The difference between bush supporters and Kerry supporters, explained:

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

bush supporters? They look at how the last four years have been for THEM and them ONLY.

Kerry supporters? They don't just care how things have been for THEM, but how things have been for everyone around them and for the world.

Case in point: the tax breaks. A "Bush campaign tax expert" was just on NBC Nightly News saying that people will vote for bush because they care about the fact that they got a tax break. I sat there and thought, "Oh yeah who gives a SHIT about anyone else, RIGHT?" Typical.

Then a guy at a bush rally actually said this: "I think the top 1% NEEDS a tax break, I mean they pay a LOT in taxes!"

How far around the bend do you have to be to rationalize voting for someone based on sympathy for the wealthiest people in the land?

I need to go vomit now. This is why I don't watch TV.

[Gyre]

1. Totally with ya

There are lots of reasons to be concerned about the effects of the election. Trickle-down is the failed experiment of R. Reagan. This is exactly the same concept in the form of favorable tax treatment for the wealthy. But really, getting pissed about disproportionate effective tax rates is not much different than getting pissed about an illegal, lied about, "war" because of the effect on the people really involved (ie, not you or me). I like to say that the difference is that us dems give a damn about the quality of people's lives and believe the government can help them rather than bleed them. Repubs think the middle class is a commodity to be exploited.

If they steal the election we'll see how much fucking with this "commodity" will take.

Gyre

[Jackpine Radical]

3. Trickle-down did not fail, so quit saying that!

Actually, it was a huge success as a means of transporting wealth upwards while building such huge deficits that any possibility of governmental social programming (universal health care, REAL welfare reform, true universal education) was totally out of the picture for a generation.

[Nevernose]

7. AKA the "Let Them Eat Cake" economic policy

[Eagle_Eye]

15. Trickle-down theory

In my electronics class they taught the flow of electricity as electron flow and hole flow. In this case the money is electrons flowing up and the holes flow down here where I am. I must be rich. So rich I have holes in my shoes.

[bluedog]

2. my thoughts

Kerry supporters see a train wreck coming and unite together to stop it.

bush supporters see a train wreck coming and wait at the cliff with toes tags and body bags.....

[Jackpine Radical]

4. Bushies divert the train off the cliff

so they can loot the bodies of the victims.

[sandnsea]

19. My thoughts exactly

I don't think they'd even bother with the toe tags and body bags. Why waste money on the dead?

[kat21]

17. Of course Bush was the one to cause the train wreck in the first place

[Qutzupalotl]

5. Thank you, Moonbeam.

That's an eloquent description of the difference between the parties today. Kind of sad, isn't it?

[ComerPerro]

6. Its even worse than that

Bush supporters look at how people like OReiley and Hannity tell them that Bush's policies have been affecting their lives.

You are right that they don't give a shit about anyone else. That was spot on.

But, many Bush supporters, and supporters of the GOP in general, repeatedly vote against their own best interest simply because they are too stupid to understand what is going on and how Republican tactics screw them over. They rely on Rush to tell them what is happening.

And, even worse, they have the audacity to be arrogant about supporting Bush at their own peril!

[Warpy]

8. Start watching CBS and PBS

They have a lot of crap and lie by omission, but every once in a while a real story sneaks through. Tonight on CBS there was a contrast between Bush and Kerry rallies: the former handpicked and regimented, the latter open to everyone and spontaneous. On PBS there was a story about how the Bush tax cuts did NOTHING to help the economy.

NBC and ABC are both corporate news at its worst. POX News isn't news.

[Cleita]

9. Yes, this was President Ronnie's platform.

Help the rich to get richer because then the money is going to "trickle down" to the lazy poor and welfare queens. People seem to fall for these unfortunate lapses in logic. Beats me.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

10. And to add:

I have spoken with two different women who told me they are voting for bush because "things have been fine for them." When I brought up all the other people in this country and the world (because let's face it, we affect a lot of the world), they said, "Well everyone needs to just worry about themselves."

This coming from the people who want to legislate morality, eh?

So I get it, I said, everyone is on their own financially, too bad, but republicans want to tell everyone how to live their lives, right?

Gotcha.

[Lindacooks]

11. The biggest scam in the history of the world...

rich people have convinced not-rich people to feel sorry for them.

[cosmicvortex20]

16. My deal is they leave me alone and I leave them alone...

I could care less what others have - Im not built on greed or envy.

[michigandem2]

12. Its always bothered me...

that this "big government thing" have been an issue...

the tax cuts for the wealthy..were to enrich our economy but we all know what rich people do when they get to keep more money..they are greedy--why on earth would I pay more of a percentage than someone who makes a ton more than we do...I am in that middle class bracket that has the biggest part of the burden but even still, its not right...for the MIDDLE class to get choked...the middle class keep the economy going..am I wrong? I am no economist...

Also...I think the right side..is really not as inclusive as the left...we accept anyone and everyone...ya know? it seems like the rich, suburbanites, who faithfully go to church and believe that God saves all--if you don't think that way..you aren't really accepted into their world...also you have to follow the leader of the country, no matter HOW much you disagree..they will never admit that man made a mistake on this war or on anything else..they blindly follow...

there is my rant for the evening! LOL!

[Jokinomx]

13. You couldn't have put it much better....

repugs in general..only think about themselves...

My neo-con Sister in Law, tried to explain to me about how they (my Brother and herself) had to move to a new part of the country and take a twenty thousand dollar ayear paycut because my Brother couldn't find a job near the area they called home. This advice was given to me because I have been having a hard time finding adequate work since my last lay-off in February of this year. Since moving back to Greenville, Mi in 1997 (my wife's hometown), I have had 4 different manufacturing jobs, in which 3 have shut their doors on me. My Brother... makes over 6 figures a year.... my HIGHEST pay year since "97" wasn't much more than what he took as a pay cut. My wife HAS to work... my sister in law has never had to take on an outside job..... not to say being a Mother isn't work... but they have lived VERY comfortable most of their married life. We chose to leave our jobs in Salt Lake City... to be closer to our Families. Somethings you can't put a price tag on...and Family is one of them. We made the correct choice, but it hasn't been easy.

However... My Brother and Sister in Law are very happy with the way things have gone for them under chimp. I figure with the tax cut for those over 150,000 a year... he probably got most of his paycut back and that is why they love chimp so much.

:dem:

[Hamlette]

14. republicans feel entitled

to everything, and put upon that they don't get more. It's someone else's fault (blacks, women, liberals) that they are not rich.

Dems feel grateful for what they have and what others to have at least as much. They knew they worked hard to get what they got but recognize they had lots of help and that some people don't get that kind of help.

[jmags]

18. From what I can tell, Bush/Cheney supporters base

their vote on three things.

One - They believe attacking Iraq was fighting the terrorists on their ground. They also seem to think our country would roll over and let Al Queda do whatever they want to us if Kerry were Prez.

Two - Abortion

Three - Gay Marriage.

[Piperay]

20. I saw that too

I was :wow: when the guy said that, I guess he thinks that one day he is going to be one of those rich people, bwahahahahaha. Dream on buddy it ain't going to happen with bushco in, they will work you till you drop in your tracks and pay you as little as they can while they are doing it. :freak: