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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:16 PM Original message |
Re: Kerry's reaffirmation of Iraq War vote. Don't fall for Rove's ploy. |
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jjmalonejr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. Bless you, Skinner! |
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coloradodem2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
2. I am only asking questions. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. The anti-war left is risking discrediting it's opposition to war |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. As I said... |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
46. That is because we only have two choices and you have insured |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:12 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Well, then, stay home |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:16 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. On this issue yes |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 09:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
162. yeah, especially since the anti-war left |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 09:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
170. That is totally untrue sangh0, and that is all I am going to say about |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
4. It's like Clinton said...people would rather have a leader that is wrong |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 09:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
163. It's like Henry Clay said |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
5. God it would be nice to have a dem that voted against the stupid IWR |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. It's too late for that. |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. AMEN, and, consider the alternative. |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
39. He's our guy, and he is hostile to us. We have no where to go |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:57 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Kerry is not "hostile" to you. |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. and the majority of American now opposed to this war |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:11 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Sorry I disagree |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Strawman |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:22 PM Response to Reply #54 |
66. Touchdown Dance? Hostile? |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:27 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. A plan to win the peace means he is just pissed off about how |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 09:59 PM Response to Reply #54 |
177. Hey Pal!!! you sound intelligent yet brainwashed, is it |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
56. Yeah |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:18 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. It isn't just one topic with me. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 09:30 PM Response to Reply #56 |
165. Grow up? |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 11:08 PM Response to Reply #165 |
182. What the hell is it with you people? |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 05:54 PM Response to Reply #42 |
102. We're in this; and many of us who opposed the war see the only |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. I disagree w you |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. How does it resonate when he won't even say it was wrong. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. it resonates because |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. nobody said it was wrong. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 05:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
103. If you take it that personally, you're doomed. It's politics. nt |
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freedom_to_read (623 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
6. hear hear [eom] |
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nycmjkfan (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
7. The anti-war folk |
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goodhue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. I know many anti-war folk on the fence about Kerry. |
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George_Bonanza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
10. Thanks for the support Skinner |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
11. This should be kept up on the board...as I see many, many threads |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
12. Too bad Kerry didn't stay out of the trap by voting no to begin with |
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goodhue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
13. I agree that it is a Rovian ploy |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. So? Your point? Kerry's still light years better than the alternative. |
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goodhue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
38. Yes obviously better. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 05:06 PM Response to Reply #38 |
87. Understood. |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
14. Thank you for making this statement, Skinner... |
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snippyMcNippy (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
47. I don't consider all criticism of Kerry as Anti-Kerry |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 09:29 PM Response to Reply #47 |
164. When did Skinner become snippyMcNippy??? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
16. It hurts though. It hurts to be criticized for being anti-war . |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. NO one is criticizing you for being anti-war |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:38 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Nobody is asking you to be okay with the Iraq war. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Trying, but most of us still think both are for empire. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. If you are against empire |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
83. Some think it because they WANT to think it. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 05:17 PM Response to Reply #83 |
92. And which am I, blm? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:47 PM Response to Reply #92 |
129. Why would you even ask that after all this time? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:57 PM Response to Reply #129 |
135. WHOA! When did this turn into a Dean thing, blm? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 07:50 PM Response to Reply #135 |
153. You want it both ways. Sing praises of Dean's Biden-Lugar position while |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 08:14 PM Response to Reply #153 |
155. I don't like Dean's position on it either. Why did you bring Dean up? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 08:47 PM Response to Reply #155 |
158. Because you implied you don't trust Kerry to be different than Bush. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 08:55 PM Response to Reply #158 |
160. That is so not true, blm. Why are you inserting Dean in this? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-11-04 12:21 PM Response to Reply #160 |
188. Becuase you have a double standard |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. Nobody IS "FOR THE WAR" or criticising you for being Anti-War |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:44 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Yes, people who are anti-war are being criticized here. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Not for being anti-war |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
106. Where? Links, please--I've got a few words for those who do; |
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marlakay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 05:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
85. I feel the same way |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
105. Who criticizes the anti-war folks (as I consider myself to be)? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-11-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #105 |
187. The silence is defeaning |
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democratreformed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
19. I guess they are playing with that little shadow of doubt that some may |
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hippiegranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
21. thank you skinner |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
27. I've talked with one-issue anti-war folks and they just don't get it |
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snippyMcNippy (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:12 PM Response to Reply #27 |
49. At all costs? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 05:10 PM Response to Reply #49 |
90. ABBers are usually uninformed about Kerry |
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snippyMcNippy (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 08:43 PM Response to Reply #90 |
157. Yes, but it's the "at all costs" that scares me |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 09:38 PM Response to Reply #90 |
168. ABBers are usually informed about Kerry |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 09:52 PM Response to Reply #168 |
175. Every discussion I have with an ABBer tends to prove they don't know Kerry |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 10:13 PM Response to Reply #175 |
180. maybe that's because in his desire to be "nuanced" |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 09:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
167. if you think Iraq is only one issue |
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elperromagico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
28. I concur completely. n/t |
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unfrigginreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
31. He didn't need to reaffirm his vote and he should stop doing it |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
108. This is the kind of criticism that helps. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 07:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
143. Rand Beers does not say the war was wrong at all. |
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unfrigginreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 10:12 PM Response to Reply #143 |
179. I agree with you MF but I don't expect Kerry to say it was wrong... |
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stellanoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
32. posted elsewhere earlier. . . |
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cidliz2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 08:49 PM Response to Reply #32 |
159. This makes sense of Kerry's answer |
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Ducks In A Row (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
36. Thanks |
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KC21304 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
37. I believe there is a third way and I thought Kerry was almost there |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
65. JK said if you think he would have pulled inspectors out, rushed to war |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 09:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
172. let's assume |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
40. So once more, the anti war and progressive far left is forced into line |
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snippyMcNippy (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
43. Kerry knows his base supports him no matter what. |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. He knows we have no fucking choice |
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snippyMcNippy (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:18 PM Response to Reply #44 |
62. I'm with you CL |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:26 PM Response to Reply #44 |
70. Amen friend, amen |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
45. It's Rove's way of giving the Democratic Party a Wedgie |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:12 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. I have not fallen for anything. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. You are not being talked "down to" because you opposed the invasion |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Please post proof of what you just said. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:17 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. You claimed you are being attacked for being anti-war |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:38 PM Response to Reply #60 |
75. I have been. Many have been. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:10 PM Response to Reply #75 |
110. If you won't buck up with evidence, I can't take you seriously. nt |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:11 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Thanks for not taking me seriously. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:45 PM Response to Reply #111 |
128. Your welcome, anytime! |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 09:49 PM Response to Reply #111 |
174. I take you seriously |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 11:10 PM Response to Reply #174 |
183. Thanks. |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 07:42 PM Response to Reply #75 |
152. I am proudly on the anti-war Left! |
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unfrigginreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:33 PM Response to Reply #45 |
73. Yeah, but Kerry threw salt in the wound the way he answered it. |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:08 PM Response to Reply #73 |
109. Yeah, he was specifically trying to hurt you. |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
52. he has been totally consistent on this |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
57. I don't believe in people being silenced. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:18 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. No one is being silenced on DU |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
59. It's amazing how much time people spend on a political website.. |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:23 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. You conservative dems have lost the last two elections so I don't |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 05:06 PM Response to Reply #67 |
86. Whatever! And by the way. I'm not a conservative Dem. I'm a .. |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #86 |
94. There are people who claim lieberman is moderate because he is prochoice. |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 05:35 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Have whatever perspective you want. But try not to label people.. |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 05:40 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. I know from personal experience with you that you advocate |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:16 PM Response to Reply #98 |
115. Why do you find it necessary to label the other poster |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:22 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. It is important to know where people are coming from |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:32 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Which is achieved by listening to them, not by labeling them |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:38 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. I already know where he comes from by having debated |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:44 PM Response to Reply #121 |
127. Does that mean you understand that you aren't advocating for a position |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:52 PM Response to Reply #127 |
132. I am a progressive dem |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:56 PM Response to Reply #132 |
134. see post 130 |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 09:43 PM Response to Reply #132 |
169. Say it, CL! Say it! |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:58 PM Response to Reply #98 |
137. Running to the "middle" is not conservative. You're right about.. |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 07:16 PM Response to Reply #137 |
145. The middle in the US is conservatie relative to the rest of the world |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:13 PM Response to Reply #67 |
113. IMHO, calling ANYONE on DU a "conservative" is alertable! nt |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:15 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. I called him a "conservative democrat" |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:36 PM Response to Reply #114 |
120. But -- why? |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:41 PM Response to Reply #120 |
