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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:45 AM
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Clinton: 'You Can't Tell How Far a Frog Will Jump Until You Punch Him'

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/05/clinton-you-can.html

ABC News' Eloise Harper Reports: Facing an increasingly improbable candidacy for the White House, Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., showed no signs of stopping on the trail in South Dakota and cited an old Arkansas, saying in an off-handed reference to her campaign: "you can't tell how far a frog will jump until you punch him."

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"If you will vote for me next Tuesday, you are voting for the most fiscally responsible candidate on either side of the aisle," said Clinton.

Clinton, who has been fighting financial woes in her campaign since February, has argued that she knows more about financial issues than her opponents. When asked previously to explain why that is, Clinton sited her experience from her work as Senator from New York.

Clinton continued to express her exasperation with the press.

"I am tired," said Clinton with exasperation. "I am tired of politicians and people in the press saying we cant do things. We are the can do nation."

Clinton was asked Wednesday night if she really wanted reporters to be more vigorous and aggressive – she said that she does, but on the "right things."

"I really do," insisted Clinton. "I really do. On the right things. On things that are important to the future of our country. On things that really matter. I would love that."
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:47 AM
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1. Fiscally RESPONSIBLE?? I can't stand this anymore.. no wonder she's a punchline for
every comedian and PREACHER in the country ! Gah..
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:55 AM
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5. Exactly . . .
Fiscally responsible in what parallel universe?

I'm amazed she could say that with a straight face.
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:51 AM
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2. Exactly WTH does she think that phrase infers? It's offensive.... and fiscal responsibility? Please.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:52 AM
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4. I have no idea what that analogy means either. I really don't care, but its as weird as she is.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:51 AM
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3. Um.....her campaign is a financial mess.
Edited on Fri May-30-08 08:51 AM by sparosnare
I'd like her to explain why she is saying she's the most fiscally responsible when her campaign proves the opposite.
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Higher Standard Donating Member (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:56 AM
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6. Hillary shouldn't be punching frogs
She's just lost the ASPCA vote. :rofl:
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:58 AM
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8. not to mention PETA
Plunk your magic twanger, Froggie!

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:59 AM
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9. Cue PETA
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:34 PM
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33. And the green vote
It's not easy being green. Especially when politicians keep punching you.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:58 AM
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7. 'You Can't Tell How Far a Frog Will Jump Until You Punch Him'?
This isn't the first time that Bill or Hillary (this goes for other Southern politicians as well) have used a phrase that is completely foreign sounding and strange to me (I live in NY state) and someone has said to me "Oh, that's a well known expression in the South, you've never heard it before?" And I'm still like "Ok...but I still don't get the expression at all."
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:37 PM
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34. Aounds like Dubya is her campaign advisor ... with a pocketful of firecrackers.
:puke:
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:03 AM
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10. Frog analogies in politics are so wrong. You know why? Free association for the word "frog": CROAK.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:17 AM
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16. or... French
:)
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:18 AM
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18. That's totally why Kerry lost. He speaks the language of frogs!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:26 PM
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31. kick for teh silly
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:03 AM
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11. What do Bush and Clinton have against frogs?
George used to blow them up with firecrackers as a demented child, and now Hillary advocates punching them to see how far they'll jump.

:wtf: does that even mean?

And don't get me started on her "fiscal responsibility" lie. :eyes:
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Max_powers94 Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:07 AM
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12. Bill you should lick a few Frogs in stead of Punching them.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:09 AM
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13. "Clinton...has argued that she knows more about financial issues than her opponents."
"When asked previously to explain why that is, Clinton sited her experience from her work as Senator from New York."

A married couple go to Vegas for a vacation. The wife tells her husband she lost $100 at the blackjack tables. "100 dollars?! OMG! How could you?!"

The wife says, "But you lost $600!"

"Yeah, but I know how to gamble!"

Thank you, Buddy Hackett.
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ElboRuum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:16 AM
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14. If you punch a frog...
...I would suspect it would usually just sit there twitching, broken, and dying. Humans outweigh frogs by quite a bit, you know.

