I want KERRY and his ORGANIZATION to follow Lautenberg's example:

[LittleApple81]

quick, decisive responses to all the BULLSHIT, calumny, misstaments, sewer biproducts produced by the republicans.
Lautenberg IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. Not a tutu democrat. A democrat with courage!!!!! WOW.

OK. OK. OK. NOW HOW CAN YOU NOT FOLLOW LAUTENBERG'S EXAMPLE??? WHAT IS YOUR EXCUSE, KERRY CAMPAIGN!!!!!

[sangh0]

1. Who do you think got Lautenberg to say that?

.

[WilliamPitt]

3. No no no, don't bother with strategy. The Kery people are WRONG!!!!

or something.

:)

[depakid]

11. The point people are trying to make

is that Kerry is following a losing "strategy" of non-responding and giving Bush a pass. To my knowledge, no one has come out and explained why it will work this time when it's failed so often in the past...:shrug:

[JI7]

14. the point is he ISN'T following a strategy of non responding

the people make claims that are not true. this poster of the thread said the kerry campaign should follow lautenberg. but the lautenberg words came FROM THE KERRY CAMPAIGN. he is part of the campaign and they are working together.

[depakid]

18. I hope you're right

but thus far, the evidence is that non-responding HAS been the modus operandi. If this signals a change, that's welcome news- but I'm not convinced. I've seen this from people like Tad Devine too many times.

[sangh0]

23. And the other point - KERRY IS NOT LOSING

He is ahead in national polls, and ahead in the swing states. He's even ahead in states that went for Bush* in 2000.

[sangh0]

24. Here's Kerry not responding

Kerry Campaign: Halliburton Goes for Gold - In Scandal Pentathlon
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=133-08 ...

Kerry-Edwards 2004 Releases Fact Sheet on Bush-Cheney Ad
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=134-08 ...

White House Again Refuses to Condemn Blatantly False Ad, Says Kerry-Edwards 2004
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=144-08 ...

Statement from Kerry Advisor Rand Beers on President's Remarks in Florida
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=137-08 ...

Statement by John Kerry on the Selection of Porter Goss to be Director of CIA
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=136-08 ...

Kerry-Edwards 2004 Fact Sheet: George Bush's Failed Fiscal Policies
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=119-08 ...

Kerry-Edwards 2004 Releases Report: Bush's Failed Fiscal Policies; Former Treasury Secretary to Discuss Report on 11:30 a.m. Call
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=117-08 ...

Kerry-Edwards: Committed to Ensuring Nevada Does Not Become A Nuclear Waste Repository
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=108-08 ...

Kerry-Edwards 2004 Releases Bush-Cheney Ad Fact Check: "Ownership"
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=133-08 ...

Kerry-Edwards Campaign Response to Bush Radio Address
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=104-08 ...

Kerry Campaign Response to Latest Misleading Bush-Cheney Ad - 'Clockwork'
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=146-08 ...

Kerry-Edwards 2004 Fact Sheet: Aug. 6 Anniversary -- Three Years Later, Problems Still Exist
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=131-08 ...

Kerry Statement on Latest Jobs Numbers
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=124-08 ...

Kerry-Edwards 2004: Halliburton Fined for Accounting Gimmicks While Cheney was CEO
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=140-08 ...

Kerry-Edwards Fact Sheet: Dick Cheney's Legislative Accomplishments ... Both of Them
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=142-08 ...

Kerry Campaign: George W. Bush - We Agree, Results Matter
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=125-08 ...

Kerry Campaign Reality Check: White House Claims on Implementing 9/11 Commission Recommendations
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=122-08 ...

Did He Really Say That? -- Kerry-Edwards Campaign Comment on Remarks by Sen. Zell Miller on 'Meet The Press'
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=103-08 ...


more: http://www.usnewswire.com/topnews/current.htm

[sangh0]

25. Here;s more Kerry NOT responding

Kerry Criticizes Bush for Space Vision
http://www.space.com/spacenews/kerry_040616.html

Kerry criticizes Bush on military record
http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/26kerry.html

Kerry criticizes Bush for failed policies
http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/8202438.htm...

NPR : Kerry Criticizes Bush on Iraq
http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1842198

USATODAY.com - Kerry criticizes Bush on Iraq, treatment of U.S. veterans
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/2003-08-...

