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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:17 PM
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another Bush first: politicizing the Olympics
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0408150281aug15,1,5787810.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed

Political historians and strategists from both parties said they could not recall a time when a presidential candidate had tied a campaign ad directly to the Olympics, which are intended to be a haven from national disputes or blatant politicking.

While some Democrats suggested the president was politicizing the Games, Bush campaign advisers defended the strategy and praised Iraq and Afghanistan as models of the administration's vision.

"It shows that the world is changing. It really is a remarkable change in a very short period of time," said Karl Rove, the president's top political adviser. "It's heralding the optimism and changes happening in the world."

Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe disagreed, saying: "George Bush is desperate. He politicizes anything. He will try to take advantage of anything politically."



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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:18 PM
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1. If Bush is hitching his campaign to the Olympics...
...then what conclusion are we draw from the US Men's Basketball team's performance today?

Miserable. Failure.

-MR
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:20 PM
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2. kick n/t
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:22 PM
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3. Can he sink even lower ?
(Rhetorical question)
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:24 PM
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Always. eom
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:23 PM
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4. Actually, Hitler did it
For real.

He used the 1936 Olympics (in Munich, IIRC) to promote his mythos of Aryan Supremacy. Which Jesse Owens promptly destroyed.

--bkl
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:27 PM
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8. That's what I was gonna say.
Doesn't anyone know history?
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:39 PM
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15. Ah....another similarity to another fascist....
George W. Bu$h....the ugly American...
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Snoggera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:45 PM
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17. Sorry, missed your post
and repeated the analogy. What a striking analogy it is, though. Much like a dozen other analogies that may be drawn between the two, though many still feel it is not "politically correct" to express this.

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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:52 PM
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20. Hitler. First thing that I thought of too.
Another move right out of the nazi playbook.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:24 PM
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5. When the whole point of the Olympics is to put aside politics.....
...leave it to stupid pathetic George W. Bu$h to try to change that too....

What an asshole him and Rove and the rest of their cabal are...

:grr:
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DeminDC Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:24 PM
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6. Kerry Needs to Make This a Campaign Issue
Much like Obama's red state/blue state comparison, there needs to be a Kerry ad that says "It is not your Olympic team, it is the United States of America's Olympic team." It should conclude with Kerry wishing our athletes luck in the competition.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:28 PM
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9. I'd love to see that
and the Obama reference is right on, and it looked like Kerry picked up that point from him in his own speech.

And wasn't Howard Dean the one that first made the point, saying the American flag doesn't belong to Rush Limbaugh and Jerry Falwell?

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DeminDC Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:39 PM
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14. Dem Olympic Advertisement---CALL FOR DU ACTION
Edited on Sun Aug-15-04 02:43 PM by DeminDC
I would suggest a text like this:

"(Footage of the mosaic of nations on the infield in stadium during opening ceremonies) Billions of our global neighbors are tuning in these weeks to witness an extraordinary celebration of culture, athleticism, and spirit.(Footage of lighting the torch to coincide with end of sentence) (Start of picture of Kerry looking into camera) I would like to join my fellow Americans by wishing our Olympians luck during these games and congratulations to all who join them in competition. These games, long victim to politics, do not belong to any ideology. Our Olympians do not represent any party but the United States of America."

Anyway, that is merely a draft. Please edit for verbosity and content. Then, we could send it to Dem_Strategist and the Kerry folks.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:41 PM
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16. Oooooh....I like it - send it to them!
:bounce:
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:50 PM
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19. BTW - Welcome to the DU!
:hi:

We love Newbies in our freethinking forum....:toast:

Love your counter-advertising idea....send it off to the Kerry campaign....
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Kurt Remarque Donating Member (709 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 03:16 PM
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22. yes, it was howard and it was very powerful
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:27 PM
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7. ""It's heralding the optimism and changes happening in the world.""
These people are ill.
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Snoggera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:30 PM
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10. I remember reading that Hitler
politicized the Olympics. Another page from the book.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:30 PM
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11. The press would have crucified Clinton for doing the same
Edited on Sun Aug-15-04 02:30 PM by Democat
But other than a few small articles, this will probably be ignored.

Someone on the left needs to make an organized effort to bring this to the press. Cause some sort of controversy, threaten a boycott of something, whatever it takes to make this into a news story.

This is a terrible thing for Bush to do and he will probably get away with it because of the media and our side's inability to launch effective attacks.
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wildeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:35 PM
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13. We should all
sit down tomorrow and write our LTTE's on this topic. They would probably be widely publish since they hit on two issues people are interested in right now, the presidential race and the olympics.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:45 PM
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18. my email to NBC
a little lie at the beginning. I've never been all that interested in the Olympics. :-)

Dear NBC,

I've been looking forward to the Olympics, but now that I know that George W. Bush is using them in his ads, and running those ads during the Games, I can't possibly watch them this year. As soon as I heard about the Bush ads, it ruined the Games for me.

NBC should have kept the Olympics from being politicized, by refusing to air the Bush ads. There's a precedent for this in CBS's refusing to air MoveOn.org's ads during the Super Bowl, and it's even more important for the Olympics, which has a tradition of being non-partisan.


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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 03:07 PM
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21. Clinton didn't in 1996.
Reagan did in 1984.

You can bet your bottom dollar, the Repugs will trot out any metal winner that will allow themselves to be whored out.
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wildeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:31 PM
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12. I LOVE the olympics.
It's bad enough that they try to own family values and religion, but now they are trying to steal the olympic spirit as a repuke value? Gimme a break! I am sure many of the olympic athletes will not be pleased to see a lifetime of hard work and sacrifice co-opted to the republican cause.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 03:30 PM
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23. Why are they allowing political ads during the Olympics, but not Superbowl
Does this seem right?

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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 01:13 PM
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24. the Super Bowl is hallowed ground
it's like the Najaf of TV advertising.

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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 01:19 PM
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25. PIGS

Flag, Freedom, the Bible, our Military and now this. November 2nd CAN NOT get here soon enough.
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