OK..."She wasn't the only one crying. There was a whole lot of white people cryin'." What's NEXT?

[indimuse]

This seems a regular occurance at that church and Obama sat silent for 20 years while this kind of hate filled antics and incitement was going on.
This IS the Obama's Underlying Themee...Can't you see it? This will cost THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY the WHITE HOUSE!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H11x6bMu4Y ::::: VIDEO HERE ::::

"Pfleger, who practices black liberation theology," and who is "a regular guest speaker at Trinity church," was introduced by Sen. Obama's new pastor, Rev. Otis Moss III, who "called Pfleger a 'brother beloved, he is a preacher par-excellence, he is a prophetic powerful pulpiteer'," Klein wrote. "After Pfleger's remarks about Clinton, Moss thanked Pfleger repeatedly."

Pfleger told the Trinity congregation, "We must be honest enough to expose white entitlement and supremacy wherever it raises its head."

He continued: "Reverand Moss, when Hillary was crying, and people said that was put on, I really don't believe it was put on. I really believe that she just always thought, 'This is mine. I'm Bill's wife. I'm white. And this is mine. I just got to get up and step into the plate.'

"And then out of nowhere came, hey, I'm Barack Obama. And she said, 'Oh damn, where did you come from? I'm white. I'm entitled. There's a black man stealing my show.'"

Pfleger then mimicked Clinton crying as the audience erupted into applause and gave Pfleger's remarks a standing ovation. Clinton has become emotional during several interviews this year, and some media commentators have questioned her sincerity.

In his sermon, Pfleger added, "She wasn't the only one crying. There was a whole lot of white people cryin'."

Apparently realizing his remarks might attract media attention, Pfleger stated, "I'm sorry. I don't want to get you into any more trouble."

Moss then took the stage, stating, "We thank God for the message, and we thank God for the messenger. We thank God for Father Michael Pfleger. We thank God for Father Mike."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24882600/

Obama's "white supremacy and black inferiority" non-responsive answer

Three weeks earlier, to the day, Sen. Obama appeared May 4, 2008, on Meet the Press with Tim Russert, who first cited Rev. Jeremiah Wright as saying "that one of the essential facts about the U.S. is, 'We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God'." Russert then pointed out what Wright had said was "so contrary to a speech I heard you gave yesterday about one nation, one people," to which Obama responded "Right", followed by a back and forth with Russert. Note that ultimately Obama was, in legal terms, non-responsive to Russert's question.

MR. RUSSERT: So you knew in ‘07…

SEN. OBAMA: Right.

MR. RUSSERT: …”This guy’s a problem. I have to keep him out of the spotlight involving my campaign.”

SEN. OBAMA: Right. Sure.

MR. RUSSERT: Why didn’t you just say then, “You know, Reverend, we’re going on different paths because this country does not believe in white supremacy and black inferiority.”

SEN. OBAMA: Right. Well, my commitment, as I said, Tim, is to the church, not to a pastor.<[[THe Church it appears, is a BEACON of HATE of WHITE PEOPLE!!!))) And I think that’s shared by millions of people who are going to church this morning. You, you join a church community, and Reverend Wright helped build a wonderful church community, one that has been a pillar of good works in Chicago, and, you know, I feel a great loyalty to that church. Reverend Wright was going to be retiring in a year, and I thought it was important for me to maintain my commitment to that church.[/i>
http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com/2008/05/klein-hillary-believed-shed-win-cause.html :::: MEET THE PRESS INTERVIEW HERE::: scroll down and click on VIDEO!


UPDATE: Obama campaign scrubs 'Hillary white supremacist' pastor from website. Farrakhan-linked reverend was official faith rep for presidential candidate

In a May 29, 2008, update, Aaron Klein reports:

scrubbed from its official website a testimonial by a close associate and spiritual adviser who claimed Sen. Hillary Clinton cried in public because she thought being white entitled her to the Democratic presidential nomination.


Klein writes that only hours after the story broke, Sen. Obama's campaign removed a testimonial by Pfleger from the "Faith" section of its website although an archived version is still available.

Obama also denounced Pfleger, who reportedly represented the presidential candidate's campaign at faith gatherings:

“As I have traveled this country, I've been impressed not by what divides us, but by all that that unites us. That is why I am deeply disappointed in Father Pfleger's divisive, backward-looking rhetoric, which doesn't reflect the country I see or the desire of people across America to come together in common cause," he said.


http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/29/looking-forward-to-a-barack-presidency/ ::: SCRUBBED!:::



http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/priest-and-obam.html
Priest and Obama Ally Mocks Clinton's Tears from Obama's Church's Pulpit
May 29, 2008 3:34 PM

Father Michael Pfleger, a fiery liberal social activist and a white reverend at an African-American church -- St. Sabina’s Catholic Church on the South Side of Chicago -- is a longtime friend and associate of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois,
(( http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0716/p01s01-uspo.htm )) having known him since the presidential hopeful was a community activist. In September, the Obama campaign brought Pfleger to Iowa to host one of several interfaith forums for the campaign.

Their relationship spans decades. Pfleger has given money to Obama's campaigns and Obama as a state legislator directed at least $225,000 towards social programs at St. Sabina's, according to the Chicago Tribune. http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-0705030035may03,0,7803217.story





"Black America Will WAKE UP!" ~ Michelle Obama





BRUSH THOSE SHOULDERS BARACK OBAMA!!


If your bishop isn't doing his job, contact: Giovanni Battista Cardinal Re Prefect, Congregation for Bishops Piazza Pio XII, 10 00193 Vatican City, Italy, Europe Phone: [phone].

In case of liturgical abuse, contact: Francis Cardinal Arinze Prefect, Congregation for Divine Worship and Sacraments Piazza XII, 10 00193 Vatican City, Italy, Europe Phone: [phone].

[trumad]

1. Hagee is 100 times worse than this guy

The only thing that will cost the dems the white house is idiot shit like this posted by idiot democrats.

[indimuse]

mc cain did NOT attend his chuch for 20 years!

This guy was on the campaign trail with Obama! He is currently attacking WHITE PEOPLE in church...Obama's CHURCH!

[rucky]

7. Listen to yourself.

[indimuse]

14. did you wahch the cl ip? any of them?

? did you read what I posted....IT IS ALL OVER THE WEB AGAIN!

[rucky]

39. Yes, I saw the clips.

Yes, I read what you posted.

Yes, it's all over the web again.

And yes, your concern has been noted.

[Mezzo]

82. obviously not, since you think Hagee compares somehow, which is just bizarre.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

163. YOU LINK TO A SICK RACIST WEBSITE IN YOUR OP

NO QUARTERUSA IS LOADED WITH PERVERTS AND RACISTS.

[k8conant]

60. Obama did not attend Pfleger's church for 20 years

either.

[SeaLyons]

96. but he has had a relationship with him for 20 years...

[CTLawGuy]

84. If you are defending McCain you are on the WRONG site

NT

[madwivoter]

110. Thanks for stating the obvious

Ugh, why does it seem like so many people are so quick to step in and defend McCain at the expense of Obama? Their motives become quite obvious...

Rhetorical question...just wanted to say thanks.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

162. The OP writer links to a right wing racist site AND defends McCain AGAINST Obama

why isn't this thread locked and deleted???

[newmajority]

150. Yep.

Defends McLoon. Has a CIA thug's propaganda blog in it's bookmarks. 99 of its links are from right wing sites. Inditroll is no Democrat.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

160. It looks like McCain recruited trolls for DU as well as for

Daily Kos.

[The Doctor.]

121. Wow, you don't even realize how far off the deep end you've gone...

Tell us what Obama did wrong.

[roguevalley]

148. deleted because it won't change a thing.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

158. INDIMUSE defending John McCain?

I hear that he is looking for trolls to post on blogs.

[JoFerret]

168. I can defend McCain (and will)

when he is attacked for all the wrong reasons.
Fairness demands that.
That said - I would never urge anyone to vote for him.

[still_one]

18. and the pathetic thing is the media gives mccain a free pass on hagee

you are right hagee is a 100 times worse

This isn't an issue, but what the Democrats will need to do is what the media won't

Discuss that the high cost of energy and food is due to the phil graham "enron" loophole which both bush and mccain support

What mccain would mean to the Supreme Court

The difference between the Democrats and mccain on the Iraq war, healthcare, medicare, social security, jobs, lack of regulation in the banking industry

What they also need to expose is mccain's voting recored, where he supported bush's policies 98% of the time.

The question becomes this, if you want a conntinuation of the bush policies, vote for mccain

otherwise vote for the Democrat

[Arkansas Granny]

29. I don't think anything posted about this subject on DU will have any direct

impact on Obama's campaign when a simple search of google news already yields numerous hits.

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=father+pfleger&ie=UTF-8

After seeing how the current resident of the White House has used religion to advance his "ideals", Obama's connections to church and outspoken and controversial religious leaders are sure to be examined.

[Straight Shooter]

135. Hagee should be defrocked

Phleger should be censured

I consider myself a Catholic, although lapsed Catholic is more like it. I'm so disgusted by the heinous attitudes of representatives of the Catholic Church. That includes Donohue, or whatever his name is. The Church is beginning to look like a freak show.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

159. YOU should be defrocked. The biggest sin was committed by Hillary - voting for the immoral war

she can go to hell for that, you know.

[Straight Shooter]

165. Get over yourself already. n/t

[JoFerret]

166. I try to avoid all of them but you are probably right. However

this one sounds like a particularly poisonous pandering baiting pastor.

[WeDidIt]

2. Good to see you have the new talking points today

Tell everybody in that camp pushing discord between Clinton supporters and Obama supporters we all said hi!

:hi:

We've got the number on this.

[indimuse]

5. this just happened and it is ALL over the WEB!

!

[WeDidIt]

8. So anmyhthing freaked out preachers say is Obama's fault now?

Got to hell with that bullshit.

[Clovis Sangrail]

75. same smear... different day

don't you feel good doing your part to make sure 'it's ALL over the WEB!'?
;)

[vssmith]

155. Oh! Oh! Obama's first grade teacher just said an offensive thing

Censure her! censure her!

[casus belli]

3. Was this Obama's fault too?

I must have missed the connection. I'm pretty sure he was somewhere else when this speech was given.

[indimuse]

10. it is a pattern... These are his people!

This guy was on the campaygn trail! He has been raising money for Obamaa.. AND Obama DO NATES to his church! BIG$$$! Why don't you read instead of attacking the messenger??

[casus belli]

19. Why don't I read?

You seem to be the one having trouble keeping things in context. Your hate blinds you to reason, and this argument has been played before. Good luck with whatever it is you're trying to accomplish.

[indimuse]

26. my hate?

I LOVE Everybody! But it looks like...The people from Bo's Church ...DO NOT!

[casus belli]

36. You've got a weird definition of love.

I don't usually tear people down as a sign of affection. And given your inability to find anything positive to say about Obama, I'm guessing you're not being totally on the level with yourself.

I don't harbor any animosity towards you. I don't even care that every other post of yours tries to cut up my choice of candidate. But I wouldn't be disappointed if you decided to lighten up a little. We all know what it feels like to not have your candidate win. We were there with you in 2000, and 2004, when we ALL felt the way you do now. But this isn't George Bush. This is our candidate. He's not your enemy.

[indimuse]

53. Excuse me..

I'm Not the one in God's house TEARING DOWN the Ex First Lady of this country! I am simply posting THE NEW STORY OF THE DAY!

It' taken a long time..
But the lessons been learned..
Now silence is broken
And I'm not afraid

I looked inside.. and realized
What the mirror couldn't see..
Now no more fear.. and everything's clear
Cuz the answer is the power..within me...

Surrender Yourself To Yourself!

[Raineyb]

122. Your hate for Obama has been obvious for quite some time

And it's quite blinding.

I often think that the reason so many white people don't want a black candidate or president is because they believe that somehow when black people get the reins of power they will use it as disgustingly as many white folks have used it for years. And despite the fact that they refuse to do anything about it because they were benefiting from it, they know that it was wrong.

Amazing how it was good enough for black people yet not so outrageous that they may actually get up off their asses to do something about it but they don't want to be subjected to similar treatment.

All this despite Obama bending over backwards to mention race as infrequently as possible. It's simply a sight to see.

:popcorn:

Regards

[Skidmore]

30. Oh? And who are your "people?"

I think this thread of yours is more telling about you than Obama.

[indimuse]

68. NOT what I was saying....NICE TRY!

Obama 's people! You...anyone who defends this kind of behavior! Mocking people..in the HOUSE OF THE LORD! you guys tw9ist everything. sad!

[Skidmore]

89. I imagine the Lord is up there having a good laugh watching

foolish mortals anyway. Sad to say that some of the most inhumane acts in the history of this nation have been initiated and carried out by people filling the pews in the HOUSE OF THE LORD! and it is those who gasp in horror that perpetuate the undue importance given religion in this nation now. Sorry, I just can't join you in your sanctimonious outrage, let alone your concern with labelling "people."

[Barrymores Ghost]

140. WHY NOT USE A FEW MORE ALL CAPS?

MAYBE THE LORD WILL HEAR YOU BETTER IF YOU SHOUT LOUDER, AND THEN HE'LL SEND A LIGHTNING BOLT TO SMITE ALL OF US DIVISIVE, OBAMA-SUPPORTING HEATHENS!!!!!

[yourguide]

32. People did read and are attacking because

the "message" is twisted and fatally flawed.

[madwivoter]

112. Who is the messenger?

And exactly what is the message being delivered?

Thank about it.

[The Doctor.]

133. Uhhh... so pastor Wright and Pfleger are the only people he knows?

Look you stark-raving fool; Obama has hundreds of people that could be considered 'close associates'. You pick up the two or three the Media hands you to go apoplectic over because you have nothing to attack Obama over.

Let me repeat that; You have NOTHING that you can legitimately criticize him for, so you yell and scream over what... two people out of the hundreds, perhaps even thousands of friends and associates he has?

When these issues cam up, Obama condemned their words and declared that he is not to be associated with such rhetoric.

Do you see Obama people attacking Clinton for Ferraro's words still? Guess what, any Obama supporter who knows that Clinton rejected Ferraro's remarks doesn't pull the childish bullshit you are pulling here. They don't blame Clinton for someone else's bullshit the way you blame Obama for words that aren't his. If you find anyone doing it, tell me and I will personally educate them, let them know that Clinton has distanced herself, and then admonish them if they keep it up.

That's what rational people do.

Unfortunately, there seem to be too few rational Clinton people left to reign irrational freaks like you in.

You can alert now.

