We are beginning to be like Freepers here.

[Raven]

There are enough facts at issue in this election that we can probably afford to drop subjects like Laura's dead boyfriend and how she killed him. She's not running and neither is THK. I think it is having it both ways to wail about how Teresa is being treated and yet post alot of pretty nasty comments about what was most certainly a tragic event in Laura Bush's life. I don't like Laura Bush but she is a side show. We should all stick to the main tent and avoid the sideshows. Just my opinion. :-)

[CarinKaryn]

Sorry but she supports the shrub

and campaigns for him so everything she does (and everyone she has killed) is relevant. We're not letting up on her.

[Trajan]

1. We should ....

er ...... never mind ...

It's a free country ....

[NC_Nurse]

2. I agree.

I'm uncomfortable holding a tragic event from someone's teen years up as a measure of their character. Teens make mistakes and I wouldn't want people to judge my teens by their mistakes for the rest of their lives.

This was not a choice, but an accident. Leave it alone.

[buycitgo]

3. glad you mentioned that

as much pleasure (guilty, at times) as I take in going after the most superficial traits of that monstrously deformed family tree, I've never had much stomach for going after her brush with autocide.

that just goes too far, and only gives ammo to the freepcreeps, not to mention undecideds who come here

that said

[Cheswick2.0]

29. so you are saying that killing your ex by hitting him with a car is okay?

LOL, sorry couldn't resist.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

4. Well the FReeps have been doing this for years and it's about...

time we exposed the FACT that Laura murdered her boyfriend.

It tells us alot about her character.

[miss_kitty]

35. i think it says a lot more about her character that she...

claims to be librarian who currently is married to and supports as president a self-admitted, almost proud, non-reader .

[WilliamPitt]

5. Oh yeah? Well, that means you're a FREEPER!!!!!111

:) Hi mom! :)

[Raven]

17. Hi sweetie! Well,

now you've gone and done it...you've blown my cover!

[hippiegranny]

24. i already knew

been here awhile... :)

[unfrigginreal]

6. That's fine with me as long as you don't ask our female posters...

to stop critiquing Ms. Laura's attire. Those threads are a hoot. :)

[miss_kitty]

9. yes

open season on clothing...like where was it made? how much were they paid to make it? do they get pee breaks? and who would wear that stuff anyway???!!!

[mermaid]

14. Attire, Hell...She Needs MAKEUP Tips!!

Earth tones, Missus Bush...earth tones!!

Jeez, every time I see you I wonder what number file or spatula or chisel you use to take off your makeup at night!!

Lord sakes...there ARE lipstick colors out there other than bright RED...and they would probably look a lot better on you, too!! Subtle is good....

Try some foundation that is NOT Clown White...and some lipstick in maybe a pale pink, or maybe even a bit lighter...hell, even the foundation fix would be a big help....you just got TOO MUCH CoNtRaSt going on there, makes ya look like a friggin' drag queen, hun!!

I mean, sheesh, I thought Janet Reno made makeup look bad, but that was before I saw YOU...Laura!! Get some professional makeup help, hun...seriously...I mean, you could use it...just go to one of those malls and have a professional give you one of those 1 hour makeovers, where they give you your best colors and stuff, because what you're using now ain't workin....

[Bronco69]

15. Hey now, I'm not a female poster,

and I have taken more than my share of digs at Pickle's attire, and I will continue to do so. Especially that brown plaid pants suit she often wears. Somewhere a couch is sitting there naked! :-)

[Cleita]

21. Actually, my neighbor's horse has a blankey just like it.

[Carni]

40. Is that where my Grand mau mau's drapes went ta?

Holy God...a brown plaid pant suit? (I missed that)

Please tell me it was at least wool and not a polyester/rayon blend.

[childslibrarian]

7. I Also agree

The event most likely did determine the course of her life but she is not president--however, equally, Teresa Kerry should be off limits and she isn't....

[miss_kitty]

8. i agree...

...1,000 %. correct the misstatements about the record, leave spouses and children alone. not only was it "most certainly a tragic event in Laura Bush's life" as you say, raven, i'm thinking maybe the dead guy's family might not want it smashed in their faces anymore than it already is...

[Raven]

16. Welcome to DU!

Keep posting...of course it helps that you agree with me! :-)

[miss_kitty]

26. finally!

some said welcome to me! thank you, raven!

[Raven]

27. Don't mind the rest of them,

they are kind of preoccupied!

[miss_kitty]

34. well i wouldn'tve expected s***, but ...

...i noticed other n00bs being welcomed within one or two posts...i should've commented on one of your threads first!

