D.C. to Local Wingnut: "Shrub has peaked, it's JK's to lose"

[UTUSN]

My local radio talkshow wingnut, who really does have deep roots in the Repuke Party, spent the last week in D.C. and he breathlessly relates his inside information. I keep DU a secret from him because I don't want him to have this intell, but he could have just vacationed without "inside" info and picked up the same info around here going back a couple of weeks or more.

Otoh, it could be the more of the "lowered expectations" game, getting everybody to misunderestimate Shrub again.

(He takes a lot of bashing from me. Calls himself "your right wing whipping boy.")

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To: Angry Democrat
From: Country Club Repuke

Just back frpom D.C. My two in-the-know friends say Bush has peaked and it's Kerry's to lose.

-----Original Message-----
From: Angry Democrat
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 10:42 AM
To: Country Club Repuke
Subject: Unlistenable


Turned on your station for background noise while doing my Dem discussion boarding----and (2nd stringer/RABID wingnut) was on! CLICK!!!!

It's a correct observation that SOME yakkers CAN be listened-to, even if from an alien ideology, while OTHERS canNOT be listened to.

Listenable: LIMBOsevic, O'REILLY, and far down the prominence chain, you.

UNlistenable: HANNITY, Oliver NORTH, Gordon LIDDY, and (2nd stringer/RABID wingnut). Faux & Friends on the weekdays. The weekend version is slightly better.

Don't take it as a compliment.

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[Julien Sorel]

1. Don't buy the spin.

They are lowering expectations. How can Bush have peaked? Except during the war, his approval ratings have been mediocre at their best. He's bound to get some kind of bounce from the convention as well: unless he completely falls flat on his face, at least some of the media are going to talk about his convention speech as if it were a masterpiece, Churchill meets Cicero meets MLK, simply because he didn't drool.

[Tarheelhombre]

2. Are you talking about Michael Graham?

[UTUSN]

3. Unfortunately, I Agree n/t

[Cha]

4. Right, if they're saying it ..it must be a lie..

But otoh..how the fudge do they know, maybe he has peaked. We'll see in November or even Sept or Oct weather chimp boy has another "peak" before he goes down.

[Julien Sorel]

5. And that's the attitude that counts.

If he has peaked, it would be a pretty pathetic peak at that. In the meantime we have an election to win, and whether or not he's peaked will be decided, in part, by what we do between now and voting day.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

7. Bush needs a 10-15% bounce to maintain the pretense of viability.

Bush is already down 3-5 pts, a lot farther down in the electoral vote matchup, and the trends are against him. Without a minimum of a 10% bounce I don't see how he's gonna get back in the game.

[Julien Sorel]

8. The Republicans are going to have a fabulous

convention, in which they lay out a compelling vision of our nation's future. President Bush, that's "sunny, upbeat" President Bush to you, is going to go out there on the last night of the convention, with all the pressure in the world on him and, "clutch performer" that he is, "knock his speech out of the park." Then, the man "all the experts counted out" will go out and fight a "courageous, underdog campaign," and "take the fight to John Kerry and the Democrats."

That's the storyline some of them are aiming at.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

9. Keep preaching it.

Which will the American public believe, the Republican 'storyline' or their lyin' eyes?

[RobertSeattle]

6. Counterspin: If Bush doesn't get a 10 point bounce from RNC...

Hey what's good for the Goose...

[UTUSN]

10. The Wingnut's Reply to Us Not Falling for It

I responded to his first comment, The consensus at the discussion board is that this is disinformation aiming to lull us into misunderestimating Shrub yet again. Actually, the cable yakkers have been spouting that line for a couple of weeks. We canNOT be (over-)confident. We won't rest until it's official.


He replied:

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These guys see conspiracies everywhere. The thinking is this, that Bush has all the white males and to to get more voters he has to get minorities and women and with the kind of campaign he's running (whatever that means) he's gonna have a hard time getting women. The black leadership has taken hatred for the man to a level I've never seen and segments of popular culture hate him , too, and these representatives of the poor and the benighted have raised millions from Democratic moneymen (who will prosper by being first at the trough under President Kerry). Bush, in all seriousness, whatever his virtues are, has made some serious mistakes and angered alot of people. A critical mass of people? He can still win and goodness knows the democratic Party has a history of losing. Anyway, just passing along intel from two moderate/right Republicans in The Nation's Capital who really are unhappy with the man.

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