Yes, the convention votes for the VP also....BO WILL have to accept Hillary if she wants the job!

[DemVet]

BHO doesn't have a choice: if Hillary wants the #2 spot (which I doubt she does), it's hers.

The convention DOES NOT have to confirm BHO's choice and can vote for whomever they wish. You must remember that just a hair under 50% of the delegates at the convention will be Hillary's.

Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Jimmy Carter, Howard Dean and any other party official doesn't have squat to say about it.

:toast: :beer:

[saltpoint]

1. Senator Obama will make that decision.

[DemVet]

8. Barry couldn't decide on what to have for lunch, let alone his VP

His "handlers" will make the decision for him.

[Jazzgirl]

13. I am finally putting you on ignore.

[Occam Bandage]

15. Once he hits 2026, he controls the floor. He dictates the whole show. If he doesn't want her,

there's nothing she can do about it. There has never been a superdelegate revolt against the same candidate they just nominated President.

[Blondbostonian]

20. You have no idea what you're talking about.

I've been a delegate to the convention. I've worked in Washington as an LA right out of college too.

Your scenario might work in your basement, but here in reality the nominee controls who his VP is. Period the end.

[saltpoint]

21. He has done quite well on his own two feet from early on,

at work and committed to building neighborhoods while Senator Clinton took the Corporate route.

And again, the decision you cite will be Senator Obama's.

[still_one]

26. Gosh, pretty bitter aren't you. The way Hillary has run her campaign, what does that say

about HER decisions

She was the assumed nominee a year ago. She had the political machinery in place, the money, and the party on her side.

That she lost that entire advantage says everything, and that you try to demean Obama as an "empty suit" is just another demonstration how the Clinton camp messed up

Even taking your argument that his "handlers" are the ones to get credit, I guess Hillary's choice of handlers wasn't too good was it?

Another bad judgement on her part along with the IWR and the Kyle/Lieberman ammendment votes

[havocmom]

29. OK, at this point, lots of us are looking forward to the day (soon) when you behave or are gone.

Barry? Isn't that a RW talking point? Was that one of Hillary's suggestions during that conference call?

If you want respect for your candidate, be respectful enough to use the man's name or piss up a

[Joe the Revelator]

2. If Obama has enough delegates to win the nomination, he has enough delegates to control the floor

at the convention. He doesn't have to accept anything he doesn't want.

[Azathoth]

3. So he has enough delegates to get himself nominated, but not enough to nominate his chosen VP?

Wow. Methinks the latest Hillaryite talking points haven't made it out of beta testing yet.

[Renew Deal]

4. This is a fantasy

If Obama chooses a VP, the convention won't override it. It would be too much chaos in the party. Imagine Obama announces that Clark will be his VP and then Hillary decides to fight it at the convention.

BTW, the same reason why Obama will be the nominee is the same reason he gets to choose his VP. He has more votes. If he instructs his delegates to vote for his VP, they will. Hillary doesn't have the votes.

[havocmom]

18. Yep

Somebody recently posted the five stages of grief. That post made a LOT of sense and to help some of us deal with the desperate HRC supporters that do not understand what NO means, here is the list of five stages. It is obvious where a lot of the HRC for VP chanters are in the process. ;)

Five Stages Of Grief

* 1. Denial and Isolation.
* 2. Anger.
* 3. Bargaining.
* 4. Depression.
* 5. Acceptance.

[tokenlib]

5. All of you presume that Hillary will hold her coalition together in defeat...

The convention will not reject Obama's VP pick. They will not force him to pick Hillary. It will not happen.. There are actually reasonable people in the Hillary camp who will not go along with this crap...

There will be defections as Clinton supporters look at the larger picture of McCain and what his election would mean for the country.

[havocmom]

24. Already seeing lots of FORMER HRC supporters who have gone to Obama

Some of her 29%ers seem not to notice that fact and polls showing if Calif voted now, the results would be different. Hell, some of her campaign management team has gone elsewhere, or at least sniffing around for another gig.

HRC has shown some pretty unpleasant facets as this has dragged on, and that has lost her a lot of her former supporters already. I cannot fathom why the desperate wing of her supporters are so deluded about how much power they have. Their belligerence is losing supporters for her as time goes on and they still wanna throw their supposed weight around.

[stray cat]

6. I don't believe it for a minute

[slinkerwink]

7. Obama has more delegates than she does. They'll vote for his VP choice.

[Forkboy]

9. Must....cling...to last....hope.

[ContraBass Black]

10. That's assuming she wins the vote.

As the campaign has already shown, such is not certain.

[DemVet]

12. True enough

[Occam Bandage]

11. Hint: Obama's delegates will vote as he requests, as has always, always happened.

If he doesn't want her, she ain't getting on the ticket.

[GreenEyedLefty]

14. I would imagine they'd ask him first rather than foist someone upon him

Otherwise it wouldn't be a very *Democratic* process.

[Occam Bandage]

19. Not even that. Whoever he declares publicly will be his VP is *going* to be his VP.

If you think the party--including his delegates--are going to humiliate the Democratic nominee by sticking him with someone else three months into the process, you're nuts.

[dkf]

16. Are you really this delusional or are you pulling our legs?

[gristy]

17. And what planet did you come in on this morning?

Golly. Pick this little tidbit up from Newsmax, did we? Better get on the phone to Obama's campaign and let them know to stand down their VP search, since Obama "doesn't have a choice".

[Adelante]

22. Most amusing nt

[H2O Man]

23. "The problem in the world

today is not one of ignorance; it's people knowing so darned much that just isn't so." -- Mark Twain.

[Tinksrival]

25. What a load!

This pic is getting a workout this morning!

[havocmom]

27. Five stages of grief, understanding where you are helps healing

Five Stages Of Grief

* 1. Denial and Isolation.
* 2. Anger.
* 3. Bargaining.
* 4. Depression.
* 5. Acceptance.

[suston96]

28. There is an election after the convention......remember?

Now take the trouble to consider how the popular vote ends up after the primaries are over - no, not who wins it, but the number of Democrats who will have voted for the "losing candidate"?

All those Democratic voters who voted for the "loser" will be needed in the general election to beat the Republicans.

Do I need to use a bouncing ball to explain further?

Oh, and one more thing. All this Hillary hate on this forum as well as other "progressive forums" will come back to haunt the Democratic party. How? In addition to losing the presidency to the Republicans, it may very well affect the congressional elections.

[shraby]

30. No matter how you cut it, under 50% is under

50%..that is not a majority.

[iconicgnom]

31. If the delagates vetoed Obamas choice for VP

it'd be a monumental vote of non-confidence in the very person they've just elected to run for POTUS.
The resulting GE loss would no doubt be of historic proportion, likely being very close to if not absolutely complete.

If Hillary turns her run for POTUS into the kind of floor vote demand for VP that you imagine, I suspect her humiliation after the count would be unbearable.

I can't understand why Hillary's supporters on DU would make this kind of argument, esp. since they're still arguing that Hillary shouldn't concede her campaign for POTUS. Do you see anyone on DU, or anywhere for that matter, arguing that Obama should get the VP slot? There might've been murmurs to that effect months ago, when the outcome was still in doubt, but today there's dead silence on that score. That alone should tell you something.