Yahoo! News - Kerry Criticizes Bush's Military Policy
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/200...

Kerry Criticizes Bush's Iraq Policy (phillyBurbs.com)
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/32-03182004-2664...

Kerry Criticizes Bush Policy On Haiti
http://www.mattapanonline.org/Kerry_on%20Haiti.htm

Report: Kerry Criticizes Bush Foreign Policy
http://www.evote.com/News/EV05202002B.html

washingtonpost.com: Kerry Criticizes President, Then Undergoes Surgery
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A40572-2004Mar...

KSL News: Kerry Criticizes Bush Over Gay Marriage
http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?sid=77296&nid=6

ABC 7 News - Kerry Criticizes Bush on U.S. Security
http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0304/132238.html

Democratic Underground Forums - Kerry Criticizes Bush's Definition of Values
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

washingtonpost.com: Kerry Criticizes Bush For Attacks on Clarke
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A29991-2004Mar...

Kerry Criticizes Bush for Red Carpet Expense
http://www.townhall.com/news/politics/200406/POL2004061...

Yahoo! News - Kerry Criticizes Bush on Saudi Meeting
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&e=7...

RightNation.US -> Kerry Criticizes Bush for Red Carpet Expense
http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=42...

Kerry criticizes Bush for siding with drug companies in new ad
http://www.wtvo.com/Global/story.asp?S=1533926

USATODAY.com - Kerry criticizes Bush on meeting with Saudi leader
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/p...

SignOnSanDiego.com > News > Politics -- Kerry criticizes Bush's Daytona 'photo opportunity'
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20040216-14...

Kerry criticizes Bush on Iraq, treatment of U.S. veterans
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archi...

SignOnSanDiego.com > News > Politics -- Kerry criticizes Bush over oil report
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20040419-15...

FOXNews.com - You Decide 2004 - Kerry Criticizes Bush, Cheney on Military
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C118380%2C00.htm...

ABC 7 News - Kerry Criticizes Bush for Bioethics Panel
http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0204/129618.html

Kerry criticizes U.S. oil policies during Seattle campaign swing
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/175067_kerrystate.h...

AP Wire | 07/10/2003 | Kerry Criticizes Bush on Education
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/62...

FOXNews.com - You Decide 2004 - Kerry Criticizes 'Separate and Unequal' Schools
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C120098%2C00.htm...

Kerry criticizes Bush on nuclear threat, outlines plan to slow spread
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/8812087.htm?...

AP Wire | 03/17/2004 | Kerry criticizes Bush for failed policies
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/8202438.htm

AP Wire | 03/14/2003 | Kerry Criticizes Bush on Diplomacy
http://www.dfw.com/mld/state/5388491.htm

KTVU.com - Politics - Kerry Criticizes 'Saudi-George Bush' Gas Tax
http://www.ktvu.com/politics/3346936/detail.html

News-Leader.com | True Ozarks | Kerry criticizes Bush on stem-cell, science policies
http://www.news-leader.com/_tuesday/0622-Kerrycriti-117...

Kerry criticizes Bush over gay marriage, broken promises after winning three more states
http://www.freep.com/news/latestnews/pm18597_20040225.h...

The Seattle Times: Kerry criticizes Bush's record on jobs, health care, terror
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/text/2001863810_campai...

The Seattle Times: Kerry criticizes firing of worker over photo
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/text/2001912775_iraqdi...

Kerry Campaign Criticizes Those Who Defend 'Outsourcing'
http://www.townhall.com/news/politics/200407/POL2004070...

KRT Wire | 07/15/2004 | Kerry criticizes Bush for rejection of NAACP invite
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/politics/9165213.htm

KR Washington Bureau | 07/16/2004 | Kerry criticizes Bush for intelligence failures in Iraq
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/9174072.htm

KRT Wire | 03/17/2004 | Kerry Criticizes Bush for Failing to Protect Troops in Iraq
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/business/national/...

KSAT.com - News - Kerry Criticizes Bush During Speech In S.A.
http://www.ksat.com/news/2430649/detail.html

Capitol Hill Watch | Sen. Kerry Criticizes Wait List for Veterans Seeking Health Services
http://www.kaisernetwork.org/daily_reports/rep_index.cf...