[Raven]

39. Some days are better than others here...

this seems to be a particularly tense day. You ought to go and hang around in the Lounge...I've made many good friends there and it's the place I go when I have been chased out of here. Go there, introduce yourself and you will be welcomed (I'm serious, post a thread saying "Hi, I'm new here..." you'll see!) :hi:

[faithnotgreed]

41. welcome mamzelle. (a little nod too to the bette davis movie thats from)

little henri or something from that movie with her and charles boyer

i better go look that up...

[TransitJohn]

10. You're right, of course.

Discussing these sorts of things just cheapens our real arguments, on which we have the moral high ground.

[ScreamingMeemie]

11. The only thing that sticks in my craw about Laura (gosh I hate it

sometimes that we share a name) is that she showed no remorse when questioned the first time around. I agree that spouses and children should be generally left out of political barbing, but saying,"I'm over it and you should be too" is a little harsh.

Something more akin to,"Not a day goes by that I don't think about it...etc" would have made her look better in my book. Plus, in her "speaking" about stem cell research, she is opening a door.

:hi:

[Cheswick2.0]

12. should should should

My bet it people will do pretty much as they choose.

[Warren DeMontague]

13. I Think It's Valid to point out that

she's painted herself as an "expert" on stem cell research because she, um, did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. On that, she's dove into the political arena, so she's invited the criticism and scrutiny. Personally, I've only obliquely referred to the fact that maybe she shouldn't be the shrub's designated driver. Other than that, I guarantee you that if the shoe was on the other foot, team freep would be waving 20 foot wide blood-red banners every time Kerry spoke, calling his wife a "murderer". We've got a long way to go before we reach the level of their muck.

[Democat]

18. We wouldn't want to attack like those who control all branches of gov't!

We don't want to be like them, but it would be nice if our side sacrificed a little "niceness" for a victory.

[Raven]

19. I absolutely agree but

I think most people are turned off by the attacks on Laura Bush...except the clothes and makeup, that is!

[Snoggera]

20. She's a campaign figure out on the trail speaking to crowds

albeit, small crowds, regarding the need to continue denying scientists access to stem cell research. As a public figure currently actively campaigning for her husband, her public record should be known/publicized.

She did kill her ex-boyfriend under what has to be questionable circumstances.

Why should that be off limits?

It's not the same as discussing "how Teresa is being treated."

Freepers attack on superficial grounds.

These (Pickles posts) are posts that convey information that may lead one to make assumptions/conclusions about the individual's character. Or lack of it.

edit: when did they invent the ' key?

[Raven]

23. I see no nexus whatsoever between

Laura Bush's position on stem cell research and her accidentally killing her boyfriend...none whatsoever. If we are going to criticize her on the stem cell issue, we ought to point out the fact that she's a librarian, not a scientist. It make no sense (and no good argument) to bring up an accident she had when she was in in High School.

[Snoggera]

28. I see a correlation

A person incapable of either containing her rage, or having an "accident" that kills someone points to her character and ability to think logically. Stem cell arguments require one to have some semblance of the ability to think logically. I do not see that in her arguments today any more than I see compassion in her responses regarding a high school "accident" or homicide.

It's an extension, and a long one at that, but there it is.

[ScreamingMeemie]

30. Bingo Snog. I agree.

:thumbsup:

[Raven]

32. It's not an extension...

it's a big stretch! But you have a right to question her compassion, given what I've heard was her reaction to being asked about the accident, and you are right to think that a little compassion is required when talking about stem cell research. Still, I think we should lay off her and cencentrate on the guy she married.

[tridim]

22. This is a hugh issue

Laura didn't kill her boyfriend it's a LIEberal lie. Oh yea, I heard hitlery is still gonna run for US president of the Unitedstates and she's a big LIEberal too. Bill ClinTOON will stop at nothing until his GAY wife is persident. Buhahaha!!!!

:D :scared:

[Raven]

25. Very constructive addition to this discussion.

I assume you're suggesting that I'm RW or a freeper. Nope. Just expressing an opinion here, that's all.

[tridim]

31. Nope, I was just having fun

trying to act like a Freeper. :)

[Raven]

33. Sorry! My body armour

got in the way of my brain and my sense of humor. :-)

[Carni]

36. Hey tell THAT to Ted Kennedy

If his debacle at (that damned Lake, or river, that I cannot spell) is relevant, almost 40 years later...then so is Laura's accident.

[someother]

37. Couldn't agree more

If you want to get some perspective look at the recent thread on FR about Daniel Pearl.
Ugly attacks are ugly from both sides.
We should not descend to their level.

[LynnTheDem]

38. ACCCCCCCCK!!!

To be like any Freeper is just...EWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!

[IndianaGreen]

42. Yo, Raven!

Long time no see!

I don't like Freepers either, and don't care to see their behaviour emulated by self-described liberals.

:loveya: