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Vote2008 Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 10:42 PM
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Serious Question: At what point does Hillary become as much as an enemy as McCain???
This is a 100% serious question.

There becomes a point, if Hillary takes this to the convention, that she becomes as big of a hinderence to the White House for Obama as McCain is. Maybe more!

At what point does Hillary become 100% the enemy and we need to attack her like we do McCain?

She is constantly trying to undermine Obama already. If she takes this to the convention and demands a vote and also campaigns for the nomination for the next 3 months then do we start to treat her as a hostile party?

She can talk all the unity she wants, but I have seen NONE in her actions.

I think there has to be a point where the DU becomes a place where only OBAMA supporters, or Hillary supporters who will vote for Obama, are allowed here.

And if the supers give it to Obama next week then any promoting of Hillary to the convention should be dealt with like McCain supporters here. She will be hurting the democratic party too much to be allowed to continue.

I am ready to hear arguments against what I am saying.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 10:44 PM
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1. If and only if she declares as a third-party candidate.
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Vote2008 Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 10:45 PM
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3. So if Obama gets the needed committed SDs next week and......
she continues to say we need a vote in Denver before she will drop out you will still support her?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 10:56 PM
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6. I don't support Sen. Clinton, and believe she should drop out Wednesday at latest.
Edited on Thu May-29-08 10:57 PM by Occam Bandage
However, she would not be "an enemy" to the Democratic party until after the convention. She can "refuse to drop out," but that's a meaningless statement once Obama hits 2026 (or whatever the RBC decides is the grand total). She'll just be a silly sideshow until the convention.
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 10:47 PM
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4. I agree
At that point, she is no longer a Democrat. Until then, McCain is the bigger enemy. She is just a candidate who has stayed in the race a bit too long.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 10:45 PM
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2. She passed that point a month or so ago.... when she made favorable comments about McCain....
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 10:48 PM
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5. October 2002
If you need to ask why, you're on the wrong board.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 10:58 PM
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7. TUZLA!!!!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 10:59 PM
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8. Really, Hillary has the right to go all the way to the Democratic convention
...and debate the issues so delegates can make an informed selection as to which candidate will serve the people of the United States best. Listen, there are still many issues that need to be addressed. You have the economy going totally south with tens of millions of homeowners currently and potentially about to be foreclosed on and no protection at all.

The economy, the war, special interest groups, lobby money influence....still lots of integrity issues and only when the delegates have the debates from the democratic convention floor will we come together as a party and kick the "rethuglicans" out and send McCain/Bush packing. So let the process unfold and if Obama supporters haven't the patience and can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen! :yoiks:
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:10 PM
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10. "so delegates can make an informed selection..."
They have. An extra round of preening for the cameras won't make them change their minds.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:38 PM
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15. Yep.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:00 PM
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9. The race-baiting did it for me...
And I don't hate her quite as much as McCain.
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:11 PM
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11. Not "does," it's "did" - On the day MI held its primary with mainly her name on the ballot
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:19 PM
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12. god damn....freaking cicadas suck with their incessant noise...
can't wait until they crawl back under the dirt
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:23 PM
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13. What is it with you and cicadas? And is it the 13 or 17 year variety you're referencing?
:shrug:

Just curious.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:26 PM
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14. the ones that emerge every 4 year
Edited on Thu May-29-08 11:28 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
;)
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:44 PM
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16. Thanks, I was just curious because my sister is an Entomologist or whatever you call it, and
she does research on cicadas as part of her job. It's kind of an obscure topic (or maybe I just haven't been paying attention), and I was curious as to the reference because I don't see cicadas discussed all that often except at Christmas, Fourth of July, and family reunions.

:-)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:46 PM
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17. Months ago..some just didn't
know it yet.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:46 PM
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18. Yesterday.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:47 PM
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19. We have to support moveon to get through this so they can address mccain.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:35 AM
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20. Fascism much????????????
I think there has to be a point where the DU becomes a place where only OBAMA supporters, or Hillary supporters who will vote for Obama, are allowed here.

:thumbsdown:
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