"We've Turned The Corner": 32,000 Jobs

[DrFunkenstein]

It's the credibility, stupid.

(NY Times) WASHINGTON, Aug. 6 - All week long, President Bush traveled the country, cheerfully telling audiences that ''we've turned the corner'' on the economy. But on Friday, in the face of the government's paltry new numbers on job growth, the president's new slogan suddenly sounded premature at best.

Rather than address his vulnerability head-on Friday, Mr. Bush delivered an upbeat assessment of the economy, saying it was getting stronger and lauding the American entrepreneurial spirit. "There's more work to do to make this economy stronger,'' he said at a rally at a farm in Stratham, N.H. "We've been through a recession, we've been through corporate scandals, we've been through a terrorist attack. But we've overcome these obstacles, because our workers are great, because our farmers are really good at what they do. We've overcome these obstacles because the entrepreneurial spirit is strong.''

At the same time, Senator Kerry seized on the numbers with relish. At a farm in Smithville, Mo., outside Kansas City, Mr. Kerry made fun of Mr. Bush, though not by name. "In the last few days you've heard people in positions of leadership on the other side saying America has turned the corner," he said. "Well, it must have been a U-turn."

Even before the latest numbers, polls showed that the public has more faith in Mr. Bush as commander in chief - and less faith in him to manage the economy - than in Senator Kerry. To that end, Mr. Bush on Friday, in a hint of how he is approaching the issue, went from playing down the numbers to quickly turning back to Topic A. The stream of e-mail messages from his campaign to reporters focused on terror, not the economy. Similarly, the subject of his radio address for Saturday was terror, not the economy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/07/politics/campaign/07jobs.html

[gmoney]

1. Don't forget the adjusted (down) May & June numbers (eom)

[NMDemDist2]

2. i wondered about that! you got a link of the adjusted numbers? n/t

[gmoney]

8. Here it is...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2026&e=3&u=/latimests/uspayrollgrowthisweakinjuly

" In addition, the Labor Department on Friday reduced previously reported payroll numbers for June and May by more than 50,000 jobs combined."

That more than cancels out the 32,000 jobs added in July.

[NMDemDist2]

9. thanks n/t

[ClintonTyree]

3. Terror..............

It's a crying shame when all you have to run on is "terror". I guess it's working, I'm terrified of what will happen to this country should he be elected President for the first time.

[DrFunkenstein]

4. I Got Your Terror Right Here

Now, I've always said once you know where they are, will you use the Delta Force or SEALs or Rangers or Special Forces of some kind? Absolutely. And I will not hesitate to use those forces effectively.

In fact, this administration--I was the one who pointed out they failed to use our forces effectively in Afghanistan. We had Osama bin Laden cornered in the mountains of Tora Bora. Rather than deploy the 10th Mountain Division or the 101st Airborne or the Marines, rather than use the best military in the world to go kill the world's number-one terrorist, what did we do? This administration held them back. They sent the Afghans up into the mountains who a week earlier had been on the other side, and they let him escape.

I think that I can fight a far more effective war on terror. I will build alliances and ooperation. I will make America safer. But I will use our military when necessary, but it is not primarily a military operation. It's an intelligence gathering, law enforcement, public diplomacy effort, and we're putting far more money into the war on the battlefield than we are into the war of ideas. We need to get it straight.

-John Kerry, Meet The Press (4/19/04)

http://www.yubanet.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/6/9324

[JohnKleeb]

10. hes maintained that attack on the Bush admin about tora bora?

Good to know that Doc. I thought it was a clever move of him to do that honestly, not only was it an attack from the right but it makes sense too, and no other candiate did that during the primaries.

[DrFunkenstein]

11. He Was In The Media Immediately Afterward Bitching About It

So, it is not like he's just a Monday morning quarterback. In fact, if you look back at his speeches prior to the Iraq invasion, he said over and over that you need to prepare for the peace, because it would be much harder than the invasion part.

[JohnKleeb]

12. right

He's smart. I remember him talking about winning the peace often.

[AndyTiedye]

5. We Turned the Corner, and Around the Corner is a CLIFF Aieeeeeeee!

Of course there aren't any new jobs. Bushler wants to make more
people join the Crusade. Besides, this way he can let oil prices
go through the roof without the inflation numbers going up much,
because labor costs (i.e. wages) are going DOWN.

[opihimoimoi]

6. DOW heading Lower and Jobs are going overseas....yet

we look to the corner.... a corner that has been promised 4 years ago....

Nothing like losing coaches excuses

Real Coaches admit a losing streak and for the sake of the TEAM, dats us, step aside for someelse who save the day...

To stay the course and hope for a Hail Mary Pass is depanding on Guessing and Miricles....which is worse in terms of Odds and Ratios? Its degrading for Gods sake....

[MikeG]

7. No. We're hanging out on the corner because we've got no jobs.

So, wat you doin' tonight, Marty?

I dunno, wat you doin'

I dunno. Just hangin' out on da cornah.