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carpe diem Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 09:58 PM
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Obama: The RW is already worried...

NEW YORK, Aug. 10 /PRNewswire/ -- Out2.com's independent contrarian columnist, Andy Martin, will publish a column and hold simultaneous news conferences in New York and London on Wednesday, August 11th to disclose he believes Barack Obama is a political fraud who "lied to the American people." Martin has asked Crown Books to stop sales of Obama's book because of its fraudulent content. Martin says Obama may be a threat to the Jewish community.



http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040810/nytu167_1.html


They are trying to ABORT his political career in its infancy. Why is a Republican Senate candidate from Florida waging a three continent investigation of Obama's family background? Who is paying for it? If you read the press release carefully, there really isn't anything there. Basically they are "smearing" Obama w/ the fact that his African father was raised as a Muslim. Imagine that, Muslims in Africa. I had read Obama's book and several in-depth articles over the last few months so that's not news to me, but this type of tactic will get taken up by the RW media machine and they will start the drum beat. They are going to do their damndest to turn him into Osama bin Laden by election day!


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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:02 PM
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1. It Will Fail
I think this is one time it will blow up in their faces. Too many people in Chicago like Obama from what I've heard. He's earned a lot of respect all around.

I don't see it getting far since not many put a whole lot of stock in Keyes anyways.

Cyn:)
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sandraj Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:05 PM
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2. They can't win on merit
Edited on Tue Aug-10-04 10:07 PM by sandraj
So they're going to drag Obama through the mud instead. Ever since Keyes was asked to run it's been all smear all the time by him and our local media.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:05 PM
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3. Kee-rist!!!!! Will these asses stop at nothing???? (Sorry, Jeebus) n/t
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:23 PM
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4. I take solace in knowing that the Repuks will all burn in hell.
They can shovel more coal under Reagan.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:25 PM
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5. What a load of crap!
Edited on Tue Aug-10-04 10:30 PM by steviet_2003
from the article "Fiction: Obama stated in his Convention speech: 'My father ... grew up herding goats.' The 'goat herder' claim has been repeated endlessly. It is a lie. Fact: Obama's grandfather, Hussein Onyango Obama was a prominent and wealthy farmer. His son, Obama's father, was a child of privilege, not privation. He was an outstanding student, not a herdsman.

from the transcript: Tonight is a particular honor for me because — let’s face it — my presence on this stage is pretty unlikely. My father was a foreign student, born and raised in a small village in Kenya. He grew up herding goats, went to school in a tin-roof shack. His father — my grandfather — was a cook, a domestic servant to the British.

First, this a**hole has the quote wrong, second, even if his father was the son of a farmer and of relative priviledge, would he not have worked in the family business as a child, starting at the bottom?

Obama in NOT a muslim, he is a christian

"I am a Christian," the 42-year-old Illinois state senator and Democratic candidate for the U.S. Senate says, as one of the nearby customers interrupts to congratulate him on his recent primary win. Obama shakes the man's hand and says, "Thank you very much. I appreciate that," before turning his attention directly back to the question.

snip--------

"So, I have a deep faith," Obama continues. "I'm rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.

"That there are values that transcend race or culture, that move us forward, and there's an obligation for all of us individually as well as collectively to take responsibility to make those values lived."

It's perhaps an unlikely theological position for someone who places his faith squarely at the feet of Jesus to take, saying essentially that all people of faith -- Christians, Jews, Muslims, animists, everyone -- know the same God.

That depends, Obama says, on how a particular verse from the Gospel of John, where Jesus says, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but by me," is heard.

Obama's theological point of view was shaped by his uniquely multicultural upbringing. He was born in 1961 in Hawaii to a white mother who came from Protestant Midwestern stock and a black African father who hailed from the Luo tribe of Kenya.

Obama describes his father, after whom he is named, as "agnostic." His paternal grandfather was a Muslim. His mother, he says, was a Christian.


more--------> http://www.suntimes.com/output/falsani/cst-nws-spirit05.html

Actually, the above article rebuts most of the crap from Martin, besides which, his dad left when he was 2 years old.

On edit: there was so much more I wanted to say but it is getting late, but I thought it important to add that my claiming Obama is not a Muslim is intended in no way to denigrate Muslims. I, personally don't see that as anything wrong. I was just rebutting the original link's premise that he is hiding from that for political reasons.
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The Hair in my Nose Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 05:28 PM
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9. Get ready...
***That depends, Obama says, on how a particular verse from the Gospel of John, where Jesus says, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but by me," is heard.***

The repugs will have a field day with this. They will turn it into an "it depends on what the meaning of is is" moment.

He ought to just refuse to discuss his religion saying his views are his views and they are none of anyone else's damn business.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:29 PM
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6. Right wingers attacking Obama for not being Muslim enough?
Obama has spent a lifetime running from his family heritage and religious heritage. Obama will be the first Muslim-heritage senator; he should be proud of that fact.

This has to be taken from the Onion. :)
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R3dD0g Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 05:09 PM
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7. My wife is from Nigeria
and that is a long LONG (12 hr flight) way from Kenya. But, in the old days, African wealth was measured differently from our methods.

Wealth was determined by the number of animals the family was responsible for. So, it is quite possible that Obama's grandfather was wealthy, that just means his father was responsible for more animals than his less well off peers.

As for Muslim heritage. That's doubtful. Kenya was colonized by the Brits and most of sub Saharan Africa was devoutly Christian. Only since the colonies gained independence has Islam made many inroads down there.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 05:18 PM
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8. I'm surprised that Temple Emanu-El, 5th Ave., NYC, is providing a forum...
Edited on Wed Aug-11-04 05:31 PM by DeepModem Mom
for this man's news conference.

NEWS CONFERENCE DETAILS:

New York:
Time/date: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 11:00 A.M.
Location: Northeast Corner of Fifth Avenue and 65th
Street (Temple Emanu-El)

London:
Time/date: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 4:00 P.M.
Location: 2 Dryden Mansions, Queens Club Gardens
London W14
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 06:11 PM
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10. How very republican.
I am beginning to think that the DNC should produce a series of ads showing the smears the Bush supporters are spewing.
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