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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 02:04 PM
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You shouldn't pay attention to the national polls
remember, popular vote doesn't win it... The polls may show a tie/slight bush lead amongst the nation but Kerry is winning in the Electoral College based on state polls.

Wouldn't that be something if Kerry wins the EC and loses the popular vote?
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 02:05 PM
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1. If He Does, We'll Just Tell The GOP to "Get Over It"
:-)
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MissouriTeacher Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 02:09 PM
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2. I don't bother with the national polls
but I look at the electoral college numbers everyday. And boy, they're looking pretty sweet right now. :)

http://www.electoral-vote.com/
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MissouriTeacher Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 02:11 PM
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3. If we do have a reversal from 2000
We'll have to come up with our own version of "Sore-Loserman."

Bush-Cheney = Hush-Whiney?

I can just picture certain members of Congress trying to retroactively dismantle the Electoral College.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 02:17 PM
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5. Shush-Weeney
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 02:15 PM
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4. What national polls are you talking about????
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MissouriTeacher Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 02:18 PM
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7. The new outlier Gallup poll..
that shows Bush with a slight lead and approval ratings at 51%

Just go to your nearest big media outlet, I'm sure they're covering it.
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 02:40 PM
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10. Stop with Gallup already
The only poll of the last 13 that has Bush winning is Gallup.
Gallup is obviously overestimating republican voters.

RCP Average 8/2 - 8/11 44.3% 47.1% 3.3% Kerry +2.8
Gallup (729 LV) 8/9 - 8/11 48% 46% 3% Bush +2
Pew (1,166 RV) 8/5 - 8/10 45% 47% 2% Kerry +2
Time/SRBI (758 LV) 8/3 - 8/5 43% 48% 4% Kerry +5
AP/Ipsos (798 RV) 8/3 - 8/5 45% 48% 3% Kerry +3
Dem Corps* (1,013 LV) 8/2 - 8/5 44% 49% 4% Kerry +5
IBD/TIPP (841 RV) 8/2 - 8/5 42% 45% 5% Kerry +3
Fox News (775 LV) 8/3 - 8/4 43% 47% 2% Kerry +4
Marist (573 LV) 7/30-8/2 47% 47% 1% TIE
CBS News (991 RV) 7/31-8/1 43% 48% 3% Kerry +5
CNN/Gallup/USAT (LV) 7/30-8/1 51% 45% 2% Bush +6
ABC News/WP (LV) 7/30-8/1 47% 49% 2% Kerry +2
ARG (776 RV) 7/30-8/1 45% 49% 2% Kerry +4
Newsweek (1,010 RV) 7/29-7/30 42% 49% 3% Kerry +7

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 02:17 PM
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6. The Electoral College Follows The Popular Vote....
If Gore was winning the popular vote by even two or three percent alot of close states would have fallen into his column...
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 02:22 PM
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8. It would be very unlikely that bush would win the popular vote and loose
the electoral vote, for the simple reason that we will win more large states than he will.

We will win big in states like California, New York, Illinois, but we still only get their electoral votes. Bush will win big in Texas, but winning huge margins in Utah isn't going to move the EV very much.

I see it as very possible that like in 2000 Kerry could win popular vote and loose the electoral college, but the reverse situation is very unlikely.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 02:24 PM
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9. Kerry Would Have To Win The Popular Vote By A Very Small Amount
ala Gore for that to occur...


Thank God....
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 02:47 PM
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12. You forget that Gore WON the electoral vote; it was stolen.
Gore won the popular vote nationwide AND also in Florida, with anywhere fron 50,000 to 100,000 votes. BushCo stole them through a combination of butterfly ballots, double-punching and triple-punching Gore votes, illegal absentee votes for Bush and supression of Gore absentees AND black disenfranchisement of over 50,000 voters.

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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 02:44 PM
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11. most of the polls
show Kerry with a small lead. Gallup is an outlier.
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