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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:59 PM
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Many experts saying it is now all but over for Hillary...
As others have said already, it could very well be over by this time on Wednesday...
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/31/hillary-gets-ruled-and-by_n_104496.html

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The Democratic Rules and Bylaws Committee decision on Saturday to seat the Florida and Michigan delegations to the Democratic conventions with their voting strength cut in half is a major boost for Barack Obama, and a clear signal that the long and bitter fight for the nomination is on the verge of ending.

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"The Clinton campaign lost their biggest rationale for staying in the race," said California-based Democratic consultant Bill Carrick. "Any potential for Senator Clinton to pick up a large block of delegates is gone and the superdelegates will likely move to Senator Obama and end the race."

Jim Jordan, who managed John Kerry's 2004 presidential bid during its preliminary stages, was more explicit. "Even the Clinton folks acknowledged that this was their last gasp. So that's it. Time to turn to what matters, winning in November. And it's time for Senator Clinton herself to start salving the party's wounds."

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Robert Bauer, counsel to the Obama campaign, noted that the committee decision "does remove one obstacle. It is not clear she will see it that way."

Jonathan M. Prince, deputy manager of John Edwards' failed presidential bid, said "everything that's going on now is (and should be) about dignified closure....there's no good guy and no bad guy and it's in everyone's interest for both candidates to leave the field with their heads held high - one having run a historic race and winning, ready to unite the party and move on to the real fight, the other having run a historic race and almost winning."

Similarly, Robert Borosage, president of the Institute for America's Future and co-director of the Campaign for America's Future, said "This is all but over." He predicted a scenario of, "the Clintons accept the inevitable. The convention is unified. Hillary Clinton works harder than any other surrogate to elect the ticket."

"There is a new sheriff in town, Nancy Pelosi," said Democratic media specialist James Duffy. "In my mind she is driving the bus, and she will drive it right over the Clintons and if they miss the fact they got run over, she will back up and run over them again."

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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:01 AM
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1. ...Another one bites the dust... yeah, yeah ... another one bites the dust...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:05 AM
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2. And Nancy will do exactly that. She's been waiting for this convention
longer than anyone and it will go well.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:16 AM
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4. It's just too bad she couldn't walk and chew gum. Nudge nudge. nt
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:05 AM
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3. no more "all but over" - we can haz "over" plez? nt
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:32 AM
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6. If noes over by Wenezday, Iz gonna thro up inna bukkit.
Edited on Sun Jun-01-08 12:38 AM by beac
No kitteh-ing!










(editz 4 proper LOLcat spelingz)
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:18 AM
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5. The same Nancy Pelosi
who spent the last year and a half betraying the Dems who gave the party a majority in Congress by kissing Bush's behind and working overtime to give him and the GOP everything they wanted?
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:37 AM
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8. did she slam a good dem (kerry), deliberately misinterpreting his remarks?
did she vote to authorize war in the first place? nope
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:42 AM
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11. She's refused to investigate Bush/Cheney war crimes
and has stymied any action in Congress to get our troops out of Iraq.

She's a Bush supporter without peer (well perhaps excepting Reid, Hoyer, Lieberman and Emmanuel to name a few).
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:50 AM
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15. she was weak i agree
but at least she didn't vote for the war like Hillary did. And being weak doesn't make her a Bush supporter without peer.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:58 AM
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19. Pelosi has fought to keep the Iraq war going
and attacked the Dem voters who put her in office because they fell for her lies.
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:59 AM
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20. hmm, link please?
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:00 AM
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21. Google Pelosi Iraq War
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:28 AM
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22. i did and didn't find anything remotely close to what you said
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:52 AM
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16. You know, given that Bill chose to sweep all the crap of Iran Contra
"for the good of the country" I have become quite cynical of all our politicos, REGARDLESS OF PARTY

That said, maybe this time we may... not really, have investigations

But a Dem is still better for my bottom line than McCain, know what I mean?
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:53 AM
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17. Hillary voted to send our troops to Iraq in the first place
Pelosi isn't my favorite Dem, but HRC is right up there with Joe LIEberman. I expect her to join him in endorsing McCain any day now.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:38 AM
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9. Reid maybe
Pelosi has been marginally more effective.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:48 AM
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14. You sure you're not describing Hillary Clinton?
You really need to snap out of this fugue of disconnected, bitter disillusionment you seem to be in and join the parade. Seriously. Every thread you show up in, you're pissing and moaning like there's no tomorrow. The fact is, Hillary got beaten by the better candidate. Deal with that reality. She wasn't the one America wanted -- not this election, anyway. It's time to get on board the Democratic Express, or be left standing on the frickin' tracks, wringing your hands and whining as the train leaves the station.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:35 AM
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7. Somewhere a chorus is singing hallelujah
and on to the GE.... and to defeat John McCain

We cannot afford four more years of this shit
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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:40 AM
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10. Cue: "Hallelujah Chorus!"




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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:44 AM
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12. If Nancy is going to drive the bus over the Clintons, it BETTER not be the short bus
know what i mean?
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Robert Murphy Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:45 AM
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13. Let's Unite and Win
OK gang, the surest path to winning the White House is to demonize Hillary supporters. No! Wait! Let's gloat and lord it over them!! Let's call anyone who supported Hillary in the primaries a raving racist!! This is the sure way to win the White House in November!

Robert

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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:53 AM
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18. One thing she has yet to show is leadership.
I keep saying there is time, and I keep waiting. It seems to be "the Lord of the Flies" redux over there. Perhaps she will let her following continue to flail away at their ghosts until the nomination, or even the GE, and sit things out in bitter silence imagining that 2012 will be the big chance...its been sad, really. So far it seems just a random accident that she is in our party, as loyalty and principle have been absent. As well as leadership. Oh well....again, there is still time.
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