Help Team Kerry Fight Back: Post your responses to Chimp/whore lies

[John_H]

Judging by many threads here at DU, I'm not the only one who thinks the Rethugs are lying and attacking with even more impunity than usual, and that Kerry isn't hitting back quickly enough or aggressively enough--not even close to the way Team Clinton did to whip poppy in '92.

So let's post some of our favorite Rethug lies, and how Kerry's surrogates might respond if they understood that the Bushes do or say anything to win, and they are always on the attack.

Here's mine re: Kerry committing the sin of nuance.


Judy Woodruff: As the president poited out, John Kerry voted to go to war....

Kerry Surrogate: Excuse me Judy. The RNC may want people to believe that the senate voted for war, but you know that's not true.

Look, we all know George bush has trouble with anything more nuanced than a phone book but the American people understand the difference between voting to go to war and giving the president the authority to go to war if necessary.

The resolution John Kerry voted for wasn't a vote for war. It was a vote telling the president, if you think war is an absolute neceesity, we give you the authority to do it.

And George Bush abused that authority, misled the american people, and now he's trying, like he always does, to blame someone else.

Why is George Bush lying about the resolution? Easy. Because he knows he abused the authority given to him, and he's trying to suck John Kerry and everyone else that voted for it in with him. Trying to get them to share the blame for his eroor in judgement.

[fob]

1. Good idear, and I'll have to come back after some thought, but I have one

suggestion for yours.

Change this line;

The resolution John Kerry voted for wasn't a vote for war. It was a vote telling the president, if you think war is an absolute neceesity, we give you the authority to do it.

To this line;

The resolution John Kerry voted for wasn't a vote for war. It was a vote telling the president, after you exhaust all other methods to solve the issue, we give you the authority to come back to us with the reasons war is the only choice left.

[cynatnite]

2. This Was Some Freak's Futile Attempt To Diagnose Kerry

And are you qualified to make judgments of someone you don’t know intimately?



How did you come to these conclusions?



Cyn:)




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I'm going to sound like a nut, but I constantly think of this one
because it fits Kerry to a "T".

Narcissistic Personality Disorder

There is a great deal more info on this here that sounds like it is
describing Kerry's entire political history and documented
interactions with others, but I just copied the very brief key
elements of this character disorder -
http://www.halcyon.com/jmashmun/npd/dsm-iv.html#npd

1. An exaggerated sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates
achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior
without commensurate achievements)

2. Preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power,
brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

3. Believes he is "special" and can only be understood by, or should
associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

4. Requires excessive admiration

5. Has a sense of entitlement

6. Selfishly takes advantage of others to achieve his own ends

7. Lacks empathy

[DenaliDemocrat]

3. How about

A nice little reply like

"Well, I voted to give the president AUTHORITY to use force if necessary. I believed that was necessary and prudent to give our president such authority to act if it was warranted.

However, I voted under the pretense that when you get to be president of the United States, you have some sense of decency and honor. I assumed that the president of the United States would make decisions to go to war only when he saw no other course of action, and a threat to the United States was real. I believed that no president would ever abuse such awesome power bestowed upon him by the Legislative Brach. Sadly,I was wrong.

Knowing what I know today, I would still vote the same way, because a president SHOULD be able to be trusted to make decisions such as this, and a Congress SHOULD NOT have to question or fear granting such authority to the Commander and Chief of the most powerful military force in the world. The fact that we cannot trust this president is a sad reflection of the state of our Union."

[noamnety]

4. that narcissistic personality disorder ...

... seems to be describing Bush, not Kerry.

1. Exagerates achievements and honors: Served honorably in the National Guard without even showing up, was on a (nonexistent) varsity rugby team.

2. Unlimited power - patriot act, holding prisoners indefinitely, guantanamo, telling people he doesn't have to answer to anyone because he's the president. Self-importance - telling the Amish in Lancaster "God speaks to me."

3. Believes he is special. (see God quote above)

4. Requires excessive admiration (loyalty oaths, if you don't love me you can't be in my presence)

5. Sense of entitlement: legacy admission into Yale (despite telling people now that legacy admittance is wrong), his placement over more qualified people into his National Guard slot.

6. Takes advantage of others to achieve his own ends: McCain, 2000.

7. Lacks empathy. The mocking of the woman on death row would be the classic example.

[AngryLizard]

5. Sounds more like Bush to me

How is it that Kerry lacks empathy? The man went back to rescue a member of his crew and he lacks empathy? Flew up to Boston every weekend to see his kids and he lacks empathy? Bush couldn't even fly to Texas to see his kid when she was in the hospital for knee surgery. Sense of entitlement? Are you kidding me??

I CANNOT STAND THESE PEOPLE!!!