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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 05:46 PM
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President Bush is likely to be thrown out of office
This from Josh Marshall

"If Bush can win reelection despite the failure of his two most consequential -- and truly radical -- decisions, he will truly be a political miracle man. But as his own nominating convention approaches, the odds are against him."

One of Washington Post columnist David Broder in a column that appeared in Sunday's paper. And I reprint them because I think they mark a significant milestone simply because of Broder's role in defining conventional wisdom in Washington.

A few days ago I was talking to a friend about the coverage of the presidential campaign and how Washington's chattering classes have remained stuck in a mind-set that judges this a dead-even race -- or even one the president is bound to win -- long after the objective criteria -- to the extent there can be such a thing -- have said otherwise.

By objective criteria, I'm referring mainly to poll numbers which show Kerry consistently besting the president, though often by numbers which are in the margin of error for the given poll.

(See pollingreport.com's summary table of recent presidential polls for an example. Since August 1st, the Gallup poll has twice found President Bush beating Kerry among likely voters -- by 3 and 4 points. But every other public poll taking this month has Kerry ahead.)

The additional fact to note, of course, is that incumbent presidents tend to get what they poll in head-to-head match-ups. Thus, if past races are any indicator, if a poll says Bush 46, Kerry 47, Bush will probably end up getting about 46% of the vote while Kerry will pick up most of the rest of the uncommitteds.

Other measures of independents all show danger signs for the president. And some further indication can be found down-ballot -- especially on the senate side. But my point here isn't to get into the nitty-gritty of the polling numbers. These are pretty conventional ways to interpret polling data. My point is only to argue -- as Charlie Cook has been arguing in his recent columns -- that if you go by conventional ways of reading the numbers, both nationwide and in key swing states, President Bush is on the way to losing this race.

That sense of the race has hardly settled in among pundits or daily newspaper reporters, or if it has, it hasn't shown through in their copy. And yet here you have David Broder writing a column which, though it says many things, says mainly that President Bush is likely to be thrown out of office -- not because John Kerry is lighting the hustings on fire, but simply because President Bush's fundamental policy decisions have failed and voters are going to hold him accountable.

That perception, that conventional wisdom, once it takes hold, can have a poisonous effect on the efforts of the perceived loser. And when that perception begins to take hold among Republicans, if it does, it will set off a vicious internal dynamic within the party.

And so this, I think, will be the key issue over the next three weeks, as we build up to and then come out of the Republican convention: when does the CW defined by Broder -- the veritable pontiff of beltway CW -- start registering? If the polls change it may never, of course. But if not, when does the president start moving ahead in the polls? Can the GOP convention fundamentally shift the dynamic of the race? And, if not, when do the first signs of panic begin to appear within the president's ranks?

The GOP convention now seems like it'll be a much more high-stakes affair than the DNC.

-- Josh Marshall

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 05:52 PM
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1. Here's a direct link
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_08_15.php#003277

(Just in case Josh post lots tonight)

I read that piece first thing this morning - made a good start to my morning.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 05:59 PM
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2. Posted the Broder column here on Sunday --
Bush's Two Albatrosses

By David S. Broder
Sunday, August 15, 2004; Page B07

The factors that make President Bush a vulnerable incumbent have almost nothing to do with his opponent, John F. Kerry. They stem directly from two closely linked, high-stakes policy gambles that Bush chose on his own. Neither has worked out as he hoped.

The first gamble was the decision to attack Iraq; the second, to avoid paying for the war. The rationale for the first decision was to remove the threat of a hostile dictator armed with weapons of mass destruction. The weapons were never found. The rationale for the second decision -- the determination to keep cutting taxes in the face of far higher spending for Iraq and the war on terrorism -- was to stimulate the American economy and end the drought of jobs. The deficits have accumulated, but the jobs have still not come back.

If Bush can win reelection despite the failure of his two most consequential -- and truly radical -- decisions, he will truly be a political miracle man. But as his own nominating convention approaches, the odds are against him.

Why call these decisions radical? From World War I right through the Persian Gulf War, the United States had never initiated hostilities or invaded a major country without the provocation of an attack from that country on this nation or its allies. Bush changed that by announcing a new doctrine of "preemptive war" and applying it first to Iraq....Linked to the decision to go to war was the decision not to do what every other wartime American president has done -- raise taxes to pay for the cost of hostilities. Instead, in the face of growing annual deficits, Bush continued to press a compliant Republican Congress for more and bigger tax cuts....

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Time is short for changing people's minds. Bush is dragging two huge weights -- and he has no one to blame but himself.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64017-2004Aug13.html
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 06:00 PM
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3. How did you add the Kerry shots to your sig line?
Edited on Mon Aug-16-04 06:00 PM by stopbush
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 06:30 PM
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4. I eagerly await the Republican convention.
It ought to be good for a few chuckles as the finger pointing and blame starts to happen in ernest. It will pit the moderates vs. fiscal conservatives vs. neo-cons vs. Christian fundies vs. the criminal war profiteers....too bad there won't be a platform to debate...
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 06:37 PM
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5. If Bush actually manages to get elected this time ...
... the asswads in this country who elect him deserve what he does to it and to them.
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