I wonder if she regrets running such a negative campaign.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

She could only elevate herself by debasing him. She even elevated the opposition candidate over him.

Plagerist. Golden tongued fraud. Un-vetted . Elitist. Unfit to be Commander in Chief

Her surrogates and Bill were even worse.

When you have time to look back and reflect, it's even worse than you thought it was when it was happening.

Personally, I find it refreshing and encouraging that it didn't work.

[Exilednight]

1. She might once she sees that SNL skit. n/t

[FrenchieCat]

2. Thank God it didn't work! We'd be a much lesser country if it had.....

[Catherina]

17. That's how I feel. I'm grateful to my country not angry n/t

[roseBudd]

45. People are tired off the same old, same old, it has not worked and HRC's battle cry as in

only she can battle the GOP did not come off as a way forward. We already have gridlock. We don't have time for more.

[sellitman]

3. More flame bait.

You bring shame to our side. No need to tear Hillary down.

Celebrate Obama and move on.


:argh:

[Arugula Latte]

5. I think post-mortems on campaigns are perfectly legit.

Hillary did use these smears; the OP didn't make them up.

[sellitman]

33. What you are doing is just as divisive to the party as what Hillary did.

This isn't time for a Democratic "postmortem" .

We need to be writing McCains"postmortem"

[KansasVoter]

40. Wrong.....Once she quits we can start that!

[sellitman]

41. Fine, you go after her.

I think my time wil be spent attacking McCain.

Meanwhile here is a picture of you and those who need to tear Hillary down.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

10. I am asking the question entirely seriously.

She was a great candidate with many strengths, but her campaign did not reflect that. Post mortems will be conducted by many.

[sellitman]

34. See post 33

:banghead:

[Divernan]

11. There is every need to tear HRC down - so that no Dem pulls that kind of shit in a primary again.

Make no mistake about it - HRC brought shame to political campaigning - which is pretty hard to do.

[sellitman]

35. See post 33

:banghead:

[MH1]

36. IF you are correct, then let's not start that til after the GE, ok?

Yes people need to analyze what worked, what didn't, and why; and yes we'd like to put a knife in the heart of divisive primary campaigning; but let's win the GE first. Things may look a little different with the perspective of time, too, especially depending how the Clintons behave from this point forward.

[roseBudd]

46. She thought she could pull a reagan in the debate with "change you can xerox" only she didn't have

the chops to deliver the line. Nor the right audience. What works for the GOP does not work for Dems. We think, we analyze, we know BS when we hear it, so bumper sticker slogans don't cut it.

[Darth_Kitten]

4. The Obamabots can teach us all about civility and decency......

what's a plagerist by the way?

[dionysus]

14. i can tell you what a bitter edwards supporter looks like...

:rofl:

[lligrd]

6. She Still Doesn't Regret Her IWR Vote

Hillary has no shame!

[rwheeler31]

7. I hope she regrets it, what the pudents will say is she made him

stronger it's all bs.

[MojoMojoMojo]

8. Obama has been negative for a year.Clintons are racist?That is a slander .

Wake up already.You are part of the problem if you believe that negative Obama bullshit.

[Catherina]

20. Sad. You live in another America. Please catch up n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

42. No, Mojo is absolutely right

The repeated attempts by the Obama campaign to portray the Clintons as racist is the dirtiest thing that's happened in this campaign. It's also poisoning and splitting the party. That's going to be the big story of this campaign when all is said and done - how race was used to destroy the Clintons and give Obama an advantage.

[roseBudd]

47. Name one mistake that the HRC campaign made, surely you don't consider her failure to win the most

pledged delegates to be purely Obama's fault?

[MonkeyFunk]

48. Why blame anyone?

We have two strong candidates who have run good campaigns. I don't understand the need to portray one as some sort of catastrophic failure. They're roughly tied, they're about equally popular.

Do people attack Edwards for running a horrible campaign? Dodd? Biden? By your measure, not winning means you fucked up badly - so they must've fucked up REALLY badly.

