Did you know that if Kerry and Bush tie in the EC, Illinois goes to Bush?

[Walt Starr]

Yep, Under Article II., Section 1., Clause 3. and Amendment XII., if there is nobody with a majority of the electors, the election goes to the House of Representatives where each state gets a single vote.

Under the current makeup of the Illinois Representation in the House, this means George W. Bush would win.

Why, when so much of Illinois is Democratic, would this happen? The answer is simple, Reapportionment. We have nineteen Representatives and ten of those are Republican currently.

There's nothing we can do to change things this year, but we can go a long way to changing things for the 2008 election. We have a Republican Senate candidate who is turning off the moderate wing of the Illinois Republican Party and is firing up the base of the Democratic Party! Every Democrat I know cannot wait to vote FOR Barak Obama while voting AGAINST Alan Keyes in the same move. This means the Republican vote could be extremely diluted in Illinois this year and opens up the opportunity to put some Republican Representatives out of a job.

Wouldn't you love to help give some Republican members of the house, like Henry Hyde, a pink slip? How deliciously karmic for the latest people to suffer from a Bush economy to be his rubber stamps in the House!

You can help. Spread the word about the people whom I'll be posting information about in replies to this post. We have a chance to take many seats from Illinois. Let's work to give Kerry and Edwards a DEMOCRATIC HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES!!!

[Walt Starr]

1. Going up against Judy Biggert is Gloria Andersen

This is the Illinois Thirteenth Congressional District.

A link to her page is here:

Gloria Andersen for Congress, Illinois Thirteenth Congressional District

Gloria Andersen for Congress, Please donate!

Gloria would be my Representative in the House. Please, help get links to her site spread around the web. Donate a sawbuck or more if you are able!

[Kolesar]

2. Where is Hyde's district? eom

[Walt Starr]

3. I'll be adding links in replies to this post all day

Including Henry Hyde's opponent!

Bookmark this thread and you'll get the info, I'm currently sitting on my couch at home. My wife will be down in about two minutes and we need to leave for the train in order to get to work, so it'll be a bit over an hour or two before I get it posted.

[Kolesar]

7. ok, bookmarked! ... eom

[Padraig18]

4. We can possibly flip IL-15, if progressives will help us do so!

We have the best candidate we've had in a long time, Dr. David Gill, a 44 year-old emergency-room physician from Clinton. Dr. Gill needs H-E-L-P, both financial and otherwise, to unsat the neo-con Bush* ass-kisser who currently holds the seat, Rep. Tim "Atilla, the Ferret Face" Johnson.

Please help Dr. Gill. Thank you!

http://davidgillforcongress.com (under re-construction)

:)

[Gore1FL]

5. There is much more to this though

IL, like the other states get one vote in such a scenario, sO IL in and of itself is less inmportant than interms of its normal elector count. Additonally, If IL wne t overwhelmingly Dem, They GOP would spiral furthe rout of existance in that ste because people would be PISSED.

Finally the new congress, would not make the vote, the current one would.

[Walt Starr]

6. Correct, which is why I said we can't change it this year

But we CAN make a difference for the future. As is always the case in Politics, it can take years to get meaningful change.

[THUNDER HANDS]

8. the vote won't be tied this year

Kerry will win by at least 25 EVs.

[Walt Starr]

9. But we need to insure we can correct this for future elections

Hence the need to get Democrats elected to the House during a year when we very well could take several seats!

[THUNDER HANDS]

12. easier said than done

It'll take another 8 years before we can realistically expect to take back the House.

[Walt Starr]

13. But taking it back starts NOW

We have a REAL opportunity in Illinois. It's the Perfect Storm to take some of the Republican held seats!

[DaveinMD]

10. Melissa Bean

will beat Phil Crane

[Walt Starr]

11. Going up against John Shimkus is Tim Bagwell

This is the Illinois Nineteenth Congressional District.

A link to his page is here:

Tim Bagwell for Congress, Illinois Nineteenth Congressional District

Tim Bagwell for Congress, Please donate!

[Dob Bole]

14. lol....Kerry would win Texas!

Aren't there 17 Democrats and 15 Republicans in the Texas house, before redistricting takes effect?

[Beausoleil]

16. Not any more

Ralph Hall is now a Repuke. It's 16 - 16.

[TheStateChief]

19. OK, so I have to ask...

what happens in states where it is tied like Texas (not that I think it will be tied after the election thanks to Delay's rigging the elections there)? What happens if the House vote ends up tied 25-25? Just curious.

[Walt Starr]

20. There will be no vote from that state

Bush would still win this year, however, because he'd get 31 states.

There are currently 5 tied states. 14 are Democratic.

[Walt Starr]

15. Going up against Phil Crane is Melissa Bean

This is the Illinois Eighth Congressional District.

A link to her page is here:

Melissa Bean for Congress, Illinois Eighth Congressional District

Melissa Bean for Congress, Please donate!

[Walt Starr]

17. Going up against Timothy V. Johnson is Dr. David Gill

This is the Illinois Fifteenth Congressional District.

A link to his page is here:

Dr. David Gill for Congress, Illinois Fifteenth Congressional District

Dr. David Gill for Congress, Please donate!

[in_cog_ni_to]

18. Dr. Tari Renner! up against longtime rep Jerry Weller. District 11

I just signed up to go to a Renner Meetup. He's running against Jerry Weller who been a rep FOREVER.

Yesterday I told another lady Dem about the Renner campaign and she "said" she would go to his web site and sign up to help. It would be so SWEET to send Weller packing and "I" will do what I can to help him on his way.

on edit....Here's a link to his site and it's District 11. :hi:

http://www.rennerforcongress.com/pressrelease.asp?RELEASE_ID=9

[Walt Starr]

21. Going up against Jerry Weller is Tari Renner

This is the Illinois Eleventh Congressional District.

A link to his page is here:

Tari Renner for Congress, Illinois Eleventh Congressional District

Tari Renner for Congress, Please donate!

[Walt Starr]

22. Going up against Henry Hyde is Christine Cegelis

This is the Illinois Sixth Congressional District.

A link to her page is here:

Christine Cegelis for Congress, Illinois Sixth Congressional District

Christine Cegelis for Congress, Please donate!

[Hawkeye-X]

23. What are her odds of winning this district?

I don't like Hyde.

[Walt Starr]

24. Actually, pretty good.

Her race was one of the early ones targeted for exposure by Dean.

She's raising a lot of money. If Keyes fatigue coupled with a certain Bush loss in Illinois results in moderate Republicans being discouraged, enough of the Republican vote could be diluted to allow her to win, especially if hard core Dems get out the vote!

[yellowcanine]

27. I would love to see old Henry "Cheatin' Heart" Hyde have to drag his sorry

loser ass back to Illinois and explain to his neighbors why he is such a schmuck.

[Walt Starr]

25. Going up against Mark Steven Kirk is Lee Goodman

This is the Illinois Tenth Congressional District.

A link to his page is here:

Lee Goodman for Congress, Illinois Tenth Congressional District

Lee Goodman for Congress, Please donate!

[Walt Starr]

26. Going up against J. Dennist Hastert is Ruben Zamora

Going up against J. Dennist Hastert is Ruben Zamora

This is the Illinois Fourteenth Congressional District.

A link to his page is here:

Ruben Zamora for Congress, Illinois Fourteenth Congressional District

Ruben Zamora for Congress, Please donate!

[Walt Starr]

28. Going up against Donald A. Manzullo is John Kutsch

This is the Illinois Sixteenth Congressional District.

A link to his page is here:

John Kutsch for Congress, Illinois Sixteenth Congressional District

John Kutsch for Congress, Please donate!

[beyurslf]

29. The House chooses the President... but it is done with the newly elected

House and not the old House. So if IL elects one more D this year, IL would go to Kerry.

That said, R's control something like 32 or 35 states so Bush wins if it is a tie.

[Walt Starr]

30. To get into a position where a tie isn't a republican win

We have to start somewhere. With the perfect storm brewing in Illinois, this is a GREAT place to start!

[Walt Starr]

31. Going up against Ray LaHood is Steve Waterworth

This is the Illinois Eighteenth Congressional District.

A link to his page is here:

Steve Waterworth for Congress, Illinois Eighteenth Congressional District

Steve Waterworth for Congress, Please donate!

[Walt Starr]

32. Kick, just because

:kick: