I call it a bunch of shit when they say oh, you think this is bad.

They hammered Dean on the scream speech. But the disadvantage over that was that this happened before New Hampshire at the very beginning of the campaign - nobody reall knew who he was. And with Kerry the swiftboat attack happened the month or two before Novembers election where he didn't have the needed time to fight it efficiently.

So I think Obama is in a much better position than Dean and Kerry were in. Also more people are onto MSM than 4 years ago. Just look at 2006. Look at the PA turnout. In 2004's primary there was 800,000 voters turning out in PA. Compare that to over 2 million in PA last Tuesday.

[Frisbee]

78. Actually..

"And with Kerry the swiftboat attack happened the month or two before Novembers election where he didn't have the needed time to fight it efficiently."

Kerry made a conscious decision NOT to fight the swiftboaters attacks, and to save the money for later in the campaign, a decision he has since said was the biggest mistake he made during the campaign and that he should have spent whatever it cost to discredit them. The old hindsight is 20/20 thing. But I do agree with the point of your post.

[Guaranteed]

69. It's now officially extremely important that Obama get the nomination. nt

[H2O Man]

72. Nominated for Truth.

Thank you.

[VotesForWomen]

73. ah, the Bizarro World of Obamists; yeah, the media is favoring clinton... right. nt

[anonymous171]

74. Turn on the TV. They've switched targets.

[spoony]

75. Yes, and another unholy alliance that dredges up old RW smear material

to slam the Clintons. Just do a search here about Whitewater, Vince Foster, "clenis," lying under oath, etc.

It should tell people something when they find themselves so entrenched in intra-party warfare that the ammo they're using is from the RW, and that goes for both sides here.

[AntiFascist]

76. K&R # 60...

Hillary seems to feel no shame in aligning with right-wing Republicans. Her strategy is to first marginalize the liberal left, making it seem like a distant fringe left associated with Move On, who she demonizes, and Michael Moore, who the Republican right-wing demonizes. Associating Obama with violent or anti-American radicals is the first step in further marginalizing the left-wing and associating it with terrorism, which is the strategy of whacko right-wingers like Rush Limbaugh and Pat Robertson.

We can simply counter this by stressing the uplifting, unifying nature of Obama's liberalism and the overriding need to make change for the better. Keep in mind that it is only the domestic terrorism oriented, radical neocon right-wing that wants to bring destruction to our nation. These are the ones who Hillary's campaign is beginning to appeal.

[madfloridian]

81. And meanwhile Bill Clinton saying to attack Obama more.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2036

"Dubbed the "Billification" of Sen. Clinton's campaign by some insiders, Mr. Clinton has become something of a strategist-in-chief in recent weeks. He has been pushing for harder and sharper attacks on Sen. Obama. While she has jabbed her opponent over his "elitist" tone and controversial statements by his former pastor, Mr. Clinton delivers his own slams on the stump, calling Obama ads misleading. Mr. Clinton has placed several of his own aides at headquarters, including his former lawyer and a bevy of strategists. Known as a bad loser, Mr. Clinton privately buttresses his wife's drive to push on, telling her, according to aides: "We're not quitters."

On his own daily message calls, advisers say, he implores: "We've got to take him on every time." At the Clintons' Washington, D.C., home recently, these people say, he reviewed possible TV spots and told ad makers to be more hard-hitting, faster and harsher."

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

82. ROFLMAO!!!! Oh My God This Is So Blatantly Stupid. Was This Meant As Comic Relief Or To Be Serious?

Man there's some stupid stuff floatin around right now. Good for a few laughs though!

:rofl: