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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:26 PM
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QUINNIPIAC POLL: McCain Beats Obama and Hillary by Equal Margin Among Working Class Whites
Poll: McCain Beats Obama And Hillary By Equal Margin Among Working Class Whites

By Greg Sargent - May 14, 2008, 11:14AM

There are some key numbers buried in the internals of today's Quinnipiac poll that go some way towards deflating Hillary's claim that she would outperform Obama against McCain among working class whites.

It finds that McCain beats both Hillary and Obama by an identical margin among working class (no college) white voters.

Among these voters, McCain beats Obama 46%-39%.

And McCain beats Hillary 48%-41%.

That's a seven point spread in both cases.

What's more, the poll also finds that both lose to McCain by an equal margin of seven points among whites overall.

Of course, Hillary's argument is also about who would fare better among these voters in the big states in particular, and this is only one poll.

Nonetheless, there's no getting around the fact that the above numbers are difficult to square with a central aspect of her basic argument.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/05/poll_mccain_beats_obama_and_hi.php
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:27 PM
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1. There goes Hillary's "White America" argument.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:38 PM
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5. HIllary folks here will studiously ignore this information as if were
kryptonite. They tend to do that with any info that doesn't fit into their shrinking perspective.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:49 PM
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8. this is the third time
I've seen someone put "white america" in quotes. When did Clinton discuss "white America"?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:54 PM
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10. I'm sorry. How sloppy. "Working, hard-working Americans. White Americans."
Edited on Wed May-14-08 12:55 PM by Occam Bandage
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:22 PM
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17. it was a sincere question
I thought it might be in reference to something I hadn't seen. Thanks for clarifying.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:29 PM
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2. Supposed "working class" whites....
obviously likes eating the shit handed to them by the GOP.

As I working class person myself, I think these polls are full of nothing but lies.

GOBAMA!
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:34 PM
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3. Muchas gracias.
The poll has both beating John McCain in the long run, but neither will be able to rely on the demographic that Senator Clinton says should convince superdelegates to overrule the will of the Democratic Party voters.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:59 PM
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13. Even the "Big Dog" lost working whites in 1992 and 1996 with only 39% support both elections.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:34 PM
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4. K&R
:kick:
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:42 PM
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6. I got polled by QUINNIPIAC just 3 days ago
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:45 PM
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7. Again this is more evidence of how true Barack's comments were
Why the hell would anyone working class want McCain? I'll tell you. Because "The Democrats are going to take our guns away."
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tledford Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:51 PM
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9. The poll results differ from what I think, so the poll is wrong. Q.E.D.
;)
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:56 PM
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11. Nora Ephron was right: White men are notoriously unreliable
Give them a chance to reject a woman and/or a black man and most will take it.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:58 PM
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12. Poll is worthless... in the GE, it's about which states you win
In several key normally democratic states, the current demographics do not favor Obama.

The %'s from the Qu poll include the south.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:03 PM
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14. The poll is wrong, because the GE election has barely gotten started......
as Obama is being forced by the Unsinkable Hillary Clinton from campaigning in earnest.

Obama will transcend race, just like he did prior to Hillary Clinton making his melanin count her biggest issue.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:16 PM
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16. In some ways Obama is 'whiter' than Bill Clinton
no one ever seems to talk about that :crazy:

I agree though, nothing about the GE is settled yet.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:04 PM
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15. That's why Hillary needs to step aside by early June and allow us to start campaigning against McC
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