No More CNN For Me- I'm Watching MSNBC And They Play It Straight...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

I have watched CNN since it's inception and decided to give it up after they flogged their flawed Gallup Poll to make Kerry look like a loser....


It doesn't take the proverbial rocket scientist to know that campaigns and media outlets use polls to shape the race.


By portraying Kerry as a loser CNN hopes to discourage his contributors and supporters.....


Any way... MSNBC seems to give fair down the middle coverage to both campaigns....

Let's encourage them to keep up the good work...

[AmerDem]

1. correction... they DON'T play it straight

but they are a lil more balanced then CNN but not by alot. Just watch Tweety sometime. Heck, I take it you didn't watch Tweety's coverage of the convention, huh?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. Tweety Is Conflicted....

CNN is insidious... Most of their commentators are on the left but their news anchors are on the right.....


So you are getting your news with a right wing bias that you don't even notice....

[Eloriel]

41. Just a shave better than CNN, and even that is sporadic

I wouldnt' get all hepped up over them. It's true that when I watch cable, that's what I watch. But they are by NO means a "good" source. Just a little better than the rest of what's on, and that's not saying much. At all.

[apnu]

2. MSNBC????

The Tweety network? Did you watch their coverage of the DNC? it was only a few shades less worse than CNN. Oddly enough, I thought Fox did a better job than the two of them for actual coverage. But then, I expected spinning Satan graphics from Fox when Kerry came out and that didn't happen so maybe I set the bar too high for Fox.

I'm not watching any of them or the "big three"

I'm relying on the LBN thread here and the GD:2004 rooms for most of my data. As for non-DU sources, I'll be relying on the candidates sites and PR's.

I'll make my own decision (which is for Kerry, but that's not the point), I don't need some network whose beholden to the all might dollar to tell me how I should think and feel about the world around me. I can do all that on my own.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. MSNBC Is More Balanced Than CNN

NT

[Scottie72]

24. The best DNC coverage was

CSPAN! I did not even try to stomach the networks. :puke:

I got to see everything without wny bullcrap commentary.

[NoBorders]

5. I sent them my 'goodbye' letter yesterday -eom

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. I'll Miss Crossfire And That's It....

but after they clobbered Kerry with that poll it's over for me....


If I want to watch a conservative network I'll watch Fox...


CNN is Fox in drag.... Call it the Ru Paul Conservative Network....

[LittleApple81]

7. The Ru Paul Conservative Network! BWAHAHAHA. Thanks!

[LimpingLib]

22. What? Not FOX or any other network. Ron Paul???

Fox wants o do nother but talk about "security" and all the Anti-Everything American war opponents vs. Mr Red White and Blue (themselves)and the big "terror threat" "issue" 24/7 .

I advide you to read Ron Pauls LONG writtings on the war and terror.

Tell me one network that quoted Michael Ladeens comment that "religon is impotant for our nation so when the citizen becomes a troop we can expect him to not be afraid to die in our wars " (paraphraised)comment.

Heck, Ron Paul makes a better reporter than most (or all of them). When all the networks treated Clintons and Bush's lead up to wars on the Iraqi people as a coming attraction ("Clash In The Gulf" "Rumble In The Deset" etc.)Ron Paul was out covering all the facts that we are just hurting the people and not Saddam plus reporting on our past dealings not to mention talking about creating terrorists.

[NoBorders]

15. what about Aaron Brown?

I don't watch tv that much, but Aaron Brown seemed decent enough, and he's the only one I'd consider watching on CNN. But I haven't seen that much of him so I can't say if he's consistently not RW.

[Cha]

35. I hope you sent them a "goodbye letter", too! I sent them one

in Nov.,2002 right after the elections..I sent all them one.

[redstateblues]

37. When I Said Goodbye I Told Them"Most Trusted Name In News"

was no longer true for me. Also deleted from my favorites list. Buh Bye

[Lugnut]

44. I will as well

I can live without NoFacts, though. He makes my skin crawl. I'll miss Paul and James....period.

[LittleApple81]

8. You MUST select: MSNBC Countdown with Olbermann is a must.

He is the only courageous person who said, on air, that the White house had sent him 3 pages of Talking Points to crush Ambassador Wilson when Wilson appeared on his program.
He has done several things like this. He hates Fox, O'Reilly, and Hannity (this alone makes me love him).
He was the ONLY ONE WHO COVERED BERGER'S being found guilty of taking COPIES of documents and NOTHING criminal and that the commission HAD GOTTEN ALL the original of the documents... and said DeLay WAS NOT APOLOGIZING for calling Berger a burglar...
His program is a mixture of the political and the bizarre... but he is the best at MSNBC.

[NoBorders]

16. Yep, he's pretty cool

maybe even on our side? Seems to be.

[redstateblues]

38. I will admit he has been the only ray of hope there

[Killarney]

50. everyone one of us should watch Keith Olbermann

every night! he's the good guy!

[DaveFL99]

9. MSNBC, Don't they have

Joe "where'd that body come from" Scarborogh ?

[Zynx]

29. Did Scarborogh kill somebody? I heard something about that before.

[Capn Sunshine]

42. a dead intern was found under his desk

Back in July 2001, in the middle of the summer of Chandra frenzy, a young intern by the name of Lori Klausutis was found dead in the Florida office of Joe Scarborough Initial reports said that there was no signs of trauma to the body. Several weeks later, the autopsy report was finally released:

The official medical examiner, Dr. Michael Berkland, then conducted an extensive autopsy - more than 80 hours - before announcing his findings last week.

Berkland said Klausutis died from a blow to the head, probably caused when she fainted and fell to the floor after an attack of a previously undiagnosed "valvular condition of the heart." Klausutis, an avid runner and member of the Northwest Florida Track Club, had never evinced heart problems before - but such things happen, Berkland said. He also admitted that authorities had previously lied about her fatal wound in order to forestall media inquiries into the case. "The last thing we wanted was 40 questions about a head injury," he told the Northwest Florida Daily News.

Berkland moved to Florida after his medical license was revoked in Missouri following a 1998 case in which he was found to have falsified information in an autopsy report, American Political Journal reported.


It's all quite sketchy. A medical examiner with a recent history of falsifying information on autopsies comes up with a far fetched explanation that even Lori's own family doesn't buy. And isn't it odd that at the same time the "liberal" media was in a frenzy over a Democratic Congressman's possibly connection to a missing intern (at the time), not a peep was made about the Republican Congressman who had a dead intern turn up in his office? It just doesn't add up. It's time for Joe Scarborough to come clean and tell Lori's family what REALLY happened.

http://www.bluebus.org/archives/000258.php

[cprise]

10. A softer shade of fascism

For the moment at least.

Remember tht Microsoft put Slate up for sale about a week after the latter recommended Mozilla's Firefox browser over MS Internet Explorer.

MSNBC has long been an example of hard-Right slant here on DU and elsewhere.

[redstateblues]

39. Softer Shade Of Fascism- Brilliant Slogan!!

[mzmolly]

11. I agree. All the media is biased towards Bush, but some make an effort

not to be. MSNBC at least makes an effort.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. MSNBC Tries To Be Fair...

NT

[featherman]

13. Selecting individual programs is why God made remotes

I will watch Olberman anytime. I will watch Hardball some of the time, depending on guests and topic. I will watch Anderson Cooper on 360 some of the time. I can usually watch Aaron Brown late, generally without bursting a blood vessel.
I will not watch any Fox or Scarborough, Judy, Wolf, Candy, Larry King, the idiot legal show on MSRNC, etc.. ( Larry King is unwatchable not because of bad politics just that smarmy superficiality.
I like my news and commentary but it is getting harder and harder to stomach most of CNN

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. "Idiot Legal Show"

Dan Abrams is a good host if you like that kind of thing...

[THUNDER HANDS]

17. I don't like him at all

He's like Bill O'Reilly's annoying kid brother.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. Dan Abrams Is The Son of Floyd Abrams

who argued the famous Sullivan V New York Times cases and was a tireless defender of the First Amendment...


Dan Abrams is not a right wing shill...


I don't watch it cuz the last legal case that interested me was the O J case....

[juajen]

34. Hey, don't leave out Lou Dobbs

He's my favorite conservative. He is one of the reasons the * Administration has lost favor with Real Republicans, as opposed to Neo-cons.

[k in IA]

19. I like MSNBC better also.

[WiseMen]

20. MSNBC?? That canned ratings king Donohue for not supporting the war.

Who put on the rabid right-wing "Savage Nation," to
cater to that audience.

[LittleApple81]

21. Reading DU, apparently it was Matthews who was pissed at the

possibility of Donahue overshadowing him. I don't have the links, but if memory serves me right, that was the gist of it. Matthews was the main influence on MSNBC getting rid of Donahue.
Apparently a DUer asked him about Donahue during the DNC convention and he went into convolutions trying to explain it...

[WiseMen]

45. Wrong! It was well reported that Donohue was canned because

he refused to back down on "Management" request that he tone down
his opposition to the "march to war."

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. I'm Talking About Their News Coverage...

Unlike CNN which lulls everybody to sleep with it's liberal commentators and then gives them a steady diet of pro-Bush administration news MSNBC delivers the news in a non biased fashion....

[redstateblues]

40. I Hate to say it but, Phil(Nader) Donohue Was BORING!

[Lex]

23. Isn't Joe Scarborough on MSNBC?

Sorry, but MSNBC is as bad as CNN as far as I can tell.

Olberman is the only show on the entire network that tries to be objective.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. I'm Talking About Their News Coverage...

CNN has the most liberal commentators but they are camouflage for their pro Bush news slant....


Very deceitful....

[Raiden]

26. Is Anderson Cooper a liberal?

I get that vibe when I watch 360, which along with Crossfire, is the only CNN I watch anymore. I know he is Tucker Carlson's 'arch-nemisis.' He was talking about how he'd love to beat Carlson on jeopardy one day...

[DeepModem Mom]

28. I think if Anderson had not been born into Gen X...

and, therefore, what I call a "Reagan baby" (present Gen X-ers excepted), he would be a liberal all the way. I don't consider him a conservo.

[Tarheelhombre]

30. CNN lost a loyal viewer

I can't stand CNN after last week. THey have definitely lost a loyal viewer. Judy Woodroof is such a rightwing plant.

[sampsonblk]

31. Olbermann - the only straight man on TV News

Christiane Amanpour is fabulous, but doesn't have her own show. So its all about Olbermann for me. The rest of TV news is complete bull.

[juajen]

32. I agree

I watched MSNBC all day today. They certainly were fairer than CNN has been lately, warts and all.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. Me Too...

I haven't watched CNN since I learned that Wolfie said the "Kerry post-convention campaign began with a thud"....


MSNBC plays it straight. Their news department presents both sides and let's the viewer decide....

[redstateblues]

36. Like When They Cut Off Al Sharpton_ He's Off Script- The Dicks

[TheDonkey]

43. CNN can be bad but M$NBC is a joke.

msnbc even having scarbough is the nail in the coffin.

I like Crossfire and Inside Politics (but I usually end up ridiculing Judy Whoredruff throught the program).

[DaveSZ]

46. BSNBC is only a little better than CNN and Faux

I can remember before the Iraq war they served not as a bastion of journalistic integrity, but as a cheerleader that mocked anyone who spoke against the war.

That said, I do watch it sometimes because the other two are intolerable.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

47. MSNBC are just slightly better...

...but I'd watch the BBC or CBC if you're able to get them.

[LTR]

48. MSNBC has redeemed itself as of late

Of the three main 'news' channels, they had the best Convention analysis. It wasn't a snippet of a speech, followed by non-stop bashing by RW tools like CNN did.

I've even watched Scarborough a few times lately. He has definitely toned down his act. He is actually trying to play down the middle.

And many here may despise Tweety, but, aside from his obnoxious personality and unresolved sexual issues, he's not that bad.

My theory is that MSNBC, the lowest rated of the three news nets, has decided that it is pointless going after the RW audience like FOX and CNN did, and is trying to steer itself toward the middle. They pandered to the conservatives in the past few years, but are trying to clean up their act. Let's hope so. I wouldn't mind just a plain, unbiased NEWS network. I'll form my own opinions.

I will say this. The way they treated Ashleigh Banfield was appalling.

As for CNN, they are total sellouts now. Lou Dobbs is the best anchor on the network, and he is a known conservative. Still, he reports on stories that his peers might see as bland and unpopular, such as outsourcing and electronic voting. He looks annoyed when coaxed into playing corporate political games, and tries to avoid it. Cooper is not bad - his show is lighter than the rest of the day. He did downplay the CNN/Gallup poll earlier this week, unlike Wolf and the rest of the whores. And Larry King is Larry King. Like him or hate him, his show has not changed, and probably won't anytime soon. Aaron Brown? He's okay. Seems a bit more centrist than the worst offenders, Wolf, Judy and Bill.

FOX is not a news channel. It is blatant propaganda. Just like watching the news reports on the 700 Club.

CNN International is less whorish than the mothership. And NewsWorld International is the most unbiased of them all, but they air too much fluff and their schedule is a mess. Plus, they need to spice up their content a little.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

49. Great Analysis

I don't have the discipline since leaving grad school to write more than a bunch of sentences...


MSNBC does a nice job... Their news coverage reminds me of the Christian Science Monitor. They seem to approach the news dispassionately....


Fox unlike CNN deserves their props. They are an unabashed conservative network.


CNN is the worst. While they have liberal commentators like Begala and Carville their anchors have a definite right wing slant...


I will never forgive them for flogging the flawed CNN -Gallup post convention poll....

Those bastards were laughing at Kerry....


I hope Fox continues to eat their lunch... CNN is like the K Mart of cable television .... As K Mart lost their priviliged position to Wal Mart and could never recover CNN lost their privileged position to Fox and could never recover...

CNN is number two in more ways than one...

I hope I have the discipline to never watch it again....

[IconoclastIlene]

51. Would you like a CNN LIES

bumpersticker; I till have a couple of extras.