Bush - Kerry agrees with me. War was right decision.

[Kimber Scott]

Now tell me I had no reason to be upset about Kerry saying he would have still voted for the IWR knowing what he knows now!

Nothing like handing your head to someone on a silver platter.

[Kadie]

1. Who cares what bushie said, he turns everything around anyway.

Kerry said he wouldn't change his vote, but he also said he wouldn't rush into war, big big big difference between bushie and Kerry.

[Sparkly]

2. Can we please separate voting for the resolution

from Bush's decision to invade Iraq without inspections having been completed, without the UN Security Council onboard, without a strong coalition, without ensuring it wouldn't weaken the efforts in Afghanistan, and without a plan for the aftermath?

[noahmijo]

3. link?

And once again Kerry himself never said it, his national security advisor allegedly said it (which he never did)

This is actually what he said:

""Yes, I would have voted for that authority but I would have used that authority to do things very differently," Kerry said after a short hike from Hopi Point to Powell Point on the Grand Canyon's South Rim."

The 'Yes' vote on the IWR essential to the establishment of effective weapons inspections. Only the threat of force made the previous inspections effective. I asked Scott Ritter personally if his seven years in Iraq as an inspector would have been effective without the threat of force. He said the inspections would have been useless without the threat.

It's a little too nervewracking as to how you trust Bush more than Kerry on this issue. (He said it you immediately believed it without wondering if he twisted Kerry's words)

To that person from Washington I assume (God_Bush_Cheney) who was asking me when the hell Kerry is going to correct this well NOW IS THE TIME IF THIS IS TRUE.

[ClassWarrior]

4. News Flash: BUSH LIES.

[JohnKleeb]

6. we're gonna trust Bush now

hah. Gotta give Dubya some credit, he's got some of the left trusting him.

[annxburns]

5. Ho hum ...

... another Bush lie. That is not what Kerry said.

[drdigi420]

7. Don't worry, this is the Farewell Tour

Bush/Cheney Farewell Tour 2004 T-shirts!!!!

[Kimber Scott]

8. You guys just don't get it.

I KNOW what Kerry meant when he talks about his vote for the IRW. I KNOW the difference between a resolution to go to war and going to war, so don't give me the NUANCE bullshit. You see, I KNEW what Clark meant when he told a reporter on an airplane he would have voted for the IRW. What he meant and what it got spinned into are two different things. He walked into a pile of shit, and now, so has Kerry.

NUANCES DON'T WORK IN POLITICS!

By the way, Bush's speech, in which he talked about how his opponent now agrees with him, was just on CNN. That's what got me started on this. One day. Actually, less than one day, is all it took.

[bowens43]

11. There was NO resolution to go to war.

Bush is an idiot. Kerry doesn't agree with him.

[emulatorloo]

13. Bush is twisting Kerry's words - that's what Bush does

again. . .did Bush answer Kerry's questions?

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/10/politics/campaign/10kerry.html

My question to President Bush is, Why did he rush to war without a plan to win the peace?" Mr. Kerry told reporters here after responding to Mr. Bush's request last week for a yes-or-no answer on how he would vote today on the resolution authorizing the use of force in Iraq.

"Why did he rush to war on faulty intelligence and not do the hard work necessary to give America the truth?" he said. "Why did he mislead America about how he would go to war? Why has he not brought other countries to the table in order to support American troops in the way that we deserve it and relieve a pressure from the American people?"

[JI7]

15. nuance does not work in politics which is why Kerry won the primary

oh, wait, does that make any sense to anyone ?

[JI7]

16. oh, so it's nuance you don't like ? so don't vote for Kerry

if that's what you are basing your vote on.

[Sparkly]

17. So because the Chimp oversimplifies to mislead on purpose,

Kerry should do the same?

Things ARE nuanced, and they're NOT what the Chimp says they are. I'm sure they'd love it if their little soundbytes succeeded in jerking Kerry around on a leash, getting him to respond in kind and painting him into corners where they can play "gotcha!" and "flip-flop!"

I don't see what else Kerry could or should have said. The resolution was to get inspections, not to invade despite them. That's what he voted for, that's what he says he'd still have voted for; so it leaves the burden on the Chimp for doing the wrong thing with it, not on Kerry for doing the wrong thing.

[Kadie]

18. Have more faith in people to figure this out, they will as bushie

keeps lying and Kerry keeps getting his point across. Kerry's numbers are going up, bushies are going down. The points are getting across, more and more people are realizing that bushie is untrustworthy. It will be OK. If you want to, help spread Kerry's message, help people you come across understand the difference between the two.

[lancdem]

19. Who cares what Bush said?

He's also twisted Clinton's statements to justify his actions on occasion.

[Kimber Scott]

20. Oh yes. I believe Bush. God, I thought you people were more complex

than this!

Whatever. Bush put a chess move on Kerry with his question of whether he would have still voted for the IWR, knowing what he knows now and IN MY OPINION Kerry made a bad play with his answer.

If the talking heads aren't still debating this in a week, I'll pack my worries about this election in a suitcase and sip margaritas until November. Maybe, we'll get lucky and Amber Fry will throw some juicy stuff out on the Peterson courtroom floor and we won't hear anymore about how Kerry now "agrees with Bush" on the news, it'll all be about extramarital sex and important stuff like that.

[hippiegranny]

22. kimber, it's gonna be ok

the sky is not falling. Take a deep breath and repeat after me, "Bush has a credibility gap the size of the Grand Canyon."

[emulatorloo]

9. And did Bush answer Kerry's Questions?

"My question to President Bush is, Why did he rush to war without a plan to win the peace?" Mr. Kerry told reporters here after responding to Mr. Bush's request last week for a yes-or-no answer on how he would vote today on the resolution authorizing the use of force in Iraq.

"Why did he rush to war on faulty intelligence and not do the hard work necessary to give America the truth?" he said. "Why did he mislead America about how he would go to war? Why has he not brought other countries to the table in order to support American troops in the way that we deserve it and relieve a pressure from the American people?"


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/10/politics/campaign/10kerry.html

[Qutzupalotl]

21. Bush afraid to answer...Kerry must hammer him.

"Why won't George W. Bush answer this question? What is he afraid of?"

That kind of stupid threat to Bush's machismo is just the thing to draw him out.

Of course, Kerry's questions are really rhetorical, so there won't be much in the way of a real answer...just more spin, or a change of subject.

I *really* like Kerry's response. I think he handled it well.

[sangh0]

23. Bush* afraid to answer...Kimber Scott silent

Everyone has their priorities

[emulatorloo]

24. Maybe this will take on "Bush Spin" will cheer everybody up

especially the last panel. . .

http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=17443

[Kimber Scott]

26. Perfect.

Thanks!

[Kimber Scott]

27. Silent?

:freak:

[bowens43]

10. We need to go through this again?

IWR did not authorize the Iraq war. It was not a vote on whether or not we would go to war. Bush trying to twist the facts to support his point of view doesn't change that. The vote was whether or not to give the president the option.

[JI7]

12. so don't vote for him if you vote based on what Bush says

everyone makes decisions to vote based on different things. if this is what you are voting on then don't vote for him.

i'm voting for kerry because of his plans for environment and investment in alternative sources of energy which would go a long way in preventing future wars. i like his stand on stem cell research, abortion rights. on more diversity in the media. on helping people go to college by doing volunteer work. i like his support for providing funding to state and local governments so they can fund firefighters, teachers, cops etc. i like it that he would focus on helping people, especially young kids with drug problems get treatment rather than focus on prison only. i like it that he will take away tax cuts for the rich and invest in education and job creation.

if none of these issues matter enough for you to vote for one candidate over the other then don't vote for kerry.

[blm]

14. Accept Bush's spin. It lets him off the hook for dishonest implementation

of the IWR.

[DaveinMD]

25. of course

that's not what Kerry said. Why would you believe Bush now when you wouldn't believe anything else he's said.

[Domass]

29. The truth doesn't matter

in this game. We'all can talk about what we "know" but Kerry took a hit with independents (and some radical lefties, though they'll vote for him anyway) over this, mark my words!

Thom

[opihimoimoi]

28. I thought the Bush Speech Team agreed to keep him Home???

"Its better to keep him home and not say anything....everytime he does, we go backwards...."