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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:14 PM
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In April '92, Clinton camp called Brown victory " IMPOSSIBLE"
In 1992, the Iowa caucus occurred a month later than it did this year. So the length of time between the first primary and the Clinton camp's public pressure on their main rival to withdraw was two months. It's almost six months since Iowa this year, and it has been mathematically near-impossible for Clinton to win since March. The Clintons are such accomplished sociopaths that they begin to make you believe their lies after a while.

There's much more evidence of their fathomless bullshit here and JedReport lays out a timeline.



Bill Clinton, on Sunday:

"I have never seen anything like it. I have never seen a candidate treated so disrespectfully just for running. ... I can't believe it. It is just frantic the way they are trying to push and pressure and bully all these superdelegates to come out."



Without editorial comment, here's a list of quotes and statements about the 1992 Democratic nomination battle from March and April of that year.

"Things I see happening in the Brown campaign lead me to believe something destructive is happening. I'd say it's time for Democrats to link arms, dig in our heels, set our sights and work together to put Bill Clinton in the White House in 1992."

-- Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin (NYT, 3/27/92)


"In an interview, Ronald H. Brown, the party chairman, said he wanted to maintain his neutrality but was compelled to speak out against what he described as the former California Governor's 'scorched-earth policy' of verbal assault on Mr. Clinton's record and character. "



-- NYT, 3/27/92


"It's mathematically impossible for Brown to get the nomination."
-- Clinton spokesman George Stephanopoulos on Clinton's last foe

(NYT, 4/8/92)



"In the future, people will look back upon this week and this campaign as a turning point, not for Bill Clinton, but for the Democratic Party and for America."

-- Bill Clinton, after winning New York's primary (NYT, 4/8/92)


"People are starting to rally around the flag."

-- Dee Dee Myers, Clinton Press Sec'y (NYT, 4/10/92)


"It's time to close ranks. We cannot wait until July when we already know who has earned the right to be our nominee and who will be our nominee."

-- West Virginia Sen. Jay Rockefeller (NYT, 4/11/92)


"Indeed, reports circulating on Capitol Hill said the Clinton campaign was mounting a strong campaign to swing uncommitted senators behind the Arkansas Governor, and that Ronald H. Brown, the party chairman, was taking part in them."

-- NYT, 4/29/92


"I cannot imagine a set of circumstances that would keep Bill Clinton from having a majority of the delegates by the end of the primary season."

-- Democratic Party Chairman Ronald H. Brown (NYT, 4/29/92)


"Mr. Brown added that he had long hoped for an early nominee 'so we can focus our time and attention on George Bush.'"
-- NYT, 4/29/92



March 20, 1992:


Mr. Clinton is already close to the halfway mark in the number of delegates needed to win the nomination and has a 7-to-1 edge over Mr. Brown, who is running a maverick, anti-establishment campaign. Many Democrats said that barring an unexpected collapse by Mr. Clinton's campaign, it is difficult to see how Mr. Brown can overtake the Governor.


"It certainly brings it much closer to a conclusion," said Ronald H. Brown, the Democratic national chairman. "You could argue that it's theoretically possible for Jerry Brown to mount a come-from-behind challenge, but the math and the reality of Bill Clinton's momentum certainly work against him."


March 27, 1992:

The chairman of the Democratic Party issued an unusual rebuke yesterday to one of his party's two remaining candidates for President, saying Edmund G. Brown Jr. has "crossed the line in terms of inappropriate attacks" against Gov. Bill Clinton of Arkansas.


In an interview, Ronald H. Brown, the party chairman, said he wanted to maintain his neutrality but was compelled to speak out against what he described as the former California Governor's "scorched-earth policy" of verbal assault on Mr. Clinton's record and character.


The party chairman's remarks came on a day when other leading Democrats appeared to be closing ranks behind Mr. Clinton, who holds a substantial lead in the number of delegates accumulated but has encountered persistent unease over his candidacy among party regulars.


...Mr. Harkin said one reason he had decided to endorse Mr. Clinton was to try to put an end to some of the acrimony that has developed between the two remaining major Democratic candidates. He also said that Mr. Brown had not sought union support until after Mr. Harkin dropped out of the race.


"What I'm afraid now is that we may be entering a destructive phase," Mr. Harkin said in a television appearance with Mr. Clinton that was sent by satellite to a Washington meeting of Democratic fund raisers. "Things I see happening in the Brown campaign lead me to believe something destructive is happening."


Mr. Harkin said he had put aside the political differences he had with Mr. Clinton during the primary campaign and he appealed for party unity. "The differences between me and Bill are minuscule compared to our differences with George Bush," Mr. Harkin said at a news conference here.


"I'd say it's time for Democrats to link arms, dig in our heels, set our sights and work together to put Bill Clinton in the White House in 1992."



