Stem Cell Science Plan--Is it a win-win?

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

According to Zogby, "President Bush could lose 20 percent of commited voters if Kerry siezes Stem Cell Science Plan, ..."

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Is this a win-win for Kerry? What would be the risks? Anyone?

[buycitgo]

1. how can it not be, unless the media takes the Rovian spin,

as yet to be determined, cause they KNOW they're SCREWED on this (that's why they rolled the human couch cover out to try to put their best face on their medieval stance) subject

they KNOW that standing in the way of the inevitable progress of science, especially in an area that benefits a LARGE segment of the population, is a LOOHOOHOOser of a place to be

too frickin bad, trogs

sit and wallow in the cessfield of your own aggressive, superstious IGnorance

Kerry better HAMMER them with this at all possible junctures

Challenge Bush on why he's against scientfic progress

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

2. Slate has an article about it too

Timothy Noah also did a piece on it this week in his Chatterbox column on Slate titled "Pleasant Surprise of the Week".
It talks about how the GOP could distance themselves for their stance against Stem Cell Research during the convention. However they've chosen to do the opposite and invite Michael Reagan, Ron Reagan's half brother to speak against it.Makes me wonder why the campaign hasn't pounced on it yet, unless they are waiting for after Michael Reagan's speech at the convention to really give it that extra oomph.

[blondeatlast]

5. The Dems must go on the attack with this.

No defensive posture; they need to have an ad out the night Mike Reagan appears.

This is a CLEAR winner and we need to attack it YESTERDAY.

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

3. Wonder why

this isn't being discussed more here.

[blondeatlast]

4. I've tried several times; apparently I frame it wrong.

I think because it's and issue that doesn't really affect people directly.

It is a definite winner for Kerry and could sway amny undecideds. How many people DON'T know someone with diabetes, cancer, heart disease, Parkinson's, or Alzheimer's?

This is one we can't possibly lose on.

[Sparky McGruff]

6. I think it's a winner

The hard-core anti-science whack-jobs are Bush's to keep, no matter what. But there are a lot of people out there who could be sold. It's important not to over-sell, though.

[Warren DeMontague]

7. While we're at it, can we please get some small smidgen of acknowledgement

that the majority of Americans are pro-choice? I know the talking point this year is to not mention the A word, but, that's the reality. And the HLA Plank in the GOP platform would not only criminalize all abortion, it would also criminalize all IVF, and it would also criminalize the birth control pill.

I would like to see us start nailing the GOP to the wall on their being in bed with far right religious extremists who are way out of the mainstream.

On the topic--- I think when we point out that we are the party that supports science and research, and they are the party of people who think dinosaur bones were "planted" 2,000 years ago to test the faithful, hell yeah it's a win-win.

[blondeatlast]

8. Of course I'm pro-choice and want to preserve my rights, but

we have to be VERY careful not to link these two issues. There really is virtually no relation to the two, and if we DO start linking them, we'll sound as dimwitted at the RW, fundie nut-jobs.

The whack jobs on the right have done that, even though the issues really have very little to do with each other. Many people are very surprised to find out that embryonic stem cells are not taken from aborted fetuses; somehow this has become a somewhat popular notion, no doubt perpetuated by the wing-nuts.

Linking the issues in any way doesn't help either issue at all, and we can't afford to go there.

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

9. I have to agree

Pro-Choice is very important this election. But the two issues need to be kept far apart. We can't let the fundies even hint at a link between the two.

[Warren DeMontague]

10. I would think the fact that pro-life senators like Orrin Hatch

support stem cell research would be more than enough ammunition to keep the two issues separate in the minds of voters.

I guess I'm the only one who thinks it's worth pointing out that defining a single cell as a human being is ludicrous --- no matter what context it's done in.

Edit: Anyway, it's not up to us to "prevent" the fundies from linking the two.. they already have. The "pro-life" argument is the philosophical core of their battle against stem cell research... The fact that they are inconsistent with regards to IVF and other fertility treatments involving embryos doesn't change the fact that their crusade, is, in essence, a pro-life, anti-abortion one. Whether or not we "link" them, they already have.

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

11. I agree

I would hope so anyway!

[buycitgo]

12. THAT's the way to ADVERTIZE it!

Play it like a pug commercial!

use PUG supporters only, ha

then, moveon.org, or whomever, can make it look like PUGS are the ones supporting it

Nancy Reagan quotes/clips

Hatch

who else on the pug side?

Lott, was it?????

how funny would that be?

[buycitgo]

13. check this out

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x623999