I guess we can't complain about those missing WMDs anymore.

[The Crazy Canadian]

I can't believe Kerry would have voted the same way on the Iraq war resolution, even if no WMD would be found. Then, what the hell was the whole point of invading Iraq, if it wasn't about disarming Saddam?

This is definitely a victory for the warmongering right-wingers and you can tell Bush is really enjoying it.

This really gets me steamed. What are the anti-war lefties to do?

The whole Iraq war has been a mistake from the beginning. Most of the US public and the world public opinion believes this war is unjust. Iraq is spiraling our of control and all Kerry can say is that he would have conducted the war differently. Bull shit!

[Walt Starr]

1. BULLSHIT

Sorry, but your post does not pass the smell test and has been deemed BULLSHIT!!!!!

[swag]

9. I had been going to say, "Welcome to DU,

pseudo-Canadian Freeper," but have been counseled to give benefit of doubt.

Anyway, the pseudo-Canadian freeper should learn to read before trying to goose up a fictional wedge issue.

[The Crazy Canadian]

28. Well, i'm very suspecious of Kerry not taking a stronger stand

agaisnt Bush on Iraq. I'm not here to divide, but to learn. What's the point of DU if we don't toss everything on the table and talk about it?

[Caution]

2. please read what kerry said

rather than bush's interpretation of it.

man if we can't be bothered to understand what our leaders are trying to say to us than maybe we deserve to be led by an idiot like the chimp

[The Crazy Canadian]

6. I read what he said.

Kerry challenged Bush to answer some questions of his own -- why he rushed to war without a plan for the peace, why he used faulty intelligence, why he misled Americans about how he would go to war and why he had not brought other countries to the table.

"There are four not hypothetical questions like the president's, real questions that matter to Americans and I hope you'll get the answers to those questions, because the American people deserve them," he told reporters

http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/381249|top|08-09-2004::17:46|reuters.html

[swag]

10. nice drudge link, son.

[The Crazy Canadian]

23. Drudge has some good links, i notice alot of people here use them.

[MichiganVote]

18. Really? Well that's great. Now....

he can ask his good buddy republicans in the Senate why they all bothered to believe his lies too. I think the American people deserve that and an answer from Bush about his complicity in this fiasco too.

I await the news article.

BTW, you don't have the whole story. Do your own homework.

[progressivebydesign]

3. No...

Not in the least. What Kerry SAID, and what many others have said, is that they agree with giving a President the authority to work with the UN, etc., to find a resolution to the inspections, etc. What Kerry has repeatedly said, and now Bush is ignoring, is that he believes Bush misused the authority as outlined in the IWR.. and that he would have NOT attacked unilaterally, etc. Why do people keep bringing this shit up? The GOP loves it, every time you do.

[bluestateguy]

4. Kerry will do the right thing in Iraq

Right now though, the election must be won. If he were to call for a pullout the media would go absolutely banannas. If he said he would have voted differently, the Bush campaign would say "See! See! Another Kerry flip-flop! See! See!" I'm really not paying attention to what either candidate says in the campaign. I can appreciate that in campaigns sometimes certain things just have to be said, or left unsaid, so as to keep the corporate media in line, and to not piss off that white-bread couple in Des Moines who just can't seem to decide who to vote for. My mind is made up anyway.

[Ducks In A Row]

5. I don't believe anything coming out of right field

now pull my other leg

[swag]

7. Again

please read:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=605385

But thanks for asking.

And welcome to DU.

[The Crazy Canadian]

11. Thanks. I'll look into it.

[swag]

13. No, thank YOU

and see that you do.

[tabasco]

8. Troll-o-Meter says ....

1-2-3- :* -5-6-7-8-9-10

4/10

[DaveinMD]

12. again

not what he said, but nice try.

[Lefty_the_Right]

14. I've been here for 3+ years, and I have questions too

I am die hard liberal (know me by my work at airamericatalk)but I really HATE the way Kerry answered the question.

He shouldn't even come close to letting them chop a soudbite out of what he says.

His answer sucked, IMO, and should have been much clearer, and left absolutely no room for it to be taken out of context.

[West Coast Democrat]

15. I can't help but be suspicious of the intentions of people...

who keep posting this garbage.

[The Crazy Canadian]

19. Garbage? I think Kerry needs to be a bit clearer and aggressive

in he's responses.

OK, he would have voted for the IWR to provide the threat so the inspectors can be more effective.

But for fuck sakes, we're dealing with Bush here and those damn neocon fuckers. You're going to trust these guys with war resolutions?

[West Coast Democrat]

24. I don't find it hard to believe...

that Kerry didn't want Bushco to label him as "weak on defense," and you have to remember that this vote was quite early on in the process. We all knew it was part of the GOP's 2002 election strategy. It was a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, obviously.

[The Crazy Canadian]

26. Yeah. Kerry was in a tight spot.

[Radio-Active]

16. that's not what he meant., lefty

There wouldn't even have been a vote on Iraq if Congress knew there were no WMD's. Bush's question is pointless. Kerry's mistake was walking into Bush's trap.

[CatWoman]

17. quick!!!! there he is!!!!

[The Crazy Canadian]

20. Is there a point to your post?

[CatWoman]

21. yes

I found the WMD.

[The Crazy Canadian]

27. Thanks.

[Padraig18]

22. Is there one to yours?

Be glad--- VERY glad--- that I'm not still a Mod.

[The Crazy Canadian]

25. Oh, no. Why would anyone delete this post for?

[Padraig18]

30. I wouldn't delete it

I'd just lock it for the piece of flame bait it is.

[buycitgo]

29. fwiw, being very intolerant of ECs

I have to say that this hoser seems to have heart in right place

maybe didn't realize at first what Kerry actually said, which is part of the problem, it becomes obvious

even when Kerry says what he says, outfits like the WASHINGTON POST completely mischaracterize what he said in response to the yellowboy.

THEY said Kerry said he'd go to WAR, not revote the same way on the IWR

that's despicable, dishonest journalism, DESIGNED to make Kerry look bad. can you say Ceci Connolly? or Kit Seelye? this calls for emails to ombudsman

that said, am I being too easy on our Great White Northerner?

thought he was pretty polite, given attack mentality

not that I have ANY problem with that, when warranted



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[Moderator]

31. locking

flamebait