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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 11:53 AM
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Pfleger previously warned about pulpit politics
Edited on Fri May-30-08 11:57 AM by sfam
Just a follow-up to my thread about whether pastors should be supporting or opposing people engaged in a campaign for political office, it turns out that Pfleger was previously warned about not speaking politics from the pulpit.


Pfleger warned about pulpit politics. Pfleger stepped down from "Catholics for Obama."

WASHINGTON -- The Rev. Michael Pfleger mocked Sen. Hillary Clinton from the pulpit of Trinity United Church of Christ -- earning him a reprimand Thursday from Sen. Barack Obama as his comments threaten to resurrect the politically radioactive Rev. Jeremiah Wright as a campaign issue.

Pfleger, the outspoken activist pastor of St. Sabina in Auburn-Gresham, spoke at Trinity last Sunday night, and his videotaped comments about Clinton started to ricochet around the Internet. Introduced by Wright's successor, the Rev. Otis Moss III, Pfleger starts talking of the need to expose ''white entitlement and supremacy wherever it raises its head" in the the clip on YouTube.

Pfleger continues, referring to Clinton's tearing up just before the New Hampshire primary -- which may have helped her win.

''Rev. Moss, when Hillary was crying, and people said that was put on, I really don't believe it was put on,'' Pfleger says from the pulpit. ''I really believe that she just always thought, 'This is mine! I'm Bill's wife, I'm white, and this is mine! I just gotta get up and step into the plate.' And then out of nowhere came, 'Hey, I'm Barack Obama,' and she said, 'Oh, damn! Where did you come from? I'm white! I'm entitled! There's a black man stealing my show!' ''

Pfleger then pretended to wipe tears from his eyes. "She wasn't the only one crying, there was a whole lot of white people crying.''

As he wrapped up, Pfleger must have sensed he went too far. ''Sorry . . . don't want to get you into any more trouble,'' he said, a reference to the controversial Wright, whom Obama cut ties with April 30, following what he called Wright's ''rants'' during a press conference at the National Press Club here. Moss, back on the pulpit, said, "We thank God for the message and we thank God for the messenger."

Republicans have already started hitting Obama over Wright, and by Thursday had seized on Pfleger's comments.

Obama, in a statement, said, ''As I have traveled this country, I've been impressed not by what divides us, but by all that unites us. That is why I am deeply disappointed in Father Pfleger's divisive, backward-looking rhetoric, which doesn't reflect the country I see or the desire of people across America to come together in common cause.''

Pfleger, a passionate advocate for the down-and-out, immediately issued an apology: ''I regret the words I chose on Sunday. These words are inconsistent with Senator Obama's life and message, and I am deeply sorry if they offended Senator Clinton or anyone else who saw them.''

Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt said Pfleger stepped down from a ''Catholics for Obama'' committee a few weeks ago, but would not say why.

The Clinton campaign at first had no comment, then Thursday evening said Obama did not go far enough in distancing himself from Pfleger. "Divisive and hateful language like that is totally counterproductive in our efforts to bring our party together and have no place at the pulpit or in our politics," said a statement issued by Clinton spokesman Phil Singer. "We are disappointed that Senator Obama didn't specifically reject Father Pfleger's despicable comments about Senator Clinton, and assume he will do so."

Chicago Sun-Times religion reporter Mike Thomas asked Cardinal Francis George's office for a reaction, and his spokeswoman, Colleen Dolan said, ''The cardinal has made it clear to Father Pfleger in the past on more than one occasion that it's inappropriate to speak about political issues from the pulpit and that his own personal opinions are his own personal opinions.''

The campaign of presumptive GOP nominee Sen. John McCain declined comment.

Pfleger is a longtime Obama friend and was in the audience at the National Press Club for that Wright press conference, and when we talked afterward, he realized Wright created a problem for Obama.

I was told Pfleger's comments stunned some in the Obama camp because they expected him to be more politically savvy -- and not take on Clinton,especially at Trinity, of all places.


http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/05/pfleger_warned_about_pulpit_po.html#more


I would have updated my original thread, but the time has expired. But for those who say his comments did not constitute political participation, apparently others, including those from the Catholic church and most likely the Obama campaign have already talked to him about this.

EDIT: The good part about this from the Obama campaign's standpoint is they can say they've already distanced themselves from this guy, PRIOR to his latest eruption. This means it will be very difficult to give this story legs.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 11:59 AM
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1. I just watched the video on youtube.
It is pretty disgusting. Does this guy want Obama to fail? Obama seems to be associated with some pretty unscrupulous characters and the GOP is going to have a field day with this in the fall. They are probably creating the campaign ads for McCain right now using this stuff. It really looks terrible. Between Rev. Wright and this guy, I think we are in big trouble.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:10 PM
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2. It really is amazing that this guy is for Obama...like seriously...
What in the hell was he thinking?

Here's a thought for all future crazy pastors for Obama - pick a different venue for your Hillary hate speech. Preferably one where there is no camera running.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:12 PM
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4. Thank you for your concern. n/t
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:13 PM
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5. Obama is "associated with some pretty unscrupulous characters"? Where do you get that bullshit?
Please take your bogus 'concern' and get a grip.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:37 PM
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7. I forgot that we are not supposed to say anything bad about
Obama here on DU. I would like to win in November and I don't give a shit if you think my concern is bogus or not. Wright and Pfleger are going to be a problem even if everyone here on DU thinks it is not. Mark my words. This will be used against him and his only defense is to change churches and denounce these religious figures who are sabotaging his campaign. I am more of a realist about this election season. Obama does not have it in the bag, so to speak. Some people need to take off the rose colored glasses and be prepared to fight for our nominee or it will be President McCain in the White House.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:13 PM
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6. I love the fact that we can no longer tell the truth in our campaigns
Because God forbid we scare white people in Des Moines.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 01:51 PM
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9. White people in Des Moines get to vote.
Or had you forgotten that?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:11 PM
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3. who the fuck cares? this distraction is idiotic as are DU'er who insist on dragging this shit here
and dry-humping it incessantly.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 01:32 PM
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8. It shows that these ministers are not very smart.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 01:52 PM
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10. I'd still like to know what text he was preaching.
What passage in scripture can be interpreted as meaning women should not cry in public?
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