124. I am a progressive democrat |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:48 PM Response to Reply #124 |
130. I don't care how you label yourself, as long as you don't label others. |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 07:03 PM Response to Reply #130 |
140. Bush is a republican, so is Carl Rove |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 07:07 PM Response to Reply #140 |
141. Well not really. You label me a conservative. Then explain it's because |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 07:12 PM Response to Reply #141 |
144. "Conservative Democrat" sure as hell doesn't imply Jerry Falwell. |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 07:22 PM Response to Reply #140 |
146. I don't have any problem with those -- that is you expressing your |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 07:27 PM Response to Reply #146 |
148. No |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 08:18 PM Response to Reply #148 |
156. I don't believe you don't understand what an analogy is. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:43 PM Response to Reply #114 |
125. Naw, I still think there's a sense of humor there somewhere. nt |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-11-04 12:23 PM Response to Reply #67 |
189. Mondale is a conservative Dem? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 05:20 PM Response to Reply #59 |
95. I don't have to understand politics to know that Iraq was very wrong. |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 07:02 PM Response to Reply #95 |
139. We all know it's wrong. But what's the use of beating a dead horse? |
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klook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
61. "Knowing what you know now" |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
68. I think you read this correctly Skinner. |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
69. I'm as anti-war as anyone here, BUT... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 05:47 PM Response to Reply #69 |
100. I don't get why ANYONE is surprised. Kerry has said all along he didn't |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 09:55 PM Response to Reply #100 |
176. "It's the same position Kerry has had all along" |
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Texas_Dem (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
72. Thank you for the rational voice |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
74. Preach It, Skinner. |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
76. You Rovian theorists are being held hostage. |
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liveoaktx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
77. Video Clip from Lou Dobbs that proves this point |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. But handling it differently is probably just a coded way of saying |
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unfrigginreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. Not necessarily... |
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liveoaktx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 05:09 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. I agree with that. From the start, according to The Price of Loyalty |
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Snoggera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 05:08 PM Response to Reply #80 |
88. Do you have any information that would shed some light on this statement? |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 05:16 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Will Marshall is Kerry foriegn policy speech advisor |
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Snoggera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. I'll be damned n/t |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 05:51 PM Response to Reply #91 |
101. If this is true about PNAC PPI and Marshall - I may not vote, Does |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:06 PM Response to Reply #101 |
107. Guilt by association? |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:12 PM Response to Reply #101 |
112. Well Kerry has promised to get along with Europe better |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:00 PM Response to Reply #80 |
104. Your post is probably just a coded way of saying |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:29 PM Response to Reply #104 |
118. No, I am reading between the lines |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:40 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. Yes, I am reading between the lines |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:44 PM Response to Reply #122 |
126. this is just baloney flaming |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:50 PM Response to Reply #126 |
131. So when I use the exact same tactic and logic as you - it's 'baloney'? |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 07:01 PM Response to Reply #131 |
138. You're tactic is to change the subject |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 07:09 PM Response to Reply #138 |
142. No, I am consistently pointing out that you are putting words in people's |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 07:24 PM Response to Reply #142 |
147. I don't take politicians or many of the people on the board at |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
78. This is why I no longer argue about the IWR. |
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Snoggera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
79. I was, and remain strongly against this war, and most |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:55 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. I don't believe it is just the right wing of the republicans |
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Snoggera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. I think when Dean went down in flames |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 05:25 PM Response to Reply #82 |
96. They are prowar and want to ditch antiwar factions. |
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farmbo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
99. Bingo...Rove wanted to run the canned Dean attacks against Kerry... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
116. You should have heard Rep Bob Menendez from New Jersey.. |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
123. My last post on this thread... |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:58 PM Response to Reply #123 |
136. Hugo Chavez will kick neoliberal butt in the referendum in Venezuala |
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agincourt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
133. I hated his IWR vote,too |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 07:37 PM Response to Reply #133 |
150. I also hated his IWR vote but the differences I have |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 09:59 PM Response to Reply #133 |
178. and if we stay in Iraq |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
149. A million THANK YOUS |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 09:30 PM Response to Reply #149 |
166. Only the ivory soapers don't get it. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 07:38 PM Original message |
Skinner, thanks for trying by posting this. |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
151. Well said! |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
154. Double bless you Skinner |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
161. "He fudged it", alright. |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
171. Sometimes it takes people with level head to explain... |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
173. I guess common sense and doing the right thing gets in the way of |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-04 10:15 PM Response to Reply #173 |
181. war |
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TexasSissy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-11-04 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
184. I disagree. He should've avoided the question as hypothetical. |
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cidliz2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-11-04 01:31 AM Response to Original message |
185. Kerry's Statement on his vote going to Iraq 12/2003 |
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MattNC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-11-04 12:05 PM Response to Reply #185 |
186. thanks for that n/t |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-12-04 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
190. I really appreciate this thread |
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