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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:27 PM
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Is it appropriate to call for an arrest of one Rupert Murdoch and one Liz Trotta
for treason and high crimes?

Hawkeye-X
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:28 PM
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1. I think it's appropriate to call for some attention
from law enforcement. Obama is a candidate for president, under the protection of the Secret Service and a United States Senator.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:30 PM
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2. Hopefully Liz Trotta will be fired by the end of today, and fined by the FCC.
Murdoch should personally apologise on TV, and promise to shut down such talk, lest he suffer legal consequences.

FOX News should be fined a million dollars too.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:31 PM
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4. She won't be fined by The FCC.
The FCC only fines you for naughty words and naked titties.

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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:35 PM
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9. Isn't threatening a public official worthy of a fine too?
I could swear that it's not just "bad words" that are
subject to fines -- also making threats, the equivalents
of shouting "fire" in a theatre, etc. (??).
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:54 PM
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17. Nope. n/t
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:31 PM
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3. Can someone who is not a U.S. Citizen be tried for Treason? n/t
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:35 PM
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7. Actually he IS a US Citizen (dual citizen)
Otherwise he would not be allowed to own Faux here in the US.

Hawkeye-X
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:52 PM
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15. I didn't know he was.
I think his ex-pat status and other actions should be grounds for revoking his citizenship.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:54 PM
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16. And for the record, it was Bill Clinton who allowed him to do it, IIRC. n/t
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:35 PM
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8. No, they can't
Edited on Sun May-25-08 04:36 PM by dems_rightnow
Treason is "a citizen's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the parent nation." So, by definition a non-citizen can't commit treason against the US, as they "owe" no loyalty.

Edited to indicate that I have no idea if Murdoch is a US citizen.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:36 PM
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10. Right -- they're terrorists
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:37 PM
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11. That's certainly closer!
;-)
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:41 PM
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12. Yeah, he is
Edited on Sun May-25-08 04:41 PM by nxylas
He took on US citizenship purely to be able to buy media here and interfere with American politics. Most other countries aren't as sensible about letting non-citizens do that - that's why he's able to meddle in British politics, for example, despite not being a British citizen.

(edit: typo)
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:33 PM
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5. I think some action needs to happen. An FCC big ass fine for Murdoch and firing for the other.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:34 PM
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6. I think that Ruppert Murdoch should get his visa revoked at least.
He is a resident of Beijing, China, and his actions through his media ownership in this country is surely treasonous IMHO. He should be forced to sell his American assets and not allowed in the country again for anti-American activities, a status that I believe we gave to Fidel Castro for far less in anti-American activities. I dunno about Liz Trotta. I don't know who she is but no doubt she proliferates in places I don't go to.
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KSinTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:42 PM
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13. The word you're looking for is *sedition*
Edited on Sun May-25-08 04:43 PM by KSinTX
mainly because he is a sitting senator.

Sedition is a term of law which refers to covert conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority as tending toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel.

Sedition is more about encouraging the people to rebel, where treason is actually betraying the country.

Edited to add: Either way it would be a tough case to make.
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:46 PM
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14. Have done a search
cannot find out what Liz said...clue me in!!! Please
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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:58 PM
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18. Here's the digusting clip, benddem.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 05:14 PM
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19. I hope they put her ass in a holding tank for the holiday weekend
and give her non stop lectures about journalistic responsibility, crazy people and dog whistles.
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