Dem Strategist: a VERY basic misconception about Kerry-Edwards

[Dem_Strategist]

Kerry is not saying _____

Kerry isn't hitting back hard enough on _____

Kerry should be responding to _____

Kerry is muddled on _____

Kerry should be clearer about ______


Please remember what I said in my first thread: the media is Kerry's number 1 opponent.

Kerry and Edwards' message is being delivered through a FILTER.

Please do not mistake what you receive through the media filter as Kerry's unfiltered words or message.

[soleft]

1. Is this a plug for AAR Unfiltered

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[mzmolly]

2. Thanks, this is good to keep in mind.

;)

[slinkerwink]

3. exactly....I've seen press releases and clips of Kerry speaking

However, the media doesn't report his speeches in full like they do Bush's. The media also picks the ONE outlier poll out of 15 polls to show that Bush is leading.

However, we do have to think outside of the box. Have you thought about theater advertising? It's the perfect captive audience, and we could reach more people than we do via television.

[MaryH]

9. Yea, I noticed that, too

Like this whole broohaha over "sensitive war." One word out of a whole sentence that made perfect sense and Cheney runs with it.

I think Kerry and Edwards both are very interesting to listen to in person. Just because they do not spend all of their time "mocking and deriding" the opposition. I am so sick of that Bush "smirk."

And what is that new thing on the radio - Kerry is a rich white flipflopper. So what does that make Bush? A rich, white, lying, scuzbucket who wouldn't know a "value" if it hit him in the face.

I hope Kerry and Edwards just keep on topic and ignore those ignoramouses. There is no way to win at their game - you just look foolish if you try.

[slinkerwink]

13. yeah, I'm glad the Kerry campaign knows the media is the real obstacle

and I'm hoping that once Kerry is in office, that he'll propose media reregulation, and the reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine. Heh, I just keep adding in my two cents, don't I?

[sundancekid]

22. agreed, and I am already working in my mind how to coopt their

effective use (and bait-and-switch) of the magic word "deregulation" -- in fact, this scummy bunch did nothing but ADD regulations -- but these regulations benefited only the Repub cronies/corporate interests.

I certainly know what you mean, slinker, by suggesting "reregulation" -- yet, going forward into the near future as you inspire us to do, I'm thinking that we may have to recapture something like the previous and workable (??) concept of breaking up news media "monopolies," or whatever is clearly not-a-good-thing to the joe/jane mentalities that have to be convinced that we need to vote a change.

[Lerkfish]

44. cheney's remarks were front page banner headline here

but not the rebuttal.

[lancdem]

4. Point well taken

I have one question that's kind of off subject - what do you make of the CNN/Gallup polls that are so pro-Bush? I know you can't reveal any internal polling numbers, but can you reassure us that CNN is an outlier, as we strongly suspect?

[slinkerwink]

5. go to http://www.pollingreport.com

There are 15 national polls, with about 13 of them showing a Kerry lead.

[lancdem]

6. I do go there regularly

I just wanted to hear Dem_Strategist's take.

[Dem_Strategist]

17. I posted a thread in General Discussion about polls

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2209432

[lancdem]

19. Thanks, I just found it

[Spazito]

7. The media deliberately takes 'clips" from Kerry and plays them....

without the full context of the message Kerry is sending in order to neutralize Kerry's strengths, imo. The media USED to report, now they fabricate the news and then report on that fabrication, it is disgusting!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

8. Correct: People at DU want to hear complete policy speeches

The problem is the policy won't be focussed on in the media...one sentence will as with the "sensitivity" brouhaha.

BTW...have you been considering and studying the suggestions of Professor Lakoff in terms of dealing with soundbites?

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/10/27_lakoff.shtml

[Triana]

10. It IS FILTERED! Sent to CNN Today RE: "Sensitive"

This was sent to CNN today (doubt it will help but they REALLY peeved us with their slanted/filtered reporting):
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You have repeatedly aired a sentence from of the John Kerry speech where he mentioned the word "sensitive." But in the next sentence, which you didn't air, he talked about whom he intended for this sensitivity to be directed, but you didn't air that. You completely took his comment out of context.

Why don't you compare Dick Cheney's "go fuck yourself" attitude toward his colleagues or Bush's "with us or against us" attitude toward the entire world, and John Kerry's would-be sensitive attitude to our nations allies? That would be worthy exposition.

You should spend as much attention on the innumerable and real spoken blunders of Mr. Bush. He speaks in simple terms because such are the biggest concepts that he can capacitate. You are, apparently, likewise constrained in capacity.

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The media spends much less time repeating what Democrats say and often when they DO repeat it, they only repeat parts, and they take it out of context. (spelt: L I E S).

[liberalnurse]

12. That was my first thought!

I live in Dayton...and it started here by Cheney!

