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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:19 PM
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Way to attack a good man there, Hillary.
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:21 PM
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1. Well, he was mocking her last Sunday
She has the right to be a bit angry.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:22 PM
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2. So why hasn't she denounced Rev. Manning?
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:34 AM
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16. Because the MSM doesn't care about him...
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:25 PM
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5. Um, mocking?
I thought Hillary thought mocking was funny and justified. Why in the world would she be angry about being mocked herself?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ckrEeHDRY
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:23 PM
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3. She has every right to be pissed. He made a stupid comment
She just was idiotic attacking Obama because he already responded and did exactly what Howard Wolfson attacked Obama for not doing.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:26 PM
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7. I agree that it was a stupid comment, but she and her campaign have no room to talk
BESIDES the fact that, as you said, Obama has already addressed this.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:24 PM
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4. His comments were completely unacceptable
Regardless of what he's accomplished, he went over the line with what he said.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:26 PM
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6. Thank you.
I watched the video and it made me sick.
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:31 AM
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15. It made you sick?
Isn't that a little dramatic? It was stupid, yes, and he has already apologized. But it made you sick? Really? If that made you sick, you really should stay out of politics.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 01:04 PM
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23. I'm Catholic -
To hear a Catholic priest spout hatred and racism - made me sick.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 01:34 PM
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28. Good thing you were not in Church in Ireland
During the Troubles.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:43 AM
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52. Of course, no Presbytarian minister ever said a thing, right?
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:50 AM
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55. I specified no religion but
Paisley or any of the other demagogues were as bigotted as they come. In respect of this thread, however, the surprise was expressed about a Catholic priest exhibiting less than tolerant words.
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:42 PM
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31. Oh my god
You have really never heard a Catholic priest spout hatred and racism? You have live a sheltered life.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:45 PM
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35. I agree...espcecially since he appeared so pleased with himself
for doing so.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:45 PM
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36. No, maybe that priest should stay out of politics.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:32 PM
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8. Celestial choirs ring any bells Hillary?
Glass houses lady.
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:35 AM
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17. The glass house shattered
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:39 PM
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9. That so called priest is disgusting filth and that is putting it mildly
No decent person could possibly defend that shit bag
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:36 AM
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18. You know absolutely nothing about Father Pfleger
Yes, that was a stupid comment, but calling him disgusting filth? What if I called YOU disgusting filth for your comments? Father Pfleger has been a progressive activist in Chicago for years, and has done a lot for his community. Perhaps THAT is why you are calling him filth.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 11:27 AM
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19. It is unimaginable that any decent person would defend that
maggot attracting shit bag
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:40 PM
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30. You are calling me indecent?
After the trolling you have done? Sir, out of a sense of decency, I will not say what I am thinking about you at the moment.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 11:11 PM
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42. "Father Pfleger is a known vicious ant-semite". Stop the silly drama
and ignorance. Educate yourself and stop supporting Hate speakers and Frauds
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 11:46 PM
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44. Riggght
You're getting your talking points from Bill O'Reilly now?
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:01 AM
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46. Here's one more little tidbit
Edited on Sat May-31-08 07:03 AM by durrrty libby
"Catholic League Slams Obama

The Catholic League sharply criticized Barack Obama Friday for his ties to controversial Catholic minister Michael Pfleger, saying in a statement the Illinois senator should have severed ties with him long ago "


If you opened your eyes, you would never support The Cardboard Messiah.

BO is the mirror image of bush and so are his supporters.Dangerous and delusional

Two very bad qualities
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:57 AM
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47. I guest you must be the mirror image of John McCain then
The Catholic League? Headed by this man?
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 01:24 PM
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27. How can you defend that hate turd?
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:39 PM
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29. Any sense of irony there?
Isn't it hateful to call him a "hate turd"?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:45 PM
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34. what if he call YOU a white supremist??
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gmudem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 10:04 PM
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41. Was that an attempt at a sentence?
Because it failed miserably.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 11:39 AM
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22. 2 more weeks
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:41 AM
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51. lol two more weeks....
and we can kiss and makeup.:grouphug:

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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 01:10 PM
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25. Interesting username.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 01:13 PM
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26. tick tock tick tock
pizza's almost ready
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:44 PM
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10. A good man?
Edited on Thu May-29-08 11:45 PM by Tarc
Yet another piece of racist swill in the Obama camp, just like ol' Jeremiah. Some things never change...
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:55 PM
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11. How is he in the Obama camp? Is he an official surrogate?
Put up some proof of that or STFU.