[WeDidIt]

11. ANYTHING a preacher says is Obama's fault

That's the newest anti-Obama pro-McCain talking point.

[rucky]

4. If you spent half this energy fighting real enemies...

or maybe you really think you are?

[Ian David]

6. My goodness... he's White.

[rucky]

9. Where does he get off being against poverty?!

Next you're going to tell me he's anti-war.

[Ian David]

12. Did you miss my intended irony? n/t

[rucky]

40. somebody missed someone's

[indimuse]

13. I geuss this is WAY over youe head!

The MSM is about to BURST with more! HOW can this be good for the GE?? It is handing the GE to Mc CAIN!!

[WeDidIt]

16. Bullshit

[Name removed]

17. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[indimuse]

23. are you a Democrat?

Hillary DID NOT CALL for Bo's assassination! FACT! you know it! stay on subject! This is more damaging than you think! The MSM and MC Cain... wll play into the theme....Obama hates WHITES! mark my words.... this is already viral.

[hokies4ever]

28. About 15 more threads, I'm counting them down

:rofl:

[indimuse]

51. you're in good mood...

:)

[hokies4ever]

57. You always crack me up indimuse!

Alright, we obviously don't agree on politics or on who the Dem nominee is. But I do enjoy your tenacity to fight for Hillary. You ought to be on her campaign. You'd fight for her even if she tried to convince you that it's over, which it will most likely be sometime around the middle of June.

[indimuse]

61. I will take ANY compliment from a BO fan..LOL!

Thanks hokies4ever :hug: I DO NOT hate Obama...I just feel Hill is the better of the 2..and there is so much we STILL don't know about Barack...Could be very detrimental in the GE! peace.

[hokies4ever]

74. You're welcome :-)

:hug:

However, a word of advice for you. It is possible to make some of your points without so much dramatic effect. Look at Pfleger's remarks for example. These remarks are considered controversial mostly because of the theatrics surrounding them and their setting (in the pulpit of a church), and not so much because of the message itself. Many of the TV pundits criticizing Pfleger have made similar comments on TV. Obama does have many passionate supporters on this site, but more (like myself) will listen to reasonable criticism and respond thoughtfully. But if it has theatrics and drama surrounding it, then expect theatrics and drama in return. :rofl:

[Ian David]

48. I agree, She did NOT "Call For" his assassination. She just exploited its possibility. n/t

[rodeodance]

115. only idiots believe that!! Even your leader Obama has backtracked on that stupid assumption!!

[HCE SuiGeneris]

117. Only imbeciles believe otherwise !! !! !! !! !! !! !!

Don't ya just love exclamation points!!!???? !! !! !! !!

[rodeodance]

143. so, what obama says means nothing to you and you will continue with your vile posts.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

146. You are so deluded that no matter how I respond,

you would still spew your nonsensical drivel... All rationale thought for you has been clouded by irrational hatred and unfounded bias.

[rodeodance]

147. Obama said it was gaffe. so drop it please--if you persist you just tell the world

that obama's words means nothing to you.

[CTLawGuy]

85. he hates WHITES????

He's sure running in a country with a lot of em... perhaps he might be more suited to run for President of Liberia :sarcasm:

[The Doctor.]

134. Are you?

[Warren Stupidity]

87. "I geuss this is WAY over youe head!"

Spluttering keyboarditis. One of the tell-tale signs of moranity. Detach padawan.

[hokies4ever]

15. indimuse: you've said MUCH worse things here at DU

but don't let that stop you from throwing stones from a glass house. :rofl:

"Obama's "white supremacy and black inferiority" non-responsive answer"

Careful now, don't want to be tombstoned. :rofl:

[indimuse]

22. I'm not saying much...

I don't have to. The video and words...say it ALL! :)

[hokies4ever]

24. About 5 days from now Obama will be the presumptive nominee

So you have about 15 more threads on GD:P to try to take down Obama. It's a tall task, but you've never backed down from it. Keep giving it your best shot. 15 more threads until it's over. :rofl:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. I Haven't Said Worse Here So I Can Opine

I thought the pastor's attack on Hillary Clinton were mean spirited, ill advised, and hateful...

I think the good priest should read John 4: 20-21...

[indimuse]

31. I will look that up.

My point here... is.. How can this be good for his GE campaign? This pattern? This man was on the trail with Obama in Iowa. Very long and DEEP relationship ..AGAIN! A theme. Why is everything from his church...Black against White or the reverse?

[hokies4ever]

35. "Very long and DEEP relationship"

You seem a little bit too happy about this new pastor. I'm just saying. "Everything from his church" is not black against white.

[hokies4ever]

34. My analysis

He probably added that part to his sermon after Hillary's assassination-gate. I find it more than coincidental that this sermon came less than 2 days after assassination-gate.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

38. His Remarks Weren't About The Assassination

He was mocking her tears...I have been to Pentecostal, Baptist, Lutheran, Catholic, and Jewish services and have never seen a pastor, priest, or rabbi mock someone for crying...