April 8, 1992:

Clinton aides breathed their first sighs of relief late last week after their own surveys of New York voters began to show that their support had solidified while Mr. Brown's had begun to soften.


"In the future, people will look back upon this week and this campaign as a turning point, not for Bill Clinton, but for the Democratic Party and for America," he told his cheering supporters.


..."It's mathematically impossible for Brown to get the nomination, and it would take Tsongas about 90 percent of the remaining delegates to win," said George Stephanopoulos, Mr. Clinton's deputy campaign manager. "So lightning would have to strike. But we're going to keep our sneakers on, just in case."


April 9, 1992:

A tally by The New York Times showed that Mr. Clinton had gained 162 delegates on Tuesday, putting his total at 1,279 of the 2,145 needed for nomination.


...Indeed, reports circulating on Capitol Hill said the Clinton campaign was mounting a strong campaign to swing uncommitted senators behind the Arkansas Governor, and that Ronald H. Brown, the party chairman, was taking part in them. Mr. Brown said he had made no request of any superdelegate, although he conceded that he had talked to many "who were reassessing their positions on the day after Bill Clinton took an extraordinary leap forward."


April 10, 1992:

Dee Dee Myers, Mr. Clinton's press secretary, insisted that "people are starting to rally around the flag," and she mentioned Mr. Rockefeller as an example. She also said the Arkansas Governor plans to meet with uncommitted superdelegates on Capitol Hill on April 29, the day after the Pennsylvania primary, when Congress will return from the Easter recess.


Ronald H. Brown, the party chairman, has been phoning uncommitted delegates and others, "discussing the lay of the political territory," as he described it. He denied putting pressure on anybody, but others in the party said he was sending a subtle but clear message that it was time to halt the squabbling.


April 11, 1992:

The executive board of the Service Employees International Union, which claims one million members, and Senator John D. Rockefeller 4th, Democrat of West Virginia, endorsed Mr. Clinton in separate announcements.


"It's time to close ranks," he said. "We cannot wait until July when we already know who has earned the right to be our nominee and who will be our nominee," he said.


Mr. Rockefeller, who is the party's finance chairman, considered running for President this year and has moderated three forums on health care with the Democratic candidates. His endorsement was timed in part to offset the notion that Democrats in Congress and other elected officials who will be superdelegates to the Democratic National Convention in July are reluctant to climb aboard Mr. Clinton's bandwagon.


"Our fight now is with a man named George Bush, not with other Democrats," Mr. Rockefeller said. "Our weapons are ideas. Our leader is Bill Clinton."


April 12, 1992:

In a signal that he was prepared to temper the divisive tone of his campaign for President, Edmund G. Brown Jr. said today that he would back the Democratic Party's Presidential nominee.


...Ronald H. Brown, the Democratic national chairman, paying heed to the scores of placards waving in the audience for Gov. Bill Clinton, Governor Brown or former Senator Paul E. Tsongas, acknowledged that many Democrats think the primary campaign for President is still unsettled, despite Mr. Clinton's overwhelming lead in delegates.


"I know there are some out there who are saying, 'My God, We need another candidate,' " Ronald Brown said. But he implored delegates to follow the lead of voters in the primaries so far and "keep our eye on the prize."


In a call for unity, Mr. Brown declared: "We can and we must win, but it's going to require the absolute solidarity of our party. We are a very peculiar institution -- the only institution in the world I know where we are harder on each other than on our own adversaries."


...It was clear today that former Governor Brown was intent on shedding his role as an angry critic of the Democratic Party and its leaders. Only two days ago, he wondered aloud whether Ronald Brown was "man enough" to cancel the rest of the primaries and anoint Mr. Clinton the party's Presidential nominee. But today Governor Brown passed up opportunities to criticize of the party chairman and Mr. Clinton. He saved his fire for "the citadel of governance that has failed the principles of this nation."


April 29, 1992:

Ronald H. Brown, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said tonight, "I cannot imagine a set of circumstances that would keep Bill Clinton from having a majority of the delegates by the end of the primary season, based on his performance today." Mr. Brown added that he had long hoped for an early nominee "so we can focus our time and attention on George Bush."


... The polls Tuesday showed Mr. Clinton running well across the board, even with some voting groups that had proven less supportive of him in the past, including Roman Catholics. He carried more than half of the white vote over all, 7 in 10 of the black voters and 6 in 10 of the union households.


Some analysts said his strength reflected a simple fact of life: For the first time in a very long time, Mr. Clinton was not facing a barrage of character questions. "He still has a long way to go," said Geoffrey Garin, a Democratic poll taker, "but he's got the chance to run the kind of campaign he needs to run. He got that chance in Pennsylvania; he wasn't fending off a new charge every day."



http://www.jedreport.com/2008/05/in-april-92-c-1.html

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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:18 PM
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1. I don't understand...
there were still contests left in 1992??? How could they claim victory when they didn't have the required number? Ozark? Elsewhere? can you help answer this for me?
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:55 PM
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3. Once the math indicated that Brown could not overtake Clinton and mathematically
impossible for Brown to get the nomination (some time in late March) then the Clinton machine and his ' War Room ' switched into high gear with the super delegates and began closing all possible venues for Brown to mount a come-back of any kind. In fact, Clinton didn't win the Democratic nomination in April but secured the majority of pledged delegates. Clinton didn't officially become the party’s nominee until delegates cast their votes at the Democratic National Convention in Madison Square Garden.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:12 AM
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10. Hmm... majority of the pledged delegates...
sounds familiar.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:23 PM
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2. Funny Thing About History...
It's often not so open to interpretation.

K&R
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 11:09 PM
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4. Welcome to DU Segami! Good OP
The internet really is the new media where facts are still to be found as shown by your link.

Recommended.
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 11:16 PM
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7. Thanks a bunch for the warm welcome Spazito. Lets hope the Internet remains a free source for ALL
where information flows freely.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 11:24 PM
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8. Amen to that, the free flow of information is paramount! n/t
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 11:14 PM
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5. Bill and Hillary, caught in bold faced lies...again and again...
yet for some stupid fucking reason, people worship them. It's beyond reason.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 11:14 PM
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6. BWAHHHHAAHAHAHHA!!! Great Post!!!!
K&R
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 11:33 PM
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9. top notch post! K&R
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:16 AM
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11. HRC didn't notice America changed in the last 16 years, don't want the old American way of politics
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wileedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:29 AM
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12. K&R - Wallow in the hypocrisy
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:32 AM
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13. Boomarked
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:13 AM
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14. The Clintons are pathetic.
That is all.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:21 AM
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15. 1992 Primary Schedule
Schedule of 1992 primaries from Congressional Quarterly’s Presidential Elections, 1789-1996

February 10: Iowa
February 18: New Hampshire
February 25: South Dakota
March 3: Colorado, Georgia, Maryland; also Minnesota, Idaho caucuses
March 7: South Carolina (Clinton)
March 10: Florida, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, plus caucuses in Hawaii, Missouri, Delaware- (Clinton)
March 17: Illinois, Michigan
March 24: Connecticut
April 7: Kansas, Minnesota , New York (Democrats), Wisconsin
April 28: Pennsylvania
May 5: DC, Indiana, North Carolina
May 12: Nebraska, West Virginia
May 19: Oregon, Washington
May 26: Arkansas, Idaho , Kentucky
June 2: Alabama, California, Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, Ohio
June 9: North Dakota
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:47 AM
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16. So?
Brown couldn't win, but he could've prevented Clinton from securing enough delegates to get the nomination, had he done well in California.

Clinton didn't secure enough delegates until June of 1992.
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:12 AM
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18. Brown could of, would of, should of........he was out by April and all that remained was the
nomination formality. Its no different than McCain's current nomination status today. He is NOT the official republican nominee. He will officially become the party’s nominee when the delegates cast their votes at the Republican National Convention in September and confirm him.

Back in '92, once the delegate math didn't work for Brown anymore, it was just a matter of time before the super delegates began throwing their support behind Clinton. The writing was on the wall 2 months into the nomination campaign and Clinton's War Room Strategists were hard at work closing out Brown's remaining few options. The difference here is that Hillary CAN'T/WON'T accept the stark reality before her that a black junior senator has come from nowhere and has stealthily snuck up behind her pant suit and taken away the Democratic nomination holy grail that was once, a sure bet and HERS for the taking. This will go down as the greatest political upset of the century and Hillary knows the historical relevance & repercussions this will have which gives credence to the stories circulating around that a V.P. deal is being actively sought by her, Bill and her advisers. This is the next safe bet for her and would position her to at the very least, have another shot at the nomination 8 years down the road.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:44 AM
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19. Nonetheless
it was in June that Bill Clinton secured enough delegates to become the nominee.
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:32 PM
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20. It was over WELL BEFORE June. Ask Bill, he'll tell you the same thing and he wrote about it in his
book.

" But for weeks before that June 2 contest, few doubted that Mr. Clinton would be the party’s nominee, including those involved with the campaign of his remaining challenger, former Gov. Jerry Brown of California.

“Even if it wasn’t technically finished, it was clear to everybody involved that it was over WELL BEFORE June,” Steve McMahon, a media strategist for Mr. Brown in the 1992 race, said Monday in an interview.




http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/27/us/politics/27checkpoint.html?_r=2&ref=politics&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 01:04 AM
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21. LOL
Can't you guys read?

It was settled in June. That's when Clinton secured enough delegates to win the nomination. Prior to that, he was the PROBABLE nominee, not the presumptive nominee. Just like Obama is now.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 02:49 AM
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17. kr
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