Speaking of racist swill:



Why was she allowed to hold that sign up at a Clinton event in WV?
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 11:35 AM
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20. Bigots for Obama seems to be a large contingent and the fact that
they hide behind religion makes it all the more disgusting

That must be some mighty fine Kool-Aid they're swilling back
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:56 PM
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12. Geez...are we going to let yet another religious figure be an issue??
This is for both his supporters and detractors.

Who the fuck cares what he said unless states that they agree with them?



Sometimes, we're our own worst enemy.
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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:59 AM
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14. Agree...
Who cares what pastors et al. spew? Only the mentally challenged...Fox, CNN and...

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

RIP Harvy Korman. You were one of the good guys...a great comedian.


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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:43 PM
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33. being smeared as a white supremist is no small matter!
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:32 AM
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13. Now it's Hillary's fault that this guy has diarrhea of the mouth
and made a spectacle of himself???

Too funny.......

Yep, he really helped Obama. Ditto for the parishioners of the church who gave him a standing ovation and clapped wildly. Great job at that unity thing folks!!! Keep it up and McCain will be sending the new pastor a thank you note.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:48 PM
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38. Nobody wants to unify with you, idiot. You, and your husband..
.. can take your your "PHD"s and your "6 figure salaries", and shove it up your fat, flabby asses.

And a clue, only an asshole flaunts it.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 11:37 AM
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21. Her team is DESPERATE to bash Obama at all costs.
The ends justify the means in Ickes' camp.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:46 PM
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37. get your head on straight. It was obama's church where the Father shouted that
disgusting filth!!
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 01:09 PM
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24. WTF....Hillary should have thanked the guy
for using her name to entertain the members of the church. How dare her be pissed. :sarcasm:

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:42 PM
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32. A so-called 'good man' does not smear Hillary as a white supremist!!-even Obama
has apologized for that comment.


get a grip!
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:55 PM
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39. Guy's a Dork
I don't expect a black preacher to go to a majority white church and start talking like William F. Buckley ...
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 10:03 PM
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40. Oh C'mon You Can't Really Expect Anyone Of Merit To Buy This Stupid Of An Argument, Can You?
Seriously... Who do you think you're fooling with such a silly concept?

Too funny.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 11:14 PM
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43. Thanks for putting this up.
All the pastorbators need to go walk a mile in his (and wrights) shoes.

Their WORK makes a mockery of the trivial pursuit that is the lives of the middle class.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 03:54 AM
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45. I'm going out on a limb here.
I just watched Father Pfleger's "performance" for the first time and I loved it. He was talking about "white entitlement" and he didn't say a single thing that was untrue.

Hillary herself is the one who set herself up to be a caricature for "white entitlement" by acting entitled to the nomination from the start and by using coded language like "hard-working white people" in speeches.

Once again, an "incident" involving a person with barely peripheral connections to Obama is exaggerated in the extreme and used to try to smear him -- because that's all the opposition's got.

And Obama is barely warmed up.

I can't wait until he takes McSame down for the count.

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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:58 AM
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48. Precisely
He was over the top, but I got his point. This faux outrage by Clinton supporters is very telling.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:12 AM
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49. a characterization of man is more like it.
he painted a target on himself, not Hillary's responsibility.

With friends like this Obama needs more enemies.
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:28 AM
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50. wow... thanks for sharing this.
Honestly, I watched the clip of Pfleger and I found him to be quite repulsive. From his creepy-sounding voice to his (what I saw as)pseudo-black preaching style. As an Obama supporter I certainly agree with his sentiment, but to ridicule Hillary in that way seemed not only unkind, and not in line with Obama's campaign standards, but colossally unwise. Let's just say I wasn't thrilled with the guy;)

But after reading the link that you provided I have a lot of respect for the man. He has adopted and raised a couple of kids, which is a huge plus with me, personally. His social activism is very creative and effective... this here literally brought tears to my eyes:
<snip>
Outreach to prostitutes

In 2000, Pfleger received international attention for encouraging his parishioners to buy time from prostitutes as a means of inviting the women to counseling and job training.<9> The Chicago Archdiocese largely distanced themselves from Pfleger's efforts, to which Pfleger responded, "How is what I'm doing not part of the Gospel? The church leaders talk about evangelization. Well, if this isn't evangelization, I don't know what is." Saint Sabina raised several thousand dollars for Pfleger's program, attracting many donors from outside their parish. St. Sabina has used similar methods to reach out to drug dealers.<10>


Lots more good stuff there...

I still think he was out of line and just plain foolish in denigrating a political opponent from the pulpit, but I'll agree he is an admirable man.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:45 AM
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53. He went on a sexist, demeaning tirade against her.
But then again, I guess that's okay. Women HAVE gotten so uppity. Imagine, them wanting to be treated like human beings and stuff. :sarcasm:
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:47 AM
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54. Yep, that is a common theme around here
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