Call me old school but I think preachers need to go back to talking about God...

[hokies4ever]

42. That's not the point

He was clearly taking a shot at Hillary for taking a shot at Obama.

[gaspee]

124. So that makes it OK?

Nice playground mentality.

Mocking a human being when he's supposed to be preaching - what a man of god! I can feel the love all the way from here. How utterly christian of him.

Whether you like it or not, this stuff is going to be an issue.

Just like the fucking swiftboaters were in '04 -- all we dems were all, "no one is fucking stupid enough to believe that bullshit! BUsh is a deserter and Kerry volunteered - no way this crap can be used against him..."

Well, guess what? We're not dealing with an overabundance of genius with the American electorate.

Obama will win the nomination. Obama will lose the general.

And I'm looking at *you* when I talk about the genius of the American electorate, Mr - it's OK for a priest to mock someone because I'm an idiot who thinks she wants to assassinate Obama!

[indimuse]

67. do you thinnk the MSM and average person cares WHY?

just sayin...:)

[Straight Shooter]

136. John 4:20-21

20 If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. 21 And he has given us this command: Whoever loves God must also love his brother.

[sniffa]

167. Yes, but she says them in large, colored fonts

Big difference

[yourguide]

20. Second verse, same as the first...

yawn.

[yourguide]

21. Second verse, same as the first...

yawn.

[Lerkfish]

27. cool! another xeroxed post from clintonis44.com

or whereever.

you guys really like to cut and paste.

[indimuse]

33. another empty comment from a Bo fan..

...

[hokies4ever]

37. HRC is done son!

Get over it! Hillary's campaign has about 6 days left! :rofl:

[indimuse]

50. NOT!

SYATC!

[hokies4ever]

54. SYATC!: Dumbest battlecry ever!

:rofl:

[indimuse]

69. really???

let it sink...let it sink... LOL!!

[Lerkfish]

93. hey, at least I'm not mimeographing my faux outrage like a RWer.

and he IS the nominee. deal with it. Get behind him and support him come next week, or make some hard decisions.

[boobooday]

41. What he said doesn't bother me

White privilege is real. Big deal. What does it even matter? Do you think Obama is going to impose reverse Jim Crow? Is "Black America waking up" frightening to you? Michelle is obviously talking about a political awakening, and how is that bad?

Sincerely,
White woman, unoffended

[hokies4ever]

44. I agree with his message

but I think people will make a big deal about his theatrics and the setting (in a pulpit) that he gave these remarks in.

Personally, I cracked up laughing at some of his comments, essentially the 'It's my turn!' philosophy.

[DangerousRhythm]

78. I have to admit...

My husband and I laughed LOUDLY when he said "Oh, daaaamn!!"

Like, the kind of laughter that leaves you gasping for air and in pain.

:rofl:

[hokies4ever]

79. Same here!

Plus you know that some of those TV pundits found it funny too. I know they're just holding in their laughter praying that they don't get fired for laughin on the set. :rofl:

[DangerousRhythm]

169. Haha, I know!

Mika (whatever her last name is, oops) this morning, more than once looked like she was stifling a laugh or a big smile after they'd show those clips. It was kind of hilarious.

:rofl:

[indimuse]

45. again you miss the point of this NEW Story...

It doesn't matter what you and I here in our safe place...DU.. This is fresh ammo for the RWMSM and McCain. ABC...MSNBC..(yes, even them) CNN.. NY TImes, Chicago Trib.. FOX.. are running it now. Fresh Ammo... this man is deeply connected to BO and his campaign.. please read entire post.. I've given links etc..

[boobooday]

52. The GOP has nothing

They would find plenty of ammo for Hillary too, but I would hope that it would not be Democrats handing it to them.

[hokies4ever]

81. If you think the Repukes don't have any ammo against Hillary

then you've been living in a coma for the past couple of decades. FOX News routinely hosts guests who accuse Hillary of having murdered Vincent Foster.

[tekisui]

43. I question your motivation at this point.

[indimuse]

47. excuse me....

it is everywhere... just happened.. are you not concerned about the GE? my God...this is fact..I'm posting BREAKING NEWS!! read entire post before commenting..please.

[tekisui]

55. And then I see you defend McCain. Whatever....

[indimuse]

71. how so?

yuk!

[indimuse]

72. how so?

yuk!

[dems_rightnow]

46. I'm convinced

I won't be voting Pfleger this fall.

[indimuse]

49. well. me either.

Did you read where Hillary said Obama's apology was NOT enough?

[gal]

99. Well I don't think Hillary's apology on the assination was enough either...

I don't think Obama should have to apologize for someone else. What kind of apology is that?
He did not do it nor did he cause it..Obama has nothing to apologize for here.

[here_is_to_hope]

107. Did you read where 99.9 of us dont give a fuck?

Man, you are either 12 years old or on crack.

[Marrah_G]

56. What a piece of shit that guy is

Isn't it illegal to use the pulpit to campaign?