The Salt Lake Tribune -- Kerry criticizes Bush for failing to rally more allies
http://www.sltrib2002.com/2004/Jun/06292004/nation_w/17...

t r u t h o u t - Senator Kerry Criticizes U.S. Tactics
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/9174072.htm

Kerry Criticizes Bush on 9/11 Response lans to Reimburse Familes for Body Armor
http://www.blog.johnkerry.com/cgi-bin/mt-comments.cgi?e...

ABC13.com: John Kerry makes stop in Houston; criticizes Pres. Bush
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/news/042204_local_kerry.htm...

KRT Wire | 12/03/2002 | Kerry proposes tax cuts, criticizes Bush tax policy
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/46579...

[sangh0]

26. More Kerry NOT responding

MSNBC - Kerry rips ‘character assassination’ of Clarke
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4615144

Democrat Kerry Still Critical of Bush Administration -- 12/14/2003
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page= \Politics\archive\200312\POL20031214a.html

NPR : Kerry Critical of Bush's Iraq Plans
http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1837708

SignOnSanDiego.com > News > Politics -- Bush aides tout job growth, but Kerry critical
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/federal/200...

Kerry Says US Needs Its Own 'Regime Change'
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0403-08.htm

Kerry Responds to Combat Injury Questions (phillyBurbs.com)
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/32-04212004-2866...

John Kerry Responds To Draft Dodging GOP
http://www.bushalert.com/news/95

Lean Left: Kerry Responds with Ads
http://www.leanleft.com/archives/002883.html

ContraCostaTimes.com | 03/13/2004 | Kerry responds to Bush attack ad
http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/news/817793...

NBC11.com - Politics - Kerry Responds To Charges He Tossed War Medals
http://www.nbc11.com/politics/3228428/detail.html

U.S. Newswire - Kerry Campaign Responds to Revised Terror Report
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=140-06...

swisspolitics.org | Kerry responds to Bush video
http://www.swisspolitics.org/en/news/index.php?section=...

KTVU.com - Politics - New Kerry Ad Responds To Bush's Claims
http://www.ktvu.com/politics/2919181/detail.html

Kerry Campaign Responds to White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan Attacks ::
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_031...

MSNBC - Kerry blasts Bush over attacks on Senate voting record
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4344203

Kerry Attacks Bush's Military Policies
http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/news2004/...

Kerry Attacks Bush Foreign Policy
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/text5-28-2004-54778.as...

Kerry attacks Bush on foreign policy
http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/8461907.htm...

IHT: Kerry attacks Bush on schools
http://www.iht.com/articles/518430.html

ABCNEWS.com : Kerry Attacks Bush Energy Policy
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/DailyNews/kerry...

CNN.com - Kerry hits Bush reaction to 9/11 attack news - Aug 5, 2004
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/05/kerry.911

Kerry Attacks Bush On Tepid Jobs Growth
http://www.turkishpress.com/turkishpress/news.asp?ID=23...

WYTV - Kerry Attacks Bush in Valley Speech
http://www.wytv.com/news/headlines/698977.html

Kerry again attacks Bush administration
http://www.eagletribune.com/news/stories/20030426/FP_00...

John Kerry Attacks Bush on Stem Cell Research Policy
http://www.catholicexchange.com/vm/index.asp?vm_id=31&a...

Herald.com | 04/06/2004 | Kerry attacks Bush's spending
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/politics/8364...

FOXNews.com - You Decide 2004 - Kerry Attacks Bush Compassionate Conservatism
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C122688%2C00.htm...

The Left Coaster: Kerry Attacks Bush on Iraq, Veterans Issues At VFW Convention
http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/000507.html

Kerry presses attacks on Bush
http://www.indystar.com/articles/0/160393-5460-093.html

Yahoo! News - Kerry Attacks Bush's Record on Defending Homeland
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=615&e=2...

Portsmouth Herald Local News: Kerry attacks aimed at Bush
http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/02172004/news/351.ht...

KTVU.com - Politics - Kerry Attacks Bush's Conduct Of War
http://www.ktvu.com/politics/3016233/detail.html

Kerry attacks Bush on science - (United Press International)
http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20040621-012423-2...

