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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 11:21 PM
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I posted to the swiftjerks forum
This is a small portion of what I said:

<<One final factor which I feel is important to make. The Navy gave Kerry these awards. If they felt he did not deserve them, they would never have given them to him. If it was proven that he had lied in recieving any of them, they can strip him of these medals. To date, I have not seen anyone go through the official channels of the military. I can't think of a worse thing to happen to a veteran than to have their medals stripped from them.>>

The first reply was:

<<Moderators!! another Kerry billboard from the sheep. Semper Fi.>>


And no, I'm not surprised. I'm waiting for my posted to get removed.

Cyn:)
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 11:27 PM
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1. Where's that board? I wanna post, too!
;)
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 11:37 PM
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2. SwiftVets are basically accusing Admiral Zumwalt of LYING
I'm sure the great Admiral made sure of the veracity of Silver Star Commendations he was signing.



COMMANDER
UNITED STATES NAVAL FORCES
VIETNAM

The President of the United States takes pleasure in presenting the Silver Star Medal to:

JOHN FORBES KERRY
LIEUTENANT JUNIOR GRADE
UNITED STATES NAVAL RESERVE

For service as set forth in the following:

CITATION

“For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving as Officer in Charge of United States Navy Patrol Craft Fast 94 and Officer in Tactical Command of an operation in the Republic of Vietnam. On 28 February 1969, Patrol Craft Fast 23, 43 and 94, in conjunction with Underwater Demolition Team 13 and Vietnamese Regional and Popular Forces personnel, conducted an operation on the Ca Mau Peninsula as part of Operations SEA LORDS. While transiting the Bay Hap River en route to an insertion point along the Dong Cung River, these craft with thirty Regional/Popular Force personnel embarked in each unit came under heavy enemy small arms fire from the river banks. The Officer in Tactical Command, Lieutenant (junior grade) KERRY directed his units to turn to the beach and charge the Viet Cong positions. Lieutenant (junior grade) KERRY expertly directed the fire of his craft at the fleeing enemy while simultaneously coordinating the insertion of the embarked troops. While the Regional and Popular Forces conducted an area sweep, Patrol Craft Fast 43 remained on station to provide fire support and Patrol Craft Fast 23 and 94 moved upstream to investigate an area from which gunshots were coming. Arriving at the area, Lieutenant (junior grade) KERRY’s craft received a B-40 rocket close aboard. Once again Lieutenant (junior grade) KERRY ordered his units to charge the enemy positions and summoned Patrol Craft Fast 43 to the area to provide additional firepower. Patrol Craft Fast 94 then beached in the center of the enemy positions and an enemy solider sprang up from his position not ten feet from Patrol Craft Fast 94 and fled. Without hesitation Lieutenant (junior grade) KERRY leaped ashore, pursued the man behind ahoochh and killed him, capturing a B-40 rocket launcher with a round in the chamber. Lieutenant (junior grade) KERRY then led an assault party and conducted a sweep of the area while the Patrol Craft Fast continued to provide fire support. After the enemy had been completely routed, all personnel returned to the Patrol Craft Fast to withdraw from the area. While backing off the beach, these units again came under a hail of fire, this time from the opposite river bank. Lieutenant (junior grade) KERRY immediately coordinated the firepower of his units and suppressed the enemy fire. Later, after disembarking personnel and while exiting from the Bay Hap River, the Patrol Craft Fast were again taken under fire. Lieutenant (junior grade) KERRY immediately maneuvered his craft through several strafing runs which completely silenced the enemy. As a result of this operation, the Viet Cong were killed and one wounded with no friendly casualties. In addition, numerous sampans, structures and bunkers were destroyed as well as confiscation of substantial quantities of combat essential supplies. Lieutenant (junior grade) KERRY devotion to duty, courage under fire, outstanding leadership, and exemplary professionalism directly contributed to the success of this operation and were in keeping with the highest traditions of the United States Naval Service.”

For the President


E.R. ZUMWALT, Jr.
Vice Admiral, U.S. Navy
Commander U.S. Naval Forces, Vietnam
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 11:41 PM
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3. good one
ask them WHY ONeill, like that disciple in that mythology book, DENIED that Corsi was a co-author

ask them WHY he did that

ask them what they think about Corsi's exTREMEly homophobic/racist comments at freeperville

just for starters

if ONeill can't even tell the truth about with whom he wrote the BOOK, how can one believe one SINGLE thing IN it?

huh?
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 11:45 PM
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4. I got banned
They not only removed my post in order so others wouldn't read it, but they also banned me.

I'm such a trouble maker :headbang:

Oh, well. I know how I'm voting with no doubts in my heart and soul. I have no doubts that Kerry served with complete honor. I know that Bush has ruined this country and the repugs are desperate.

Kerry/Edwards has a loyal vet here all the way. I'm here for the duration.

Cyn:)
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 11:53 PM
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6. where is that place?
I want!

I wear my dad's tag from WWII

he had one of his buns blown off on a bridge in Belgium

lying, cowardly FUXSTIX!

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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 11:50 PM
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5. Care to provide a LINK?
That would help.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 11:53 PM
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7. Link
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 11:54 PM
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8. Thank you!
Edited on Thu Aug-12-04 12:02 AM by janx
.

Edit: I checked it out. The American people are so damned tired of this.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 12:13 AM
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10. Sorry, but that was a waste of time. n/t
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mellowinman Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 12:01 AM
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9. I just signed up as Swiftvet_for_a_great_man
My signature says "Kerry will be our next president. I am so proud to be voting for him. Bush is a piece of crap."

I'm guessing they never approve my membership.

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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 12:19 AM
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11. My understanding is that the webmaster for swiftvets is a Freeper. Really
Literally, part of the FR organization. Given that fact, and that it's a blatant political tool of the Bush campaign, I wouldn't expect any pro Kerry sentiment to be allowed.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:29 AM
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12. If you're not already banned...
...post and ask if O'Neill and any of the other guys if they deserved the medals that THEY got.

Question their service. Tell them O'Neill got a Purple Heart for a splinter. Hit 'em out of left field.

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michigandem2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:45 AM
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13. I think we all need to just ask the same damn question..
and where was GWB again????
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Keirsey Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:58 AM
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14. they gave up on DU after only one day

"Hand-wringing, teeth-gnashing, and wailing over on DU"

http://www.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2285
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Keirsey Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:23 AM
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15. Swift Boat Veterans Refuse to Open Their Own Records
In the beginning...

This forum wasn't deleting anti-Bush comments:

As a vet, I know the importance of performance reports. As far as I know, Kerry has released all of his. In contrast, Fearful Leader has released only those from his early years of service and none from his last, and quite questionable, 18 months of service.

For the sake of fairness, I think this organization would demonstrate its honesty and impartiality by demanding the release of those records as well.


agree with the above. Our Leader should release all of his records including any that have to do with discipline or the reason for hie grounding. That'll show the Kerryites. They'll see that while Kerry was lying around in a hospital doing nothing but recovering from wounds inflicted by the Viet Cong, Our Leader was working undercover seaching for communist infiltrators in bars and brothels across the South (emphasis mine).


http://www.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=46

Note: I've only read through, and quoted from, the first page of this seven-page thread.
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