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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:36 AM
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If you're Hillary's strategist, how do you spin Obama's latest 'pastor problem'
to help her? FL and MI will most likely only be reinstated to a 50% delegate level tomorrow, so you need to get back on the 'electability' theme. This sermon appears to have came less than 2 days after Hillary's assassination comments. If I was her strategist, I would seriously contemplate trying to rig up some more controversies, kind of like a war of attrition. Essentially try to raise both hers and Obama's negatives as a last hope for the nomination.

Well, this seems to be Hillary's path to the nomination now. It really is a scorched earth strategy. She's polled most successfully when she drags out Obama's controversies. Bitter-gate was the best example, even sending out flyers about 'clinging to guns' to rural Indiana.

I think this is why the supers will be pressured to vote next week. Hillary's clearest path to the nomination appears to be a scorched earth strategy right now.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:40 AM
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1. They have to come in TODAY
sorry.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:41 AM
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2. I don't, because my paycheck bounced.
:rofl:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:42 AM
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3. She has no path to the nomination. Seriously, there is virtually no
way for her to get the nomination with this or any other tactic. It's just not a big enough deal. She needs Obama with a dead girl/live boy.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:46 AM
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4. Odd man to be in that church. Oh they will make something out
of it. One wonders where they are finding all these people. We used to go down to the place in Boston, near the park, to hear these crazy people. Any one could talk and they did.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:52 AM
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5. hell, I'd just fold my arms and let it play out
this shit keeps happening and if I were a superdelegate I'd the last one to jump on his bandwagon.

HOWEVER, I don't think trying to use it would help her. If I were a superdelegate I'd be disgusted if it were waved in my face by his competition.



If I were a superdelegate I'd be looking for a lifeboat.
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:54 AM
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6. Obama's religious connections may be problematic.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:59 AM
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7. Maybe she can be seen crying about it.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:07 AM
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8. What Pisses Me Off Is That MSNBC's Morning Joe - Even Without Joe Has.......
played the clip of Plaeger at least 4 times in the first half hour of their telecast. Tucker keeps saying - who is Barack Obama? He said - at least with McCain and his Haeger problem - we know who McCain is and we know he doesn't think the way Haeger does - but we don't really know Obama.

And how did we get this video. Is somebody sitting in this church filming every word being said from the pulpit in order to find things to use against Obama.

And how stupid is this Plaeger? Why would he even think of going where he did with his comments after this whole Wright controversy? He's smarter than that. Or is he a Hilliary plant. Is he out there trying to help Hilliary get the nomination? Is he a double agent pastor?
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:11 AM
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9. Tucker has always been against Obama
It's just too bad that Rachel Maddow isn't there to smack him back down to reality.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:13 AM
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10. What is reality?
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:21 AM
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11. A place far away from where you live
:rofl:
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:46 AM
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14. Your posts always have the little laughing guy
I guess that is supposed to tell us when something is funny.

Reality: Obama went to the church for 20 years.
Reality: Obama has a close relationship with PFleger and Wright
Reality: Obama is going to lose the general.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:48 AM
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15. "Obama is going to lose the general"
About a week or two from now that might be a tombstone-worthy statement. Enjoy it while you can. :rofl:

P.S. I love the little laughing guy. He looks hilarious. :patriot:
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:28 AM
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16. what? I am certain we can have discussions about the general and whether or not
Obama can win the election with his baggage without being tombstoned! This is, after all, a democratic board with a variety of opinions and ideas--not just yours.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:34 AM
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18. Obama is not going to lose the general election. Take your RW crap and shove it!
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:06 AM
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24. Of course, cause anyone with a different view than yours
is either racist or right-wing.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:12 AM
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26. Why are you rooting for McCain?
*Tombstone alert!*
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:35 AM
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12. This video probably surfaced in the same way the Wright video did.
You can go to their website and watch the services online and get webcast on demand, for one thing. They also sell tapes of the sermons in their store.

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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:36 AM
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13. I dispute the notion this is Obama's "pastor problem."
How on earth is Obama responsible for what a guest pastor says at a church on a day when Obama was on the other end of the country?
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:29 AM
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17. Responsible? No: the question is, does he carry these same ideals and values?
Not whether or not he was "responsible."

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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:35 AM
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20. 'ideals and values'
What specific 'ideals and values' are you referring to w.r.t. Rev. Pfleger?
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:04 AM
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22. hey, where is your lauging friend?
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:35 AM
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21. Do people share Hillary's 'ideals and values'
of enabling a cheating spouse? Most people are raised to respect themselves a little bit more.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:05 AM
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23. "enabling a cheating spouse" Are you Rush?
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:34 AM
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19. that's why I put it in quotes
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