FOXNews.com - Politics - Kerry Attacks Bush While Defending Iraq Resolution Vote
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C92547%2C00.html

ABCNEWS.com : Kerry Sharpens Attacks Against Iraq War
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20040618_118.html

Democratic Underground Forums - Kerry remembers Kennedy, attacks Bush
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

The Seattle Times: National politics: Kerry attacks Bush as divisive president
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationalpolitics/...

Kerry Attacks Bush On Education, Affirmative Action at Brown Anniversary Ceremony -- GOPUSA
http://www.gopusa.com/news/2004/may/0518_brown_annivers...

RobBernard.com: Kerry attacks Bush team as "crooked" and liars
http://www.robbernard.com/archives/000990.html

Yahoo! News - Kerry attacks Bush terror policy after new al-Qaeda warning
http://article.wn.com/link/WNAT8D4D3C000A7949799ABB344C...

USATODAY.com - Kerry blasts Bush over attacks on record
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/p...

Kerry Campaign Attacks Cheney re: Halliburton
http://www.the-hamster.com/mtype/archives/001379.html

Kerry Sprinkles Jobs Message With Attacks on Iraq Policy
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A195-2004Apr9?...

AP Wire | 12/02/2002 | Kerry Steps Up Attacks on Bush Policies
http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/4644529.htm

Kerry report attacks Bush for the loss of U.S. jobs
http://www.newsisfree.com/click/i%2C41285835%2C3952%2Cr...

[depakid]

31. Dukakis wasn't losing either

in fact, he had a much larger lead at this point, 18 points, as i recall, and theough his non-responding, he let it all slip away.

Cite me all the instances you want- they don't mean shit if they're not getting out there- if perceptions are being formed in people's minds- which they are. The same exact process was at play and worked effectively against Gore in 2000.

The Kerry voted for 300 some odd tax increases- the flip flopper thing- those stuck. Why? because Kerry's camp didn't adequately respond to them in kind and in time. Even his service record is coming under attack, which is absurd- but at least that one is receiving some derision- from Kerry's surrogates.

The good news is that there's still time to mount a more aggressive campaign- the bad news is that it looks like there's a sort of group think in the Kerry camp that seems to have difficulty recognizing that lies, distortions and labels have a history of working...

And despite what I hear from all of the apologists, there's little justification for believing that they won't work again.

[sangh0]

32. Breaking News

Kerry isn't Dukakis and Gore won the election by 500,000 votes

ANd as far as "Kerry's not responding" I suggestyou check out posts #24, - 26, which for some reason, you haven't responded to

[depakid]

33. Wake up and smell the coffee

The dynamics of the race- the process- is the same. Gore shouldn't have even been in a position to have had the election stolen- and wouldn't have been, had he not allowed the media to form and reinforce false and misleading public perceptions.

[bigtree]

34. I guess it is irrelevant that Kerry is leading Bush at the same moment

that you are deriding his campaign.

[depakid]

35. Did I say it was irrelevant?

No. I said that this type of "strategy" has failed before, resulting in at least one presidential candidate losing a commanding lead- and eventually the election.

[bigtree]

38. No candidate has been in this good position at this point in the election

against an incumbent. Especially a 'war president'. Methinks you protest too much.

What really gets me is the view that Bush is running a more effective campaign with the insults and lies. I don't see it. It doesn't comport with my notion of what's important to the American voter. I think that Kerry's focus on jobs and the economy this week will generate more support than Bush and Cheney's snarky one liners.

[depakid]

40. Like i said I hope you're right

Unfortunately, it hasn't played out that way in prior elections. Repeating distortions and deception is effective- look how many people still believe Cheney's lies about Iraq/Al Qaeda/9-11.

The only way to dispel this sort propaganda is to meet it head on, repeatedly, before it becomes ingrained in public perception.

[CarolynEC]

4. Good example of deploying our allies!

As you point out, it's the campaign drawing on supporters to help shape the national dialogue. Very encouraging to see this.

[rkc3]

5. True, but a few words like that from Kerry would go a looooong way.

[JI7]

8. Kerry has said more than a few words like that himself

[JI7]

7. hhahahah

just what i was thinking. i remember another time someone posted something from the kerry campaign and it said specifically it was from the kerry campaign with the link from his website also.

and then someone responded by saying kerry needs to use this to go after bush.

[DoBotherMe]

2. The statement was issued from the Kerry campaign

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=138-08122004

[Nite Owl]

6. Lautenberg is

part of the quick response team set up by the Kerry people. This is it in action.

[bigtree]

9. A full two days before Cheney's attack:

Kerry Campaign: Deeply Held Convictions - The Cheney Flip-Flops

To: National Desk, Political Reporter

Contact: Chad Clanton or Phil Singer, 202-464-2800, both of Kerry-Edwards 2004; Web: http://www.johnkerry.com

WASHINGTON, Aug. 11 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Following was released by Kerry-Edwards 2004:

Today, Cheney Was Quick To Criticize Kerry's "Deeply Held Convictions" But He Has Failed To Explain Why He Has Taken Positions On Both Sides of Key Issues.

Kerry spokesman Phil Singer: "Dick Cheney is out of credibility and is representing a campaign that is so desperate it will say anything to distract attention from a record that has made the country less safe and secure. The fact is that George Bush has overseen an economy that has lost a million jobs, seen deficits hit record highs and watched health care and other household expenses hit new heights. John Kerry knows we can do better and has a plan to make America stronger at home and respected in the world."

THEN: Cheney Strongly Opposed Taking Out Saddam In 1991

Cheney Had No Regrets On Keeping Saddam In Power In 1991-US Would Have Had To Do It Alone.

Cheney Said "We Got It Right" By Leaving Saddam In Power. , and I do today." (Meet the Press, 8/27/00, emphasis added)

NOW: Cheney Says Saddam Would Still Be In Power Under Kerry But In

Cheney Criticized Kerry For Voting For Weapons Cuts.

Cheney Proposed The Cuts For Which He Now Criticizes Kerry

Cheney Recommended Termination of Apache Program.

-- Cheney Proposed Cutting F-14 Aircraft.

-- Cheney Proposed the Cuts For Which He Now Blames Kerry.

In Gay Marriage-

Cheney in 2000: "It's Really No One Else's Business...I Don't Think There Should Necessarily Be a Federal Policy in This Area."

Cheney in 2004: "I Will Support Whatever Decision He Makes."

Cheney Flip-Flopped On Sanctions

Cheney Was a Staunch Critic of Sanctions

Cheney Opposed Sanctions Because They Hurt Halliburton.

Cheney Advocated Easing Sanctions Against Libya, Iran, and Syria.

While Vice President, Imposed and Renewed Sanctions Those Countries

Cheney's Administration Imposed Sanctions on Syria.

Cheney's Administration Renewed Sanctions Against Iran and Libya.

Cheney's Administration Renewed Sanctions Against Sudan.

Cheney Flip-Flopped On Deficits

Cheney Was Once a Deficit Hawk

1982: Cheney Supported The Largest Tax Hike In Peacetime History.

1982: Cheney Backed A Balanced Budget Amendment.

1984: Cheney Backed GOP's 1985 Budget Plan That Cut Defense Spending And Raised Taxes.

1984: Cheney Voted For The Deficit Act of 1984, Which Increased Taxes.

Now, Cheney Ignores the Skyrocketing Deficit

Cheney: "Deficits Don't Matter." "Reagan proved deficits don't matter...

Bush-Cheney Inherited Projected Ten-Year Surplus Of $5.6 Trillion.

Cheney Flip-Flopped On Education

Cheney Strongly Opposed Creation of Department of Education

Details: http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=150-08...


Kerry Campaign: Deeply Held Convictions - The Cheney Flip-Flops


To: National Desk, Political Reporter

Contact: Chad Clanton or Phil Singer, 202-464-2800, both of Kerry-Edwards 2004; Web: http://www.johnkerry.com

WASHINGTON, Aug. 11 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Following was released by Kerry-Edwards 2004:

Today, Cheney Was Quick To Criticize Kerry's "Deeply Held Convictions" But He Has Failed To Explain Why He Has Taken Positions On Both Sides of Key Issues.

Kerry spokesman Phil Singer: "Dick Cheney is out of credibility and is representing a campaign that is so desperate it will say anything to distract attention from a record that has made the country less safe and secure. The fact is that George Bush has overseen an economy that has lost a million jobs, seen deficits hit record highs and watched health care and other household expenses hit new heights. John Kerry knows we can do better and has a plan to make America stronger at home and respected in the world."

