Father Pfleger's rant is NOT funny- unless you are a McCain fan

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I'm surprised to see so many here enjoying this latest MSM distraction.

Pleger's rant has been playing ad nauseum for days on FUX- with the obvious intent to inflict damage on the Obama campaign and Democratic party unity. Since when are DUers consumers of FUX "news" propaganda? This clip is what people like Hannity and O'Reilly are masturbating to, fantasizing about the flocks of female Hillary supporters that will become further enraged and more unreachable when the time comes to heal and unify. Is there anything funny about that? A lot of Democratic women will find Pleger's mockery hurtful, and it will fuel their view of her as a VICTIM. Many of these women may be pushed permanently out of reach because of the substance of this tape. Is that funny?

Now CNN, MSNBC and network media outlets have knocked the damning revelations in McClellan's book, that Chimp dishonestly took America into war and the MSM was complicit by their unquestioning adherence to WH talking points, in favor of talking about this counter-productive BULLSHIT. Is that funny? A lot of people here don't seem to get it: yes, everything Scotty wrote about WE'VE known for years, but this is the first time the MSM is actually COVERING it seriously... McClellan actually mentioned the White House Iraq Group (WHIG) on NBC's Today Show!!! Millions of Americans are hearing this stuff for the first time. NOW the MSM can duck this discussion (harmful to McCain) because they have another fucking pastor video to play ad nauseum (harmful to Obama campaign).. . is that funny?

Obama is RIGHT to run the hell away from this ranting ass... Tweety himself said on "Morning Joe" this morning that he didn't see why this Plfeger is even a story, that the revelations in McClellan's book are a much, much bigger story with lasting consequences... leaving Mika all flustered because she was conflating Plfeger into the Next Big Story.

Lastly, in my opinion, the rant was quite mean-spirited and crass showboating on the part of this man of G-d. His entire presentation was antithetical to everything Obama is about.


on edit: a Duer pointed out that Pfleger is a "Father" and not a "Reverend". My apologies!

[stray cat]

1. Not funny but also not Obama

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2. We know that- but the MSM is only covering it becaue Pleger was part of the Obama campaign

apparently he resigned yesterday.

[Renew Deal]

3. If it came from Chris Rock...

It would have been funny and a non-issue. There's a double standard here.

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5. A pastor who is part of Obama's campaign is not supposed to be doing

Chris Rock routines- there is no double standard. It is an idiotic story, and a major distratcion.

[wndycty]

6. Unfortunately Hillary's folks would hold Obama accountable for Rock. . .

. . .I have no doubts about that.

[Renew Deal]

8. How is he part of Obama's campaign?

What's his role?

I agree about the idiotic distraction part. That's the double standard.

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14. Obama Campaign: Pfleger "stepped down from 'Catholics For Obama"

I'm looking for a print reference, not much, but here's something:


http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/05/pfleger_warned_about_pulpit_po.html

Pfleger, a passionate advocate for the down-and-out, immediately issued an apology: ''I regret the words I chose on Sunday. These words are inconsistent with Senator Obama's life and message, and I am deeply sorry if they offended Senator Clinton or anyone else who saw them.''

Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt said Pfleger stepped down from a ''Catholics for Obama'' committee a few weeks ago, but would not say why.



<snip>

Pfleger is a longtime Obama friend and was in the audience at the National Press Club for that Wright press conference, and when we talked afterward, he realized Wright created a problem for Obama.

I was told Pfleger's comments stunned some in the Obama camp because they expected him to be more politically savvy -- and not take on Clinton,especially at Trinity, of all places.


He may have been affiliated with this group: http://my.barackobama.com/page/group/RomanCatholicsforObama

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15. hmmmm

"Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt said Pfleger stepped down from a ''Catholics for Obama'' committee a few weeks ago, but would not say why."

Either the creep has changed his mind or his bishop came down hard on him. (Ummm......no pun really intended there)

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17. my thoughts are, it was not "a few weeks ago", but in response

to this.

[ProSense]

18. Those are groups who pledge support to Obama, they are mostly endorsements and testimonials.

He has no official campaign role. There are many support groups, including:

Women for Obama

Environmentalists for Obama

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9. Link? Since when is Pfleger part of Obama's campaign?

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11. It was said on Morning Joe today, in a conversation

between Mika, Tweety and Mike Barnicle.

[Jersey Devil]

4. Calm down, take slow deep breaths

This is not an end of the world scenario. It will pass.

What it very amusing to me about this so called "controversy" is that every one of the media talking heads I've seen report it has to stop laughing before addressing the "outrage".

[ProSense]

7. Not Obama, and people can decide for themselves what's funny.

Has Hillary apologized for any of these?

The outrage is manufactured in relation to the campaign.

It's like all the reject and denounce around Farrakhan from Hillary's camp, but not a peep about Ed Rendell's praise of him.

Defend Hillary's assassination comment, but get all outraged at someone mocking Hillary's tears.

Timeline:

Rev. Pfleger makes comment

Obama denounces comment

Rev. Pfleger apologizes

Hillary campaign isn't interested in apologies or denouncements

Hillary's campaign still outraged, still carrying on, still being hypocrites



The fact that Obama denounced the comment doesn't mean he is responsible for everything everyone says. His denouncement was a courtesy.

This is a man who has nothing to do with Obama's campaign and isn't his pastor.

Ferraro is friends with Hillary, was on her campaign finance committee, should Hillary be forced to repudiate all the ridiculous comments Ferraro is making?

The outrage and focus on what Rev. Pfleger is BS.

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10. listen, humor is subjective, of course

but the amusement over here at FUX news propaganda that is only counterproductive and harmful to Obama and Dems is disspiriting to me.

I am not a big fan of tit-for-tat. Obama has run a dignified, mature campagin that hasn't engaged in that crap, so I really don't give a flying fuck what Hillary did or didn't apologize for. Totally irrelevant, to me. The only thing that matters now is WINNING, and laughing at Pleger does not inspire warm and fuzzy feelings in Hillary's Democratic supporters. It's t ime to come together and not take delight in mockery.

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13. What does someone finding the comments funny have to do with Obama?

Didn't he already denounce the remarks?

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16. OK, not getting anywhere here.

You are entitled to look at the clip and laugh, if that's what floats your boat. I look at it and see GOP/MSM collaberation to blow McClellan out of the news, revive the Rev. Wright story, and antagonize the millions of Hillary supporters whose votes we are going to need in order to win. So, in my view, NOT funny. Also, this is personal and subjective, but I find the mockery rather mean-spirited. Yes, she has run a lowdown and dirty campaign, but we (Team Obama) are better than that. Or one would hope. Yes, we can.

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19. So it wasn't funny to you, does that mean it should be blown out of proportion?

Linked to Obama because the assholes at Fox are going to do it?

Obama has already denounced the comment. What are you asking: that other people declare it not funny?

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12. And David Axelrod, the Obama campaign strategist, called Pfleger's comments

"offensive and outrageous"

[Bucky]

20. Priests in the Catholic church are addressed as "the Reverend"

I went to a Catholic college. The proper honorific for a Catholic priest is "the Reverend" followed by his name. It's an appropriate usage. However in Protestant churches the "the" is often dropped and "Reverend" becomes the job title as well as the honorific.

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21. thanks for clarifying.

:)