[henslee]

24. CNN's brazen DNC/"Where are the f*cking baloons" sabotage

was chilling. I still cannot believe there was no repercussions.

[spooky3]

40. to make matters worse, today they reported on Cheney's misrepresentation

of this as if Kerry said he intended to be sensitive toward TERRORISTS rather than allies. CNN showed NO rebuttal from a Democrat, nor did they then move to coverage of either Edwards or Kerry. Ah yes, rivalling Faux for "fair and balanced"...

Come to think of it I have yet to see ANY CNN coverage of Edwards since the convention, yet I've seen quite a few Cheney campaign stories.

[liberalnurse]

11. You are a welcoming voice of our concious.....

Keeping us on message, on task and focused has been a Godsend.

Now, lets all take a cleansing breath......Repeat and chant.....The media is our obstacle.

[sundancekid]

14. EXACTLY. Plus, such misconception then leads RIGHT into what

the other (dark) side defines as THEIR success by owning the media filters: for us to become shaky about our own candidate ... the freepers read our boards too, and they pass on our henny-penny hysteria. So, rather than us cascading throughout the land messages like: "Bush is running away from his record, he can only smear the other guy" -- we are tempted to spend time after time after time in letting their message tail wag our message dog (need a donkey-connected metaphor here -- my bad!).

DO NOT mistake my words for ANY censorship invitation of anything in our democracy, our candidates included. BUT, DO NOT FALL unwittingly into a reinforcement trap of the real value that the bought-and-paid-for media filter/control has for the GOP.

I continue to say: let's use our energy productively. Hope you will continue to inform and shed effective light, Dem_Strategist. I welcome your insights and approaches.

BTW, on your days off, do you sub for Deep Throat too? (ROTFLMAO)

[gasperc]

15. Help us harness the CBO report

I think it has alot of great details that amplify our case that Bush approach tax cuts have squeezed everyone making under $150,000 while having neglible or no effect on creating jobs, improving America's quality of life, SHARING THE BURDEN of the war in Iraq, etc

[Dem_Strategist]

20. Perfect example: here's Kerry's statement from a few minutes ago

Eugene, OR – Senator John Kerry released the following statement today on the new Congressional Budget Office Report:

“Today’s report reinforces what middle-class families across the country already knew about George Bush. His tax breaks have forced them to pay a bigger share of America’s tax burden forcing them to bear the brunt of his failed economic policies. George Bush says we are turning the corner, but he is turning his back on middle-class families. It is bad enough that George Bush has no plan to help middle-class families squeezed by declining wages and skyrocketing costs for healthcare, energy and college tuition. Now we find that he is deliberately stacking the deck against them. This is the straw that will break the back of middle-class families.

“America can do better. John Edwards and I have a plan to cut middle-class taxes, create new and better jobs, make quality health care affordable, reduce our dependence on Middle East oil and help families succeed. Unlike George Bush, our plan puts middle-class families first. That is the kind of leadership that will build a stronger economy and a stronger America.”

[lancdem]

27. Great!

Now will the media report this? :)

[gasperc]

30. strategist wants us to send letters out-TODAY-

I'm going over to the media corps site at John Kerry.com to see what WE can be doing to get Kerry's message as the top news story in my market in Detroit. And the rest of you out there need to get in touch with your local media so that this message will break through nationally!!!!!!!!!

[NewJeffCT]

32. CBO - just another liberal propaganda machine

just kidding, but I'm sure that is how it will be spun. You know how liberal those accountants are? I mean, most of them have been to <gasp> college.

[Nite Owl]

16. I've been emailing

people I know who say that with Kerry's responses and how obvious it is that the the media, tv in particular does not give Kerry anywhere near fair time. I have faxed and emailed CNN and MSNBC etc. and never even receive a response. There must be something else we can do. I know about the media corp and media matters but that just isn't enough. Can they be sued to cover material that is being kept from the public that is frankly too busy to search things out online? Would just the threat make them do something? An organized boycott of their sponsors? No one is expecting the media to be one sided our way we just want a fair shake, We can't wait until after the election for them to say well we should have covered the election better like the NYT and the WP have written their mea culpa's about the runup to the Iraq war.

[henslee]

18. To what extent does JK use desktop advert. networks/context. marketing?...

I do not know much about this business except that desktop advertising networks partner with software developers to offer consumers valuable software for free by agreeing to see occasional ads instead of paying a fee. End users opt in. Privacy is not violated. Spam factor is nil -- unlike E-mailing lists. And these contextual marketinging techniques (via cookies) enables advertisers to specifically target -- i.e. "swing state" residents, seniors, parents, etc.

[Radical Activist]

21. Even with the jobs we're losing to the trade agreements Kerry supported?

because this changing the tax code proposal is pretty weak. This should be the Dems most powerful issue but I guess that would open up another flip-flopper attack.