Details: http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=150-08...

[leeman67]

10. Great response, but 2 days IS too long..

They should have information like this ready to go at any given moment. Just because they are trying to take the high road doesn't mean they shouldn't be ready to attack back immediately when they are attacked (which will be often the closer we get to election, and the more Kerry continues to lead at the polls). This was how Clinton was so successful running against Bush Sr. in '92. The Bushies are always dirty campaigners and Clinton just fed it right back to them in a way no one else ever had, or has since.

[bigtree]

12. What are you talking about?

The date of the release is yesterday. There is another response today. The Kerry team was ahead of Cheney. I don't know how they could do better. What a crock to claim that they weren't on top of this. THEY DID RESPOND IMMEDIATELY!

DID YOU NOT WAIT TO HEAR KERRY'S IMMEDIATE RESPONSE ABOUT bUSH'S ARROGANCE?

[leeman67]

16. then I stand corrected.

and blame the media of course for not publicizing Kerry's response.

[sangh0]

27. Yes, you made the mistake, but it's "the media's" fault

for not publicizing. I guess you publicized it, right? Even though you didn't even KNOW about it, right? Even though it was right on Kerry's website, right? It's the media's fault you didn't look on Kerry's website, right?

[leeman67]

29. Relax and chill a bit dude (or dudette)...

I'm on your side. Most Americans aren't aware of what's on Kerry's website unless the Media calls attention to it. I'm agreeing with your original point now. I'm only saying that it's unfortunate I wasn't aware of his response because I don't check his website every day. I shouldn't have to. The average voter is only hearing Bush's attacks and not Kerry's responses. That's the point I'm making.

[sangh0]

30. You're right about one thing - You shouldn't have to

Unfortunately, in times like these, you DO "have to" because the media isn't.

The average voter is only hearing Bush's attacks and not Kerry's responses. That's the point I'm making.

And my point is that YOU have the power to change that.

[leeman67]

41. Fair enough, and I'm doing what I can...

[depakid]

20. The point is that he's not getting his message out!

therefore, he's NOT RESPONDING.

Whining and complaining about the media doesn't change that fact. Issuing press releases or making a few statements on the stump isn't going to work if hadly anyone hears it.

[bigtree]

22. Maybe you could do better

Activists Resource Thread-
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=613962&mesg_id=614226

[sangh0]

28. The point is that YOU'RE not getting his message out

You just blame everyone but yourself.

Not your job, right?

Whining and complaining about the media doesn't change that fact. Issuing press releases or making a few statements on the stump isn't going to work if hadly anyone hears it.

So you whine and complain about that on DU, instead of going out and spreading the news?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

13. see this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x614615

[LittleApple81]

15. Thank good we are democrats and this is a DISCUSSION forum.n/t

[Feanorcurufinwe]

17. Thank goodness, indeed. I'm up for a discussion.

How many winning political campaigns have you run?

[LittleApple81]

19. None. And the people who have won the campaigns in my state

are republican. But that doesn't mean that I as a citizen and a democrat and a member of a discussion forum cannot have an opinion. We are in this war because the people on the democratic side who ran and won elections did not do their job very well and we the people kept our mouths shut.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

21. So your opinion is uninformed. Certainly you have a right

to state your opinion, just as I have a right to point out that it is uninformed and without apparent value.


I have another question for you. Why raise this phony strawman issue of your right to an opinion when no one has said or implied that you don't have a right to your opinion? Just wondering.

[LittleApple81]

37. You are acting like a republican. I see you have learned something from

somebody.

And value is in the eye of the beholder. But you don't have to put people down to feel superior. You did not only imply but state that I did not have a right to an opinion when you asked me to go to the poll that you so thoughtfully had created yourself.

And I really don't feel that I need to share my "uninformed and without apparent value" opinions with you, since all your statements, according to your infallible authority are totally informed. I didn't know that you had been crowned the total and final arbiter of everybody's thoughts and opinions. When I am notified of that fact I will bow to you and be forever in awe of your powerful statements.

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[in_cog_ni_to]

36. What did Lautenberg say today? I missed it!

Did he call someone a "Chickenhawk" again? I love that guy. What did he say?