My gripe is with this smarmy preacher and not with Obama. Obama isn't responsible for this guy.

[indimuse]

66. Church and State is ignored at this particular church!

...

[JoFerret]

171. He is one pandering creepoid.

.

[CreekDog]

58. Is this priest on the ballot this fall? ok, good. next issue please.

:eyes:

[papapi]

129. ditto

[papapi]

130. boring

[JoFerret]

170. Hope not. He is one sicko

I don't want to deal with.

[livingmadness]

59. 4 more days indi ... 4 more days!

[indimuse]

63. Love the "Queen Bitch! "

what evah...livingmadness time will tell...:)

[Blondbostonian]

65. Will you support the Democratic Nominee, Indimuse? Even if it's Obama?

Yes or no please.

[gaspee]

125. I know you weren't asking me,

But no, I will not vote for Obama come November.

[livingmadness]

76. Lol. Had to change the hair color - she is in fact a blonde,

but thought I'd have you Hillary supporters accusing me of depicting her on something :scared: :eyes: (plus I'm a brunette). Can't be too careful!!

[Vinca]

62. Is the Clinton campaign responsible for releasing this tape?

Was this Hillary's "secret?" I can't imagine anyone in their right mind taking comments from a GUEST pastor speaking at a service Obama DID NOT attend as somehow attributable to Obama. The timing - right before the rules meeting - is a bit suspect, to say the least.

[indimuse]

64. Just happened... I highly doubt it was Hillary!

Why are you blaming her? This is AGAIN Obama's Church...Did you even read the story? Every News outlet is carrying it! As far as the Oct surprise...this can't be it..I think it is Michelle...kinda saying some very questionable stuff in this church, I really don't know?

[Vinca]

70. Yesterday I heard a news report that Hillary had a "secret,"

implying she was going to reveal it before the rules committee and obtain the nomination. Of course, I suppose it's silly to think the Clinton campaign might have someone attending services at this church who has video capability.:sarcasm:

[indimuse]

73. well, I do know.. They have evidence to (video) from several Caucus states,,

don't know what's on them...?

[FlaGranny]

77. This is not so bad.

Maybe this will finally convince the sorely uninformed that Obama is not a Muslim. The not-so-bright can more easily accept a pastor who spouts off than the thought of a "scary" Muslim.

By the way, that guy (the pastor) should be doing stand-up. He made me laugh out loud before I thought "uh oh."

[DangerousRhythm]

80. The visual may actually help, somehow.

Like, among the severely stupid, you know, because he has the Catholic attire on, collar and all. Unless they think Muslims wear Catholic gear.

I know it sounds really dumb, but when you're dealing with the extreme end of the "low information voter"...

Overall, it can't be helpful, but the small bright spot is that maybe it'll numb people to the whole pastor thing? Man, I'm grasping at straws here.

The guy did completely crack me up. The fake outrage of the MSM is annoying though.

:rofl:

[SeaLyons]

108. I think I'd rather have the ignorant think of him as a scary Muslim

than a racist.

[FlaGranny]

113. I'm not sure how he

is a racist against his own race, but I guess it's possible. All I saw, though, was an audiovisual cartoon (stand-up comedy) like the long thread yesterday with lots of penned cartoons in it, some of which were worse than the preacher's routine.

[Warren Stupidity]

83. Obama must denounce the Roman Catholic Church!

But never mind that. How dare you pastorbate without some

BIG ASS COLORED FONTS?

[IsItJustMe]

86. Get over it Rush.

[JTFrog]

88. BITCH! BRAV-F*CKING-O! Go Away, Fatherbatin!

[Doityourself]

90. Sorry, Pfleger can not save Hillary. It's done.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

91. This is another Flag Burning, welfare-queen, lapel pin, gay agenda, "issue" pushed by the right.

Fortunately, this one is too silly to last no matter how the likes of Rush push it.

[gaspee]

128. Yeah

And we all know how well those worked - nothing to worry about...

:sarcasm:

[backscatter712]

92. Did Rush Limbaugh give you this talking point himself?

Boy, you must be real special...

*plonk*

[JVS]

94. I think those crying white people he was talking about are present in good numbers here.

[Hope And Change]

95. indimuse: I understand you are desperate but it won`t help.

Have a nice day :hi:

[ecstatic]

97. you included!

[SeaLyons]

98. Indimuse, this is a great post...

unfortunately, Obama supporters are not capable of seeing the magnitude of this. They obviously are so hell bent on Obama being our nominee, that they are not willing to see the danger of losing the GE in Nov.

I believe we have only seen a snippet of what's to come. Once he is our nominee, the RW is going to have this type of shit on the news everyday.

[smiley_glad_hands]

102. LOL Magnitude?

[gal]

100. Your responses in this thread sound like your about to hyperventilate..

You need to take several deep breaths...Our candidate is not responsible for every preacher, pastor, and religious speaker in this country. He will be just fine.