[NightOwwl]

23. Regarding the "sensitive" comment.

Jon Stewart played a clip of Bush in a speech to the Journalists of Color, saying the same f*ckn word. Same audience that John Kerry was speaking too, and in almost the same context. I apologize, but I don't have a link to the clip.

The media hates to admit it, but I think the pay attention to The Daily Show. They will probably drop the "Kerry is soooo sensitive" comment now that Bush has been outed saying the same thing.

And Cheney knew Bush said it all the time has was smearing Kerry. Bush can't take a pee without telling Dick first, you know Cheney had read his speech.

Hate all of them.

[annxburns]

25. A question for you dem strategist ...

I know you can't answer every question, but I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on how and why the media became Kerry/democrats #1 enemy. What co-opted them? It's amazing to me that 30 yrs ago the media was protecting sources in order to uncover WH crimes whereas now the media is protecting sources in order to COVER UP a WH crime (Plame leak).

[Dem_Strategist]

26. Read David Brock's 'The Republican Noise Machine'

for starters

[annxburns]

29. Thanks, I'll pick it up today.

I love mediamatters.org. Brock is at least trying to make up for what he did ...

[spooky3]

41. See also http://www.fair.org/

[Tom Rinaldo]

28. "You don't win a War on Terror by waging a War on Words"

A possible come back line to Cheney/Bush for distorting the meaning of "sensitive", and passing that off as a substantive message.

[John_H]

31. I like what you're (finally) trying to do, but please

cut the bullshit. Whipping up the internet community to go after the media is a good idea--I hope this isn't the only message board you're posting on.

But the people that populate these boards aren't dopes. Most people understand how the media works as fully as anyone on corner of South Capitol and Ivy--in fact, there are dozens of media watching bloggers on DU alone.

Folks around here also know a good old fashioned ass kicking when we see one, that it's the job of the campaign and the DNC to get the message out through (or around) a hostile filter, that there ware numerous ways to do it, and that it isn't getting done.

[NewJeffCT]

33. I'm trying to get through

I write letters to the editor to my local newspaper and also email info to the two main news reporters there... no luck yet - Iraq has been falling apart for over a week now, yet the first mention of Iraq in last Sunday's Hartford (Connecticut) Courant was on page A11.

[ibegurpard]

34. Most everyone here is both aware of and agrees with your points.

Most of us will take the time to investigate the context of things that appear to be misrepresentations on the legitmate newscasts.
However, there is a fundamental problem with Democratic spokespeople on the pundit shows. Like it or not, this format is where a lot of Americans get their political opinions. We need to have more people on these shows who understand how to combat the bomb-throwing, bullying tactics of the people who speak for the "right."
I watched Krugman vs. O'Reilly the other night. Krugman has the facts at his disposal and if it were a debate based purely on the facts then he would win hands down. He didn't seem to quite know how to deal with the loud-mouthed, bullying argumentative tactics of O'Reilly however. You can have all the facts at your disposal and if some moron is shouting louder than you, no one will hear them. We HAVE to find a way to shut this kind of discourse down if people are going to hear our message.

[kwolf68]

35. Good advice

But what about the 250 million people who don't come to DU?

[WI_DEM]

36. Q for Dem_Strategist

How do you think the media will spin the GOP convention--especially if the public polls show Bush gaining a modest lead--of 2-4 points?

[indigo32]

37. where do you see that lead?

[WI_DEM]

38. i'm saying if there is a modest lead after the GOP convention

that was my question. I see most polls currently have Kerry up 2-4 points, except for Gallup, but after the GOP convention it is conceivable that Bush could regain the lead, at least temporarily.

[MallRat]

39. Dem Strategist: I swear on my grandmother's grave...

...if Terry McAuliffe is NOT the first guest immediately after Bush's acceptance speech on CNN, I may very well lose my mind.

Get the ball rolling now with the producers of their convention coverage. If they saw fit to give ED GILLESPIE the first crack to analyze Kerry's acceptance speech, then it would only be fair for CNN to offer the same high-profile slot to McAuliffe.

Anything less is blatant, unadulterated whoring for Bush.

And what do we make of the Gallup polls? They've consistently been outliers relative to all other polls, but because they're "GALLUP," they seem to have some magical gravitas.

It also doesn't help that CNN and USA Today pimp these results are the gospel because it's THEIR poll. What to do? How can we force CNN to cast a skeptical eye on the very poll they commissioned?

-MR

[geek tragedy]

42. I usually review the Campaign website.

If there's nothing there about something I think needs to be said, then I start scratching my head.

[spooky3]

43. Is there some way you can get this point through to Al Franken?

I love his work but I think he is wrong, wrong, wrong, when he likens the issue of media bias to the issue of whether terrorists (I think it was they) use too much oil in their hummus. Media bias is a BIG problem for Democrats.