I just don't look at it that way.

[Amimnoch]

63. *cheers!* My sentiments exactly!

[roseBudd]

64. Admit that she is where she is, not the presumptive nominee, because she made huge mistakes

AND NO THEY ARE NOT ROUGHLY TIED, NOR ARE THEY ABOUT EQUALLY POPULAR

Obama is viewed as honest, by a majority Hillary is not

[MonkeyFunk]

65. Sorry

they ARE roughly tied. He's a little ahead in delegates. She's probably ahead in votes from registered Democrats. They're close in total popular vote.

[roguevalley]

51. one mistake of many: not having a plan after super tuesday because

you thought you had it already. mark penn. there's two.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

43. here's a straw. THe better to snort your koolaid with.

OBAMA has been negative? LOL.

What is today, opposite day? Either you are a liar, a HillarianBot, or delusional. If it were the latter, there are many new and improved psychiatric drugs that may help. If it is either of the other two, tis not worth the time or effort.

[roguevalley]

49. its 2008. catch up

[The Night Owl]

9. Barack Obama is not unvetted, but he is a lot less vetted than Hillary Clinton. {EOM}

[enid602]

12. guess

I gues she most be one of those 'typical' white folks the Great One tells us about.

[MrSlayer]

13. Probably not. More likely that she regrets her strategy.

She had no choice but to go super negative because of her ludicrous strategy that neglected the smaller and caucus states. If she tried to compete everywhere she may have had this thing all locked up two months ago.

[greenvpi]

15. You're making the ridiculous assumption that she did.

What is your evidence? Do you have any besides your hate?

[sfam]

21. You're right! It's an international conspiracy. Everyone's in on it but Hill suppporters...

We're all just making the "Hillary is running a negative campaign" thing up. Scottland, France, Japan, the US MSM, Obama supporters, Canada - everyone.

We all know that in reality, Hillary has stayed above the fray and has never taken the low road. But we were trying to test a new method of collaboration - one which involves 70% of the world discussing something in secret without the other 30% finding out. We call it..."Hillaryis44 Delusion"

Pssst...It works!

[roguevalley]

52. read the papers. check the sties. its all out there and just because

you don't do that doesn't make your rant anything more then sputtering. by the way, nice post total.

[ccharles000]

16. I think she is great and has run a good campaign.

[Skittles]

23. she's a politican

too many DUers fail to see that

[babylonsister]

18. I think she got bad advice. But her desire to win was so overpowering

that she threw caution to the wind and just blew it; she praised McCain, pandered, threw the kitchen sink out there, and nothing worked.
It's pretty sad for her, and it helped Obama.

Now, even if anything was valid that she could dig up about Obama, it'd be suspect. She is done.

[roguevalley]

55. ego, babylonsister. I think she failed on ego. she listened to the

newsmen and everyone on the inevitability thing and believed it. hence, no plan past super tuesday. she hung herself on her own ego. and the tirading now? Her shocked disbelief that she isn't going to win. EVERYONE TOLD ME I WOULD WIN! HOW CAN THIS BE!?! ego kills them all in the end.

[Hoof Hearted]

19. I wonder if he'll regret belittling gun owners and the "typical white person."

Sophistry - Eventually it bites you in ya own ass.

[cliffordu]

24. Spurious. Fail.

[Hoof Hearted]

25. vacuous - fail.

[rwheeler31]

22. Will we ever put a stop on this negative campaign crap?

[WillyToad]

26. Most of the 'negativity' was in fact hypersensitivity by Obama supporters

who blow everything miles out of proportion.

[roguevalley]

57. so, race cards don't bother you.

[Raine]

27. I would guess that her only regret is

that it didn't work.

[Seabiscuit]

28. Another lying, hypocritical Obamanoid.

Seriously, how do you people look at yourselves in the mirror?

Never mind... you'll be on "ignore" in a flash.

[Ice-9]

29. Article today . . .

I think it was in the New York Times. It cited unidentified aides to Senator Clinton who claimed that she regretted making the comment about her white support last week.

I suspect there are a lot of things she would do differently if she had the chance. She ran a campaign that might have worked very well in 2000 or 2004 but that was ill-suited to this election. I think there are a lot of people who are waking up from the nightmare of the last eight years and realizing that politicians who really didn't know what they were doing were able to rise to power by exploiting voters' visceral reactions to things like abortion, gay marriage, TERRA!!!11, etc. The voters have seen how that shit works out in the end. And so now they're much more suspicious of interest-group pandering, red meat, and rally-the-troops politics, even if it comes from their own party. Unfortunately, that's the kind of politics that Senator Clinton (and President Clinton too) excel at. Senator Clinton really just ran at the wrong time.

[Warren DeMontague]

30. She had REALLY bad advice.

Starting with whoever told her that a phony air of "inevitability" was the quickest way to put the thing in the bag.

[VotesForWomen]

31. put down the koolaid and your copy of the Clinton Chronicals and you might see things more clearly.

[Perry Logan]

32. Logan's Law: anti-Clinton posts are aways based on false premises.

[roguevalley]

59. what?

[lojasmo]

37. Considering that she continues to do so....

I think not.

[Evergreen Emerald]

38. she is running no more a negative campaign than he is.

The difference is that her behavior is broadcast 24/7 distorted and made up out of whole cloth, while his is hidden, ignored, minimized, and when all else fails: blame Clinton (she deserved it, after all).

[dansolo]

39. She called this the "fun" part of the campaign

She has no regrets whatsoever.

[Andy823]

50. Yep, the fun part

Tearing down a fellow democrat, and giving the republicans all kinds of things to use against Obama in the GE, what fun! :sarcasm:

[roseBudd]

44. I personally feel that we have discovered that negative campaigning is lethal to female candidates..

or that negative campaigning does not work against charismatic likeable candidates.

I think it is gender though. She came off as nagging. Either that or she just doesn't have the chops to deliver the lines that fell so flat for her. Skies open up just made me cringe. Change you can xerox was just silly.

[BlooInBloo]

53. She only regrets that it didn't work.

[tabasco]

54. She even had her daughter go out and lie for her.

Nice parenting, Hill and Bill.

[DemGa]

56. C'mon, the Obama campaign did nothing but attack Clinton's integrity

and honesty since day one. What's disgusting is that it DID work.

And please, spare the rationalizations: it was a smear campaign, plain and simple. Celebrate it - you own it.

[chascarrillo]

61. Pity party for DemGa tonight!

Everyone's invited!

[NJmaverick]

58. Not yet, but she will

[karynnj]

60. Beautifully said

Had she continued to run a positive campaign after Iowa, she might have won. From many accounts, Ted Kennedy was pulled in because of those nasty attacks and possibly by the ugliness that they unleashed in Massachusetts against his fellow Senator after he endorsed Obama. I haven't analyzed the polls of the SuperTuesday states - but it is possible that the Ted and Caroline Kennedy endorsements added to John Kerry's pulled her margins down enough to give her no more delegates out of SuperTuesday than he got. (Going from a 37% gap to 15% in MA cost a LOT in delegates - the same in NJ.) The other factor was the natiness in Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina itself. It takes A LOT to move her from being over 20 points ahead nationally to near even.

These endorsements would have done little if Obama did not seem he was worthy of them. They also helped as they gave Obama what he didn't have - a high powered surrogate with the status and credibility to label Clinton's comments on Iraq, as "abusing the truth" and to be a voice against the Clinton allies' suit in Nevada. Now, I am not saying that Kerry was equivalent to Bill Clinton in terms of media exposure or star power, but among Democrats, he has a reputation for honesty and integrity that neither Clinton have. When he endorsed Obama, he did it praising HRC and Edwards - had the Clintons not descended into the mud, I doubt their credibility would have been challenged by Obama or any surrogate - certainly not Kerry.

[rucky]

62. She's had plenty of opportunities to change course.

It's the voters fault, as far as she's concerned.