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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 10:07 AM
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Is Keyes accusing Obama of not being black enough?
He says he is not african american. He does not share the pain and lgeacy of his oppressed people. He is a better black man because his ancesters suffered. Should it matter if a candidate is black enough?
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DCdem87 Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 10:14 AM
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1. Absolutely not
Alan Keyes is a pathetic excuse for a politician and has nothing else to say. Unfortunately, that is flawed too. Alan Keyes is a disgrace to African Americans for being a republican. The republicans of today were the same bigots who fought against civil rights decades ago...and they are still doing it with gay rights. To consider yourself a constituent of a party who continuously tries to restrict AMERICAN CITIZENS from having the rights they deserve while being an African American is disgraceful, and I have no doubt in my mind that once again he will be crushed in an election..this time by Barack Obama.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 10:21 AM
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6. Some day Keyes will be involved in some massive Sex Scandal
and all of us will put on our "Hypocrite Helmets" and say...."Ooooooooooooooooooo:crazy: I knew it!"
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:57 AM
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19. Heh. We should all bookmark this thread so we have it handy... nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:26 AM
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15. The republicans are still doing it will civil rights, too.
Isn't there a racist who won in Tennessee, recently?
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 10:16 AM
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2. Hell, Obama's father was FROM Africa...
...you don't get much more African-American than that.
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 10:16 AM
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3. There is something seriously wrong with Keyes
His interview was embarrassing. I felt guilty just watching it was so bad.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 10:18 AM
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4. I imagine that his point is that his ancestors didn't suffer slavery
However, as a black man in the US, he has suffered the effects of slavery - the discrimination that has come about through and because of slavery - regardless of whether his family was here in the 1800s.
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chuck555 Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 10:19 AM
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5. Well he is just that dumb.
Next it will be God talks to him.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 10:29 AM
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7. Obama's grandfather was a servant for a British man in Africa.
He has a VERY direct connection to imperialism.

His other grandfather was a farmer in Kansas who undoubtedly had a direct commection to New Dealism.

To me, this is the ideal combination -- a legacy of fighting fascism at home as well as abroad.

It is the story of politics today just as it was when Obama's grandfathers were alive.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 10:32 AM
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8. Hell, he said Obama's view on Abortion was 'Slaveholder's Position'
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 10:33 AM
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9. Keyes is a finished fool ..


He is not proud to be an African American. He is a kiss ass to his slave masters - the Republican party bosses.

He is darker in color than Obama but that is it in terms of his Blackness! Thurgood Marshall and Adam Clayton Powell,more fair in color, were heroes to our community and so that throws out the color myth for Keyes.

I want to see him walk down the streets in the African American community of Chicago. Let him even try walking on one side of the street and Obama on the other - LOL. His butt would be run over with the adoring fans of Obama stomping him on the side walk.

What an ass he is, ALL of his ideas are Anti African American values.

Get out of town Keyes!

Chicago is Obama's kind of town, not yours.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 12:00 PM
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20. Enjoy this thread; it'll make your day (it made mine)! nt
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 10:34 AM
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10. OBAMA puts it best: THIS CAMPAIGN HAS NEVER BEEN ABOUT RACE
but about qualifications.... The Republican party is making the mistake of focusing on skin color and not on issues. LOVE OBAMA!
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 10:36 AM
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11. Did he actually say that?
Such a blatant play?

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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 10:49 AM
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12. Yep. And implied that the fetuses of the unborn are like the black slaves

Obama had a real good retort for it: Keyes compares women who need to have abortions to slave owners who mistreated/killed their slaves. What Mr. Keyes fails to realize that that women need to NOT be like slaves who have no control of their bodies and their own decisions... THEY are the ones treated like slaves when there is not choice (paraphrasing here).
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:34 AM
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16. That pretty much sums it up, too.
Thank you keyes for opening up that can or worms so it can backfire on ya.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 12:07 PM
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22. Yes, but it was worse
Edited on Sun Aug-15-04 12:07 PM by party_line
He attached worthiness to heritage. If it were explored and disseminated, it would tick off anyone whose ancestors didn't arrive in the states on the Mayflower or a slave ship.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 10:57 AM
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13. Keyes is out of his mind.
nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:24 AM
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14. keyes is a racist. And will play any card he can
to get a rise out of Obama. keyes is also an idiot ..so that makes him dangerous.

I can't wait until this election is over and alan keyes can go back to whatever rock he was under.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 12:01 PM
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21. But Obama won't take the bait--he keeps focusing those nagging little
ISSUES, darn him.

:evilgrin:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 12:23 PM
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25. Good practice for when Obama is a US Senator
from Illinois!
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:40 AM
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17. I just heard Keyes "singing"
And I wouldn't have believed it was possible for a black man to be so entirely devoid of "soul".

I guess Clarence Thomas might sing worse, but hopefully we'll never be subjected to that :scared:
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 11:52 AM
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18. I'd pay real money to hear Obama use the phrase "Uncle Tom"
in reference to Keyes. Obama wouldn't do that, but I would still love it if he did!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 12:14 PM
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23. DU should take up a collection to offer Keyes
a $1000 donation if HE will say it.

Bet he'd do it, I doubt he's gotten that much from the Illinois Repug Committee.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 12:20 PM
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24. If were offered him some free publicity
then I'm sure he would say it. That has to be the only reason Keyes is doing this.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 12:28 PM
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26. That is just sick
It certainly goes a long way toward achieving a color blind society, doesn't it, when we need to draw distinctions within races as well as between them! <dripping sarcasm>
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 12:30 PM
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27. Keyes and Jesse Helms are stuck in the fifties.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 12:57 PM
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28. Keyes ended his Blitzer interview with a "joke"
that's *not* a joke?

"When I get sent to WaDC, I, unlike some people, won't have to look around for a place to live."

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