[smiley_glad_hands]

101. She's lost. Move on.

[Writer]

103. Seriously - I have to know - is this what some people truly believe?

Deep down, under the surface? I saw so many parishioners rise and cheer as he said what he said.

[barack the house]

104. To my mind it is educating America to see what we have to work beyond....

Pfleger was just a guest it is another loose connection of to priest, who does a lot for his community and does his best to relate to his congregation.. Obama wouldn't be calling for unity if their wasn't a huge need for it.

[ensho]

105. "pulpiteer" what an interesting word

I've never heard it before.

are pulpiteers paid? how many pulpiteers do the catholics have?

do other religions have pulpiteers?

[Beacool]

106. I don't get one thing.

How can a white guy practice "black liberation theology" and why is the Catholic church allowing this priest to do so in the first place???

"Pfleger, who practices black liberation theology," and who is "a regular guest speaker at Trinity church," was introduced by Sen. Obama's new pastor, Rev. Otis Moss III, who "called Pfleger a 'brother beloved, he is a preacher par-excellence, he is a prophetic powerful pulpiteer'," Klein wrote. "After Pfleger's remarks about Clinton, Moss thanked Pfleger repeatedly."

I'm sorry, but hate is hate, even if it's directed at one's own people.

I rather stick to my Lutheran church, thank you very much.....

[Jen-MI]

109. What was really offensive....

link: http://online.wsj.com/article/best_of_the_web_today.html

In his Trinity United oration, Pfleger asserted that white people have a moral obligation to surrender their assets, which, he suggested, properly belong to blacks (the video clip begins in midsentence):

--honest enough to address the one who says, "Well, don't hold me responsible for what my ancestors did." But you have enjoyed the benefits of what your ancestors did and unless you are ready to give up the benefits , throw away your 401 fund, throw away your trust fund, throw away all the money you put into the company you walked into because yo' daddy and yo' granddaddy and yo' greatgranddaddy----unless you're willing to give up the benefits, then you must be responsible for what was done in your generation 'cuz you are the beneficiary of this insurance policy!

____________________________________________________________________________________________________

WTF?? Why did he say that? I didn't really care for what he said about Hillary, but this is just plain ridiculous! Stupid people who say such garbage are responsible for racial tensions/racism. That is just plain stupid imo! What was he thinking?? Oh, and I would like to know where my 401 fund and all the money that my dad's/granddad's company has that belongs to me went?? My great-grandfather came directly from Denmark.

[gaspee]

127. Don't forget

To give your house and land to Native Americans...

This guy is fricking nuts.

Obama is unelectable in the GE - too bad no ones in the dem party wants to face facts.

[rodeodance]

111. Ed Schultz just said on AA--BHO needs to find a new church!! --He is right.

[Raineyb]

131. No he's not

I don't give a damn what Obama's church does. His church is not running for president. It's a lot of bloody nerve for someone to tell another what church they may or may not belong to. Obama doesn't need your permission and his church doesn't need your sanction.

Are you giving HRC's fellowship this much scrutiny? No. I didn't think so and her church is much more problematic. But you hardly see any mention of it at all.

Regards

[rodeodance]

144. whatever

[Raineyb]

157. "Whatever"

The last desperate cry of a person with no argument.

Regards

[totodeinhere]

114. Are you ever going to let this go? Everyone knows it's just much adieu about nothing.

Clinton supporters are faking outrage over this in their attempt to grasp at any straw. But it won't work. It's already over.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

116. Indimuse, this is a great post.

Unfortunately, people will think you're a deluded, knee jerk Clinton supporter, instead of just satirically imitating one.

[Barrymores Ghost]

142. She forget to attach a winky-face emoticon.

Doh.

[msallied]

118. Wow. You really are an asshat.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

120. Agree wholeheartedly.

[nichomachus]

119. Did he mention assassination? Hillary did. Shame on her.

[Dinger]

123. Hmmmmm . . .

All I'm sayin'.

[Faygo Kid]

126. This is the biggest bunch of nothing yet. Take your cowbell to DC on Saturday and enjoy.

What a load of crap this whole "controversy" is. Worst yet.

The clock is ticking, indimuse. Enjoy your postings now. Soon - very soon - we will have a nominee, and it won't be Hillary. No matter how much intimidation she calls for tomorrow.

[Overseas]

132. DESPERATE OBAMA BASHING continues -- Superdelegates, please stop the Ickes machine !!

Enough already, Harold Ickes wants his Clintons to give us the Dynastic Succession we deserve. It seems like since they can't get it now, they're smearing Obama so they can take over from McLame in 2012. Superdelegates, please stop the gross Ickes team. Obama bashing from the right is very different from "big tent" Democrats smearing a fellow Democrat due to a guest speaker at his church. Hang that disgusting crap up already.

[Terran]

137. I just cleared my Ignore List...

but you're going back on it. You are the WORST.