I find it difficult to feel much in the way of empathy for Clinton's increasingly obvious predicament when she makes statements like this. I like her moxie, but this isn't looking like a boxing match anymore. It's looking like a schoolyard fight that she started, was beaten, and continues getting up and swinging wildly and with no grace or form long after her opponent has taken pity on her, using only enough force to ward her off and prevent damage to himself.
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Higher Standard Donating Member (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:17 AM
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15. It is a boxing match...
...but apparently it's with a frog.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:20 AM
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22. A "jumping frog"...
With a mean right hook.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:17 AM
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17. pretty much, in other words she looks delusional.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:30 AM
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29. What happens when you use firecrackers with frogs, Hillary?
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:19 AM
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19. lol
true, true

do ppl really punch frogs in arkansas?

what an odd saying
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:19 AM
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20. Now somebody buy me a drink, South Dakota!
:rofl:
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:20 AM
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21. Hillary, pay your fucking bills, especially to your VENDORS...
they need their money, and their employees need their paychecks and their jobs.

Fiscally responsible, my ass.
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:43 PM
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36. Isn't that the truth. Kick. n/t
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:24 AM
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23. This Is Going To Piss Maddy Off!
:rofl:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:43 PM
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38. LOL! and her frog has teeth!
:D

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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:25 AM
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24. I don't even understand the frog reference!
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:26 AM
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25. Why is the Frog a "Him" ? Hillary is a sexist.
more proof.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:26 AM
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26. An old Arkansas saying?
That's total bullshit. That's a saying she just made up so she could sound like a dumb hick instead of a graduate of a fancy women's college and an elite law school.

I will never vote for any politician who dumbs his or herself down just to impress the rubes. This is the 21st century. It's no longer necessary to pander like this no matter what the corporate media might say.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:28 AM
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27. How many punched frogs jump on the head of a pin?
This woman has lost it.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:29 AM
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28. Queen of Pork, the Dutchess of Debt....fiscally responsible!?!?!!?!
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:33 AM
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30. (Singing) She CAN'T tell the croaking chorus from the Frogs of Aristophanes!
  For the record, Senator Clinton, it's the croaking chorus you hear. You're almost to the other side of the river and I hope you brought your coin!

PB
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:30 PM
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32. Hillary's new campaign slogan - "Punching frogs since 1992!"
No wonder her campaign croaked.

(sorry bout that one, had to do it)
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:38 PM
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35. She loves to pick up affectations. Now she's the female Fred Thompson.
She can't decide from day to day if she's "Woman, Hear me Roar" or "Elton John/Barbra Streisand Hollywood Elite" or "Pickup Truck and Beer" or "Scranton Coal Miner's Daughter" or "Liberal Policy Wonk" or "Borderline Republican" or "Chief Advisor During Clinton Years, Responsible For Everything That Was Good" or "Just The First Lady During Clinton Years, Not Responsible For Bill's Fuck-Ups"... everyone knows what a fucking fake she is.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:43 PM
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37. Animal cruelty now? Really frigging nice.
What next... "you cant tell how loud a dog will bark to you kick him" :shrug: :nuke:

Go away Hillary.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:43 PM
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39. Okay, now that's just weird...
I read the link, even read the comments and I still don't know what the hell

""you can't tell how far a frog will jump until you punch him."

means! The closest I can come to trying to figure out, maybe, is the "kitchen sink" strategy? Punch = throw???


Very, very strange, imo.

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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:44 PM
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40. Whoo-ee! Put out the catch-barrel, momma, 'cause Junior's gone a-streakin'!
I can make up nonsensical aphorisms too. It's kind of fun!
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:45 PM
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42. LOL!!
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:44 PM
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41. She should leave sounding like Andy Griffith to her husband
It works for him because he is Southern.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:47 PM
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43. Is this an actual euphemism?
Or is there an actual euphemism which she fucked up?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:52 PM
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44. Clinton spoke in senate caucus AGAINST filibuster of Alito. She led the 'can't do'
when it came to Dems opposing Bush the last 7yrs.
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