Neo-Con Troubles

[Johnny B. Goode]

My next door neighbors are insane neo-conservatives. They are the craziest right-wingers I've ever seen. I just avoid political discussions with them because you can never get through to them. They are so delusional and in denial.

Here are some of their ideals:

Drilling in the Alaskan reserve will help the environment and solve all of America's oil problems for a hundred years

Abortion is killing off the human race

Homosexuality is destroying the world

The government should pull all funding of programs to help fight AIDS, Parkinson's, Cancer, and all life-threatening diseases.

The courts should use the ten commandments to judge cases.

George W. Bush is a man of god who has never told a lie or done any wrong in his life.
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I'm going insane over here! Any advice?

[calico1]

1. Oh my god

I feel so bad for you. Where do you live?

[Johnny B. Goode]

11. Near Irwin, PA

[RubyDuby in GA]

2. You have only two choices

Move or burn their house down with them in it.
I don't normally advocate violence, but in this instance, there are no alternatives.

[Norquist Nemesis]

3. Tell them that if they truly believe all of that

you have a bridge in Arizona that's for sale ...

[4dsc]

4. Just ask him to prove all his assertions

Then see what he has to say..

[amber dog democrat]

5. WE are dealing with mythology here.

My take would be to limit contact as much as politley possible and take an
I'm sorry you are crazy -but I can't help you stance.

[sui generis]

7. aye aye

life is too short to willingly hang around vexacious people. They have a right to be stupid, but don't let them waste any of your heartbeats.

[buycitgo]

6. put a HUGE Kerry sign up in your yard, if you have yard

if not, put em in your windows/front door, etc.

along with prochoice, proenvironment, prostemcell research stickers/posters, etc

are they the types that would go cracked over something like that?

[Johnny B. Goode]

8. I will

[calico1]

16. Do you think they would be violent?

The reason I ask is putting pro Kerry signs on your lawn is fine of course, but if these people are really wacko do you think they'd vandalize your house or anything? If so I'd be careful.

[Johnny B. Goode]

22. Nah

They're not violent, just crazy

[amber dog democrat]

12. I have a hard time keeping my AMERICANS for PEACE sign up

I think I know who is doing it - but this has been going on for almost a year and a half. Its kind of a game now - but I am amazed at the temerity of someone who comes into my yard to take down a sign that offends.

God knows what will happen to a Kerry sign - and I am in a liberal Austin neighborhood.

[michigandem2]

9. with this kind of mindset..

you can't do anything in my opinion..they are so MIS INFORMED and so stuck on their thoughts--

the problem I have with the "pro lifers" is that they think this war was necessary...even as we lose lives everyday...for someone who values life...it seems kinda...I don't know hypocritical to think that the war is a just war NOW knowing it was an unnecessary war...

sorry..but I would just ignroe the fools!

[amber dog democrat]

13. Religeon is a goofy reason for warfare.

You would think we would have learned that by now.

[Johnny B. Goode]

14. I usually just laugh at them

but I'm losing my patience.

They are extremely pro-life and have all these crazy bumper sticker on their car, like "You Can't Be Both Catholic and Pro-Abortion" and these big pictures of Jesus and Mary then a big Tim Murphy for Congress sticker.

If they're "pro-life" then I don't see why they don't care that nearly a thousand troops have died in Iraq.

[lilymidnite]

15. They're Christian Pharisees ...

avoid them, ignore them.

[calico1]

18. Melissa---

Don't you know that in order to save lives you must kill people? :silly:

[iconoclastic cat]

10. Hold huge pagan rituals in your backyard.

Nudity, blood sacrifice, the works. Cap it off with a screaming, writhing orgy involving rutabagas and stone crabs. The next day, when they complain, pretend you have no idea what they are talking about, then proceed to edge your lawn in a diaper.

[Maddy McCall]

20. HAHAHAHAHA!!!

[Hamlette]

17. Their views are religions in nature

based on faith and not on facts. Do not try to engage in conversation with you. It's like hitting a brick wall.

I think my religious views are the most reasoned around. In my youth I tried to engage people of other religious views in conversation. It caused me more frustration than them.

Try to be a good example, try to find a way to relate to these people without any mention of politics (not sure you can, but worth a try). If they can come to see you as a decent human being it may temper their views of us. They did this in Europe during the 60s. The governments sponsored bridge clubs in several (all?) the countries as a way of bringing people together on neutral ground and to try and bridge the generation gap that raged then. They seem a much less divided populace than we do. The clubs are still going strong.

[olddem43]

19. Be nice to them, they are W's base.

[lunarboy13]

21. Address them point by point...

1. According to the Bush Admin's OWN Energy Commission, the best, most favorable analysis of the oil beneath the surface in the Alaskan reserve will be empty in TWO YEARS if we were to drill for it. And that's the best estimate. It doesn't solve anything.

2. I think they are grossly overstating the number of abortions performed, but I would point out that the planet is over populated as it is.

3. Nice try, we fell for that one with Saddam. Homosexuals DO NOT POSSESS WMD!! What someone else does in their personal life is not your business, and it does not affect you or the world.

4. If that's what they believe, then I hope they, or a loved one, is soon diagnosed with AIDS, Parkinsons, Cancer, or any other life-threatening disease.

5. Then I would point out to them that homosexual acts are then completely legal -- unless it's with your neighbor. Also, the death penalty is off the table.

6. Georgie Bush is not a man of God, he is a politician looking for the votes of worshippers. Georgis once said he reads the bible everyday. Yet, when asked about the particular passage he read one day, he could not answer. He doesn't read anything, remember? And he was a coke user an alcholic a failed businessman, and a liar. He lied about his DUI; he lied when he said he supported the states rights to decide if same-sex marriages were legal; and he lied about the connections between Saddam and 9/11 and about his WMD program.

[Johnny B. Goode]

25. Thanks, but

Facts just don't get through to them, though.

They tell lies to try to back themselves up.

They say, by drilling in Alaska the oil will melt the snow and make plants grow so it will help the environment.

And then they say the oil there will bring gas prices down to 65 cents a gallon.

They say that researchers fighting AIDS, and Parkinson's are purposely taking long because of all the money they get from the government.

They quote parts of bible that talk about homosexuality as sinful. Yet, the same part of the bible says there's nothing wrong with slavery.

They say that more babies have been aborted than people lost in all wars throughout history.

They constantly complain about the media talking about soldiers dying and say that they shouldn't say anything at all. Sounds like fascism.

I'm so sick of it.

[hatrack]

39. Do Atlas or North American Van Lines operate in your town?

If so, call - it's time to move!

No, wait, I've got a better idea - give them a gift membership in NAMBLA. Not only will they be horrified, they'll be on sexual predator watch lists for the rest of their lives - BWAHHAAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[drdigi420]

23. ignore the fundies - religion rots the brain

[TWiley]

24. Unreasonable people are stimulated by opposition.

It would be impossible to listen intently and gently steer them back on course. A bulldozer with several hundred tons of concrete and barbed wire may be the most practical solution.

But, if you insist on trying to help the insane, the first step would be to get them to turn off that vile christian talk radio. One demerit would be awarded for every second spent listening to the likes of limbaugh. More than three demerits per week, and your case should be considered hopeless.

They talk and rant like that to gain acceptance. They are terrified of being attacked by the same thugs they have come to adore. They spout that crap so it will always be others who are burned at the stake as they are in like flint with the perps. It pays to brown-nose the one wearing the "special" hat who possesses the power to select the next human sacrifice at the alter. Technically their psychosis would probably be considered a variant of the battered wife syndrome.

No demon radio and a fresh new crowd to circulate in would be their only hope. Why not fix up the spare room just for them?

[WilliamPitt]

26. Molotov cocktails?

[Johnny B. Goode]

38. Are you who I think you are?

Are you that one author?

[Jacobin]

27. 12 foot high privacy fence?

Check your deed restrictions and local building codes.

:-)

[beyurslf]

28. Move :)

[Claire Beth]

31. I was just about to post that....

when I read your post. LOLOL

[demwing]

29. Put their names on every progressive mailing list that you can find.

Especially the most lefty groups. Concentrate on gay and lesbian support groups, environmental groups, and Planned Parenthood.

If you have a little cash to burn, send each of those groups $1 in the names of your neighbors. They will then be deluged with "Thanks for your donation" letters, and the groups will sell their address to other progressive mailing lists. The fun will never stop!

You'll never, ever, ever change the hearts and minds of these people, but by all means, I encourage you to irritate the fuck out of them! Their rage will just make them act "progressively" loopier and loopier (Sorry about that pun)!

You can then rest in the hope that they'll have less of an affect on any fence sitters. Frothing mouthed loonies with conspiracy theories that "unknown agents are donating to the gays in my name" tend to be shunned.

BTW - do they have children? If so, maybe some of the progressive stuff they get in the mail will have a generational affect on the family's mindset. You know how teens love to rebell against the ideologies of their parents...

[PA Democrat]

34. Their 16 year old son is my best friend

Most people on the DU think I'm an adult, I'm only 15.

But the kids are so brainwashed I doubt there's any hope

[PA Democrat]

35. oops

I'm actually Johnny B. Goode

[hippiegranny]

30. put them on ignore

it's works here at DU!

[Domass]

32. Well...

We keep screaming about hate and free speech and THIS is how it's done?

Thom

[VOX]

33. They sound seriously delusional...

I wouldn't even attempt to engage them in any discussions about religion or politics -- you'd be wasting your time, not to mention testing your own sanity.

Hang in there -- :toast:

[blue neen]

36. I think you have a BIG problem here.

These are the type of people who would even blame the long lines at Disney World on liberals!!!!

[yardwork]

37. I know at least 12 people right now who believe every one of those

and they're determined to vote for shrub.

When I try to point out issues with shrub's performance, they put their fingers in their ears and sing la-la-la. Then they get mad at me for "making everything political."

[veracity]

40. Half the country believes these things....

That's why this election is so close. Half this country, people... half. And growing. Costa Rica, anyone?

Are you really surprised..? There's a huge divide in this country....

One Nation Divisible - THE APPALLING AMERICAN INFORMATION RIFT

http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/one_nation__divisible.html

[NEDem]

41. I work with a guy like you describe.

Up until a couple months ago we'd chat about politics, I found him mildly amusing. Black helicopters, End-times kind of guy. But he got really weird a couple months ago and I just quit talking to him, I'll say hi and chat about the weather, but the second he mentions anything near political I walk away. It really does cut down on the aggravation.

However, 2 weeks ago I finally got my Kerry bumper stickers. Since then I've been making it a point to park right next to him. I think he's ready to blow, I've heard him bitching to people in his office about 'that damn librul computer tech.' Its wonderful.