[Barrymores Ghost]

138. WHO's being racially divisive? Why, Hillary Clinton, of course.

"{The Associated poll} shows that Senator Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans -- white Americans -- is weakening again...whites {in Indiana and North Carolina} who had not completed college were supporting me...There's a pattern emerging here...These are the people you have to win if you're a Democrat in sufficient numbers to actually win the election. Everybody knows that." ~ Hillary Clinton -- May 7, 2008.

Isn't it racially divisive to equate "working Americans" and "hard working Americans" with "white Americans"? This is far more offensive then anything I've heard Obama's pastors say. And Clinton herself made these comments -- publicly! What will the world think of us if we elect a candidate who brags that she appeals best to "hard working, white Americans"? What will we think of ourselves?

Yep. There is a pattern emerging...for sure. First, it begins with Bill's South Carolina/Jesse Jackson crack, then moves on to Hillary supporter Geraldine Ferraro's assertion that Obama was only a contender because of his skin color (and Hillary was SO outraged over that bit of racist idiocy, wasn't she?), then we get Hillary's hint at "electability" comments, then it's her "white people voted for me" comment, and now she's truly arrived with her anything-can-happen-in-June-including-assassination tack.

The "lady" has no fucking shame, and no clue. Neither does anyone around her...and that includes her drooling, sycophantic followers that post drivel like what you've copied and pasted into your "OP."

[anonymous171]

139. OH NOES! BLACK AMERICA IS WAKING UP!

Please kill yourself now. :puke:

[Warren DeMontague]

141. Thank you for your concern.

What's a "themee"?

[scheming daemons]

145. In what universe is Obama even 1% responsible for the words of a Catholic Priest doing a guest

sermon at his church?


And



Obama denounced what the guy said about 10 minutes after the video hit the news. What more could he possibly do?



Please... Hillary folks.... give me ONE LOGICAL reason how what this guy said has ANYTHING AT ALL to do with Barack Obama?


Are you seriously saying that he is responsible for every word ever uttered by anyone in his church? Think about that....

[deaniac21]

153. Not to mention scrubbing him from the Obama website, as well.

[shadowknows69]

149. I'm failing to see the inaccuracies of his statements

[deaniac21]

151. What kills me is that these guys are Obama supporters. They

know this hurts him but they do it for their own publicity. Not Good.

[VotesForWomen]

152. a lot of O-ists really don't have a clue how this stuff plays in the rest of the country. nt

[CaptJasHook]

154. Or a lot of us don't care.

There will always be something to attack a candidate. If it isn't one manufactured outrage it is another. Hillary has proven that.

I couldn't give a shit about Wright, Hagee, or this new nutjob. They are all crazy enough not just to worship some mythical extraterrestrial Sun God, but to actually become a spokesperson for said Mythos.

Anyone who sits in a church for twenty years is going to hear crazy shit.

[Warren DeMontague]

156. Speaking of no clue how stuff plays: Scotty McClellan admits that the Iraq War was a huge mistake.

Yet Hillary Clinton still can't.

You know what DOESN'T "play", anywhere, except for a few rapidly shrinking Hillary echo chambers?

Bullshit about "You better nominate Hillary, or you're gonna be sorrrrrrrrrryyyyyyy!!!"

She's NOT going to be the Nominee.

If you're a DEMOCRAT, you ought to start thinking about how to SUPPORT OUR NOMINEE and ensure that OUR NOMINEE wins in November.

[Barrymores Ghost]

161. Alot of WVWV'ers don't know how illegal robo-calls...

...made by Hillary staffers and other shills play out in the rest of the country. I can assure you that there are many out there who haven't forgotten that cheap stunt.

[Drunken Irishman]

173. How does it play?

Has Obama's campaign sunk? We heard, from people like you, that Obama would crash because of Rev. Wright, it didn't happen.

Do you think a WHITE CATHOLIC priest is going to hurt Obama's campaign?

[Hamlette]

164. With Bill and Hillary's non stop drama and all the scum those antics bring out

sniper fire, mark rich, bimbos, Whitewater, billing at Rose law firm, donations to the Clinton library, turning instances when states break the rules into causes, etc etc etc

oh, yeah, and we'll lose in November because people will come to see her for what I have come to see. An opportunist who cares for no one but herself.

If you've lost me, a staunch Clinton supporter for 16 years, a Hillary supporter in this election until early 2008, a feminist lawyer aged 58. What hope do you have of victory in November.

You think the red neck/racist/poor/uneducated vote is that big you don't need educated liberals or blacks?

I don't.

[peoli]

172. Whats next? Hillary Clinton starts working for Obama next week! That's whats next!

[dchill]

174. What's NEXT? - Barack Obaminee!

:shrug:

[earth mom]

175. It is OVER for Obama if the majority of the U.S. sees this. And they will!

I am disgusted that this is the message that Obama has been listening to every Sunday for 20 something years!

Now Obama is trying to sell the people of the United States "unity and hope" packaged all pretty by Oprah when it's really a SHIT sandwich!

Unity and Hope MY ASS!!! :puke: :puke: :puke: