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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 10:30 PM
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Bush's Harvard prof says he was 'shallow' and 'flippant'
Edited on Wed Aug-04-04 01:59 PM by Skinner
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=503181

Yoshihiro Tsurumi, an avowed opponent of Bush’s current views and policies who was a visiting associate professor of international business at HBS between 1972 and 1976, said Bush was among 85 students he taught one year in a required first-year course. In the class on “Environment Analysis for Management,” incorporating elements of macroeconomics, industrial policy and international business, Tsurumi said students discussed and debated case studies for 90 minutes several times a week.

Tsurumi—now a professor of international business at Baruch College in the City University of New York—said he remembers the future president as scoring in the bottom 10 percent of students in the class.

Thirty years after teaching the class, Tsurumi said the twenty-something Bush’s statements and behavior—“always very shallow”—still stand out in his mind.

“Whenever just bumped into me, he had some flippant statement to make,” said Tsurumi when reached at his home in Scarsdale, N.Y. “The comments he made were revealing of his prejudice.”

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 10:34 PM
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1. Yep, this is the George Bush we all know and hate.
Funny how bits and pieces of the "unauthorized" biography of GWB just fit his character to a T. He sounds like the original Freeper.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 10:38 PM
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2. that's my *
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kclown Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 10:41 PM
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3. Please change that "bottom 10 percent"
to "top 90 percent".  
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Damn Hippie Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:22 AM
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10. Why? EOM
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T Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 10:42 PM
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4. This is what DUer's should send out in reply to winger emails we get
You know, the anti-Teresa emails that are going around, the hate Hillary emails that go around, there is a new one going around talking about Teddy Kennedy and Chappaquidick again, and how Teddy is full-tilt for Kerry.

Just 'reply all' to those emails with the info in this post and link. Watch their heads explode.

Thanks quaoar !!
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 10:53 PM
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5. what a laugh
Bush criticizing people for being lazy.


Cher


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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 06:51 AM
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9. And people like Bush can continue to make these statements
as long as they have the network to save their own lazy asses.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 10:57 PM
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6. "may God help your customers and employees"
Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 10:57 PM by bloom
"All Harvard Business School students want to become president of a company one day," Tsurumi said. "I remember saying, if you become president of a company some day, may God help your customers and employees."
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:02 PM
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7. He sure had him pegged,
and to top it off, he hasn't changed a bit.
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fishface Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 05:40 AM
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8. Let's kick this..
cause it's so sweet an exposure of the village idiot 'D' student.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:30 AM
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11. This sounds like the same Prof interviewed on Majority Report
If it is the same, when he was asked how he remembered Bush after so many years, he asserted that he remembers the best and the worst. And Bush was one of his worst students.
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lunarboy13 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:43 AM
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13. As for dumbya's undergraduate work at Yale....
While I was a New Mexico State graduate student in 2000 (anthropology-archaeology) a few of my anthro professors were telling us this story about an intro anthropology class at Yale. The regular professor was on sabatical and was replaced for that semester with the famous Margaret Mead. Margaret Mead ran the class as more of a seminar -- constant group discussions, no tests or homework. When the semester was over, Margaret gave each student an A. That 'A', was the only 'A' on the full transcript of George W. Bush.

Now, this was going around the anthro department like wildfire during the 2000 election. I don't know how true it is, but thought you'd like to hear it.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:49 AM
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14. How many people would kill to sit in a seminar with Mead?
And how much do you want to bet that W got nothing out of it.

A shame.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 11:02 AM
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18. me!!!
as i was reading lunarboy's posting, i was imagining what it would have been like to be in that class. what a daydream!
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lunarboy13 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:14 PM
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19. Me too...
I would have loved to sit in on a seminar with Margaret Mead...I bet dumbya still doesn't know who she is.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:55 AM
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15. There you are! Finally caught you...
:hi:

:loveya:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 11:01 AM
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17. My major was Anthro - so that really hit home!
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 06:01 PM
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23. He was probably also memorable because
he was the son of a US senator and bragged about it. That would stand out in my mind, too.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:40 AM
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12. Unfortunately, this will play well with his supporters
Many are very anti-intellectual. They revel in the fact that George got though Yale and then HBS with very little effort or even a tip of his hat to intellectual discourse. Also, this story will show them that he was a true-blue conservative when he was very young.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:55 AM
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16. Here's an AAR radio interview with the prof., very enlightening
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:47 PM
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20. quaoar
Per DU copyright rules
please post only four
paragraphs from the
copyrighted news source.

Thank you

DU Moderator
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dryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 02:09 PM
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21. What I want to know is....
was 43 a legacy admission into Yale and Harvard? If his grades in high school were as low as everyone says (including himself) how did he get admitted in the first place?
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 04:35 PM
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22. He was a joke at ANDOVER too!
Remember FReepers that are lurkin'.....Georgie boy went to Phillipa-Andover, one of the best prep schools in New England. A former co-workers daughter graduated from Andover last year and boy do they hate hime there.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 07:47 PM
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24. I posted this months ago... good to see it resurface...
Once a nut always a nut, eh georgie porgie? :evilgrin:
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