Two Reports Indicate A Hillary Holdout Could Backfire

[Edgewater_Joe]

First, there's James Carville on TalkingPointsMemo going off the reservation and admitting that Obama "will" win the general election, gutting Hillary's electability argument ...

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/05/carville_on_obama_i_think_he_w.php

... and that's interesting ...

... but then comes what I think is the really revealing story, from Huffington Post's Tom Edsall. Apparently Hillary is likely to lose Saturday's vote, but the reason why, if true, spells doom for Hillary:

Harold Ickes, Clinton's chief delegate hunter, warned that there may be some defections among the 13 RBC members who have endorsed Hillary. If Ickes and his allies cannot hold all their troops in line, a motion before the RBC to seat all 210 Florida and 156 Michigan delegates with a full vote each would face certain defeat.

Folks ... and lurking Hillbots ... if this is true, any attempt by Hillary to take this to Denver is not only going to fail, but will also be deeply embarrassing. It seems to me if the Hillary campaign can't even hold their own allies on a committee that they themselves help put together back in the days when she was the inevitable nominee, then it's more likely she'll bleed support and bleed it badly between next Wednesday and the convention than convince other supers that she should usurp Obama.

Maybe this is what Obama and Reid and Pelosi have been talking about for weeks -- that they knew all of this and this is why they didn't stress out about Hillary's blathering. If so, the campaign (and the Democratic leadership) has more moxie than any and all of us ever thought they did.

Hope I'm right!

[grantcart]

1. good catch

[PretzelWarrior]

2. FINALLLY!! The end is near.

this long, long road will be over and we can move ON to November and an old white man @ss kicking contest.

[rwenos]

4. This is not the End

"This is not the beginning of the end. But it may well be the end of the beginning."

--Winston Churchill, 1941

The point is, the ONLY thing that matters is electing a Dem in November. What a thrill to celebrate an Obama inauguration! Can you IMAGINE the grimace Junior will have at the swearing-in ceremony? And then, CHENEY DOES THE PERP WALK.

It's beautiful, man.

KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE PRIZE.

[cliffordu]

3. Good post!!

[curious one]

5. The end is near. HRC accomplished nothing positive in her pursue of

presidency. She has lost her reputation, clout, influence, future political, ...

[Youphemism]

6. The ruling is not the problem

The problem is not that Hillary could win. She can't. The problem is that, in the process of pursuing this issue in the manner she is, she is stirring up anger and resentment that will divide democrats in November.

Hillary already knows she is not going to get the delegates she needs out of this ruling. She appears ready to make a scene there, and then to claim that voters have been treated unfairly once the ruling is announced.

There is no endgame scenario in which she wins. But there are several in which she can cause Obama to lose in November. That's why I don't understand why any superdelegate, whether Pro-Clinton or Pro-Obama, would not commit now, to minimize the impact. The meeting itself and the few days that follow before the end of the Primary could see people getting pretty worked up.

Honestly, I question the party loyalty of any superdelegate holding out at this point. And I would suggest that any superdelegate who doesn't commit within a few days of the end of the primary really doesn't give a crap about the democratic party winning in November.

[jaysunb]

7. The Clinton era has passed

they just need to get the memo.....:evilfrown: