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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 07:38 PM Original message |
We are framing this issue wrong: pro-choice |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. You misunderestimate conservatives................ |
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kikiek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 08:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. I think you're right. Recently there was a pharmacist that refused to |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 08:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. pharmacist refusing to fill prescription |
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kikiek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 08:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Yah actually the woman it happened to was getting it for hormone |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 08:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. explains their foul attitude doesn't it? |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 08:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. And that is why their husbands fuck around on them |
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GiovanniC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 06:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
57. H. L. Mencken |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
2. I think it's all part of the same thing: Reproductive Freedom |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 07:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Reproductive Health rights, Reproductive Freedom |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 07:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Right |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 07:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. The conservatives are split |
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DaveSZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 07:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Frame it as saving women's lives |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 08:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. Santorum either. |
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zuzu98 (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
7. Good point. |
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DaveSZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 07:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Right |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 08:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. The morning after pill can't be our focus. |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 08:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Oh but see... |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 08:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. abortifacients |
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DoktorGreg (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 08:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Is that a real word? |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 08:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. The pro-lifers created it, as far as I know. n/t |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 09:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. It's a real word and has been around for many years. eom. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 09:44 PM Response to Reply #12 |
31. Abortifacients prevent implantation, in effect causing a |
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DoktorGreg (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-15-04 02:21 AM Response to Reply #31 |
41. I think Im gonna disagree a little bit... |
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July (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-15-04 10:06 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. This is a real word (Latin-based). |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-15-04 09:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. That's odd |
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DoktorGreg (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:42 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. So are you calling me a liar? |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 06:07 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. I have not called you anything of the sort |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
16. What we have got to stress..... |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 08:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. fudge stripe, I disagree. |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 08:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. I use any strategy I can. |
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kikiek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 08:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Here's hope |
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DaveSZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 08:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Hehe that's the ulterior motive really |
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DaveSZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 08:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. H. L. Menken |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 10:06 PM Response to Reply #16 |
35. Do you have even the vaguest notion of a statistic to back that up |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-15-04 09:38 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. Write to Gloria Feldt and ask her. |
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wurzel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
24. Women don't have the "right " of choice. They have the "burden" of choice |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
25. Soviet women had more reproductive rights in 1920 |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
29. the line in the sand |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 09:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. are you suggesting we let them change the law and make abortion illegal |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-15-04 09:44 AM Response to Reply #30 |
44. I don't think she's saying that at all. |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 06:11 PM Response to Reply #44 |
65. I see this as just another way of allowing them to control the discussion |
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NV Whino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
32. The word is CHOICE. |
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NV Whino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
33. And furthermore |
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zuzu98 (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 09:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. AMEN!! n/t |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
36. There is notthing wrong with the way we are framing the issue of Choice |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 11:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Cheswick - I'm not suggesting changing any positions |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 12:01 PM Response to Reply #36 |
61. Yes there is |
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footinmouth (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
37. In a perfect world ... |
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jackieforthedems (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-14-04 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
38. Look At It An Even Different Way |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-15-04 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
40. I say we harvest fetuses |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-15-04 06:11 AM Response to Original message |
42. Reframing needed: Ever since anti-choicers called themselves "pro-life"... |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-15-04 09:48 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Thanks for calling the TV station, Hekate! |
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Zen Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-15-04 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
45. The issue is : Government Control over our Bodies |
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bushwakker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-15-04 09:57 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. In particular the party (GOP) that professes to be about |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-15-04 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
49. pro-life choices |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-15-04 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
51. Wrong to whom? |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-15-04 11:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Wrong to whom? |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 02:17 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Sorry, but I respectfully disagree |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:48 AM Response to Original message |
55. The Major "Pro-Life" organizations in the USA Are uniformly |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 06:03 AM Response to Original message |
56. Let me say first that... |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 11:02 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. sharing the tent without apologies |
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kwolf68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
59. I so much would |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 11:43 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. I don't want this to be a thread debating the issue of abortion |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. I think it's totally philosophically consistent |
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Bernardo de La Paz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-04 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
63. Reproductive Rights . . . . . nt |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-04 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
66. CNN is actually covering this! |
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