Are The Democrats Too Nice?

[cynatnite]

I've been listening to Air America and something occured to me. It was brought up that Clinton had a rapid response team to all the crap that was slung at him and Hillary. He went on Tonight Show, Arsenio and many others to answer each and every thing that was aimed at him.

Now we're watching the same thing being done to Kerry and his wife. The problem is after each time we see nothing except for the lies which are sticking to him because they aren't getting out in public and dealing with them.

I rely on reason and facts to argue my points. I don't believe in fighting dirty and giving everyone a fair chance. I believe in playing by the rules.

We get called Bush haters and arguing with the our emotions when we get angry at what's going on. When this happens we don't want to come across that way to the general public so we back down.

Is this the problem with the Democratic Party and the media? Are we being too nice?

Cyn:)

[Cyrano]

1. The problem is still the media

The cable news stations, network news, newspapers, talk radio with the exception of AAR, -- all are giving Bush a pass on everything and jumping on Kerry no matter what he says or does.

He needs a quick response team which doesn't seem to be in place, but he's up against a bigger stacked media deck than Bill Clinton had to deal with in 1992. And this is a huge hurdle to overcome.

[Placebo]

3. Exactly, if I was on TV I don't think i could remain civil...

when debating some of these republicans! Sometimes they get up there and just spew such spin and such total lies I think i would lose it eventually and probably swear and cause the FCC to get involved or at the very least never get invited back on the show!

As a side note, I would love to finally have someone host a show that doesn't allow the guests to just say whatever they want in response to a question, and actually made them ANSWER the question. That goes for democrats as well as republicans.

I hate when they ask a guest about say health care and they respond with a statement about education or iraq! i'd say NO! NO! I AM GOING TO CUT OFF YOUR MIC AND NEVER ALLOW U BACK ON MY SHOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO JUST COME ON TO SAY WHAT YOU WANT. HERE'S HOW IT GOES, I ASK THE QUESTIONS, AND YOU GIVE AN ANSWER THAT ACTUALLY ANSWERS THE QUESTION, NOT, I ASK A QUESTION AND YOU GET A MINUTE OF UNINTERRUPTED AIRTIME TO SAY WHATEVER U WANT ABOUT ANYTHING YOU LIKE.

[cprise]

5. It's their network

They are in control and can cut you off or ridicule you any way they see fit. They know just what to do when people "go off" on them.

The FCC is run by people appointed by politicians whose careers are financed by private corporations. They won't help you.

Television isn't there to serve you and I. It is there to talk at us and to condition us to respond in certain ways to authority and salesmen. Actually thats what a US president is these days: A salesman for the corporate world order.

[sangh0]

2. It would help

is you were to post some facts to back up some of your more ridiculous assertions.

For one thing, Clinton's rapid response team was disbanded once he won the election in 1992. Secondly, you rarely heard Clinton refuting those lies on the campaign trail. It was his rapid response team that answered the reporter's questions, just as Kerry's team is answering the reporters questions. And BTW, Kerry not only has a rapid response team; He also has a rapid response web site.

YOu might also want support your claim that the Repukes lies are sticking. Aside from the flip-flopping charge, which only seems to have stuck with repukes who were lost to us anyway, I don't see any of the lies sticking.

I rely on reason and facts to argue my points.

Let me know when you're ready to post those facts. I'd like to see if I've missed anything.

SO were the Democrats "too nice" when they refused to confirm any of Bush* radical right-wing judges to the Fed CT of Appeals? Were the Democrats "too nice" when they defeated Bush*'s efforts to make his tax cuts permanent? Were they "too nice" when they defeated the constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage?

[cynatnite]

7. Too Nice?

You made some good points and no, I didn't research on this at all. I didn't know about the rapid response site until you mentioned it. I was curious about if we're too nice when it comes to refuting these lies which seems to continually to drag out.

From what I've seen, and I'm relying on what I see on TV and read, it just seems like the objective media has bent over backwards, too much, to show the right that they're fair, but I think they've taken it too far.

Whenever a story is aired not showing the administration or other repubs in a good light, the name 'liberal media' gets thrown around.

I just felt that it seems like the media and other dems are trying to be fair to the right so much that it's hurting us and everyone else especially when these lies just won't go away after they're disputed.

Cyn:)

[Democat]

4. Yes, the current party is too nice and too willing to turn the other cheek

It will take years, but hopefully we can replace the current elected officials with ones that are more willing to fight for us.

[The Hair in my Nose]

6. We get called Bush haters

Aren't we ???

...or is it just me ???

[cynatnite]

8. I Don't

I don't hate Bush. I was raised to be a good christian, which I'm not anymore, and taught not to hate anyone. I think it's a useless emotion. That's not to say I don't get pissed. I don't know Bush personally so I can't say if I'd like him or not if I ever met him. I don't like his policies and I think he's a lousy president.

Cyn:)

[volosong]

9. Fire with Fire

I'm afraid that Kerry-Edwards are hallucinating that they can conduct this campaign in a positive, intellectual manner.

It ain't going to happen and isn't happening.

I think that you can be very aggressive and yet still be civil and polite.

If Kerry doesn't wake up and take the fight to Bush I fear for the outcome. Bush is making Kerry dance like a puppet on a string. It is giving the impression to those that don't know Kerry that he is weak, indecisive, and not "in control."

I don't believe that Kerry can win the election unless he goes on the offensive and hammers at Bush exposing the truth about his administration and holding Bush accountable before the American people.

The longer Kerry waits to launch a campaign for "truth and justice for the American people," the less likely he will win.

[goodhue]

10. no

too timid perhaps