* * * BREAKING: HILLARY *ISN'T* 44! * * *

[Zhade]

Yes, this is a bit of gloating, but for a good cause: to remind those who early on arrogantly proclaimed in print and graphics that clinton was a shoo-in, an unstoppable candidate who WOULD be the nominee no matter what.

I'd rethink that hubris now that your candidate failed to win despite her increasingly desperate tactics. Your arrogance helped fuel her proven lies and machinations, and helped destroy her chances.

Your arrogance. Not Obama's (WHAT arrogance?) or his supporters. Yours. Something to consider the next time you fly high with unearned overconfidence.

(And for fun - recommend this if clinton supporters' arrogance influenced you away from clinton even a little bit.)

EDITED to correct misspelling.

[gulfcoastliberal]

1. LOL - K&R

And thank goodness for that!

[Cant trust em]

This is all old news. I'm moving forward to the GE.

Clinton lost and I see no reason to rub her supporters faces in it.

I'm just excited for Obama to mop the floor with that other guy.

[onehandle]

2. * * * BREAKING: YOU ARE A BITTER WINNER * * *

How fucking sad, and I am not a Hillary supporter.

[Zhade]

17. I'm not bitter at all. I have a HUGE smile on my face.

(I could have made it clearer that this is directed only at the clinton-will-win-no-matter-what diehards, whose opinion I couldn't possibly discount any less.)

[guruoo]

72. Here ya go...

UR welcome to use the hyperlink...

[Captain Hilts]

3. A "shoe-in"????

Jerk!

[EFerrari]

8. You don't remember the months most of us were told to shut up

because she was a shoe in and inevitable?

Wow.

[Zhade]

21. I specifically remember the website hillaryis44.com and the logos some DUers sported.

Oh, I'm not gonna Tell u who... but they were there.

[HughBeaumont]

66. "Tell u" who . .. hee hee.

:)

That WAS obnoxious of them. Karma be a bitch.

[Captain Hilts]

30. It's not spelled 'shoe'. The press picked Howard Dean and the NE Patriots too.

It means NOTHING.

Psst. Don't believe everything you read. ESPECIALLY here.

[EFerrari]

33. It isn't the reading at all as much as the experience

of being told to stfu because she was inevitable.

In any case, it will be good to leave the place of the sewage.

[Zhade]

39. Ooops! I concede the error!

Yikes!

In my defense, I'm not sure I've ever written that phrase before! :p

[Captain Hilts]

98. We've all done it....nt

[Poll_Blind]

4. Woot! n/t

PB

[Happyhippychick]

5. Not necessary or helpful

[Zhade]

24. Don't care. I get this week, too, and I ENJOY rubbing it on the faces of such arrogant assholes.

They were wrong (thankfully), and maybe they've been taken down a much-needed peg.

Besides, I'm not going to start another gloating thread, so whatever.

[Happyhippychick]

57. You really don't get it. This isn't about how they look, it's about how you look.

[Zhade]

61. I guess I haven't made it clear - those who are offended by this, that's their problem.

I truly do not care what they think of me.

[Happyhippychick]

90. I know you don't care. But that's why it's sad - you don't care that you're offending people. Why?

[musicblind]

118. well said happyhippychick

[emilyg]

6. Dumb op.

[Zhade]

25. Your candidate lost. Of course you think so.

If you weren't one of those arrogant ones, it's not directed at you.

[emilyg]

28. Wrong. I think it's

a dumb post because it servrs no positive function.

[EFerrari]

38. That standard would shut down DU.

:silly:

[Zhade]

42. If even ONE of those I mentioned in the post realizes that their arrogance helped clinton lose...

...then it's done something by making them rethink their hubris.

[RaleighNCDUer]

68. It serves as a reminder of the dangers of hubris. nt

[apocalypsehow]

85. I love this OP. It is spot-on. n/t.

[mudesi]

7. Her arrogance was THE reason she lost

I used to think it was her war vote, but I realized later that it was her arrogance. She completely underestimated her competition. She thought it would've been over on super Tuesday.

[Yukari Yakumo]

11. Burn!

[Darth_Kitten]

13. You can read Clinton's mind now? Please get out more.

n/t

[jenmito]

31. You don't have to be a mind-reader. Read THIS:

SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON: A much less compressed environment. So from my perspective, you get up every day and you get out there and you make your case and you reach as many people as possible. That's what I intend to do, so I'm in it for the long run. It's not a very long run. It'll be over by February 5th.”

[mudesi]

37. YouTube is your friend

Watch it and weep.

It'll be over by Feb. 5th

"No I haven't"

[RaleighNCDUer]

71. Not reading her mind, but her actions. nt

[iamjoy]

9. No, But Your Arrogance...

the arrogance of Clinton supporters wasn't what influenced me away from her, but the arrogance of Obama supporters darn nearly influenced me away from him.

Keep it up, and we'll have McCain in the White House in 2009

[Zhade]

27. Yeah, because I'M the one who started obamais44.com.

Please.

[RaleighNCDUer]

73. What, the arrogance of seeing the truth, and speaking it?

And being right?

Unforgivable!

[Teaser]

10. Let it go.

Why hold onto this? People are wrong, people make incorrect judgements. People support losing candidates and say thing they shouldn't.

We're all likely to do it. Stomping someone's face on the curb ain't worth the energy it requires. And it leaves a mess afterwards.

[Zhade]

29. It's the arrogance I'm attacking, and it needed to be said.

Now that I've gotten the chance, I'm glad I did. Don't worry, I won't spend this week on the point. Just wanted it recorded.

[Darth_Kitten]

12. Who said Clinton was a shoo-in?

People who need to crow like you are very insecure, desperate people indeed.
I'm really sorry you weren't given more guidance and structure in your early years.

[Zhade]

44. You honestly don't remember the rallying cry "Hillary is 44!"?

Your insults wash over me like water, leaving me untouched. I don't need affirmation from the likes of you, I'm good.

[RaleighNCDUer]

76. Who indeed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WsPmZ1zDeA&feature=related

[shaniqua6392]

14. This has been done so many times it is boring.

Everyone is going to be still so focused on Clinton that McCain will become President.

[Divine Discontent]

20. nah... we'll be fine. it is nice to hear that she'll concede and endorse,

then, hopefully never be involved again in national politics. She lied and attacked, oh, and MOCKED Obama and his supports, frequently. I'm glad she's going to be gone.

[Zhade]

46. Blame Verizon, I have no internet at home. : (

But yes, death to McLame!

(ELECTORALLY, mr. FBI!)

[Divine Discontent]

15. #5

yes, putting "IS" instead of "for" in their title showed cockiness.

This one is so much better than my post, because mine takes several minutes to read, and who has time for that. LOL

The one thing about her is behavior on the trail - that 1st video I put in my post sums her up beautifully - I could NEVER see her as president after watching that mocking, saying, 'the skies will open up' and that horrible tone she says it in... barf.

take care!

New Obama Items Weekly!
www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable

[hfojvt]

16. it ain't over until it's over

Watch Ditka. My money is on Ditka.

[EFerrari]

18. Your hateful post of hate is the hating of a hater who hates.

So there!

And, it was explicitly the Clinton campaign tactics that pushed me to listen to Obama. I didn't like either of them much at all.

People won't like this but, we'll get to calm soon enough.

[Divine Discontent]

22. after she endorses and ends her DRAWN OUT exit....

then everything will calm down... she really made a bunch of people dislike her greatly these past 6 months, and, this grand exit, and not conceding 2 nights ago was a bit much.

take care! :)

[EFerrari]

26. We'll be okay.

:)

[jenmito]

19. You wanna borrow this?:

[Zhade]

47. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

That's the EXACT graphic I meant!

[jenmito]

51. I know. I took the original and changed it to reflect reality...

:hi:

[guruoo]

23. "There will be some jerks on the winning side who insist on gloating." ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6285770

[MethuenProgressive]

41. I recommend this post.

.

[guruoo]

63. This works much better...

You're welcome to use the hyperlink...

"There will be some jerks on the winning side who insist on gloating."

[EFerrari]

45. And there will be people who have been insulted here every day

for months that need to make a statement. Which might be one reason Skinner cleared the decks for a week.

Let people have their process. It's not like this is the UN or anything. We're friends here. If someone goes off, they probably need to.

[musicblind]

122. For every insult placed toward Obama by Hillary supporters on DU

there was just as nasty an insult hurlted towards Hillary supporters by Obama supporters on DU. This OP is uncalled for. This is a discussion board. Not a place to "go off" there are therapists for that.

I am shocked at the people who will not be good winners just as much as I am shocked at the people who are being sore losers and claiming they will vote for McCain.

[Zhade]

49. Yawn. I already admitted to gloating that my candidate SPANKED your lying one.

NT!

[totodeinhere]

74. There is a fine line between gloating and celebrating.

Our guy won so please let us celebrate and have some fun. It was a long grueling primary campaign and now I don't think it's so bad to be able to let our hair down. And after all, anything said at DU is extremely unlikely to have any influence whatsoever one way or the other on the outcome of the general election

[quickesst]

32. Contrary to Obama's....

own words of praise for HRC today, it is clear his supporter really don't give a shit what he thinks, and continue to provide undisputable proof that hating a Clinton is more important than Obama, or his words. Clinton hatred is the wind beneath the wings of Obama support. Shame I have to cast my vote for a man who's own fans think his words are empty. Thanks.
quickesst

[EFerrari]

35. Hating, hatred, Two points!

lol

[Zhade]

50. I'm not speaking on his behalf, and who knows what he REALLY thinks about her.

If he's a better person than I, that's okay. I can live with it.

[Moloch]

34. Its true..

Hillary Clinton had everything going for her and she still lost. Obama and his supporters had passion and that's what won us the nomination and will win us the presidency.

[ampad]

36. Oh you!

I never liked Hillary so the thought of voting her never really crossed me. I will rec just for the hell of it.

[Spider Jerusalem]

40. Clinton's own arrogance turned me off on her.

The most vocal of her supporters, who reflected that arrogance, I saw more as cultish zealots. (See: the nutjobs calling her 'the goddess of peace', comparing her to Jeanne d'Arc, etc.)

[Zhade]

53. Exactly. Maybe my OP isn't very endearing, but it's the damn truth.

NT!

[Captain Hilts]

102. You don't get to be president without being arrogant. nt

[Spider Jerusalem]

105. You mean like Jimmy Carter, right?

Can you really think that someone whose arrogance and sense of entitlement are in the same league as George W Bush's is a good choice for the presidency? If so, why?

[Captain Hilts]

112. 'Nuff said. Carter was a lousy president. FDR was the most arrogant of them all. JFK...

runs close.

You have to be arrogant to run for president at 47 with only two years in the senate. And good for him. You need to be arrogant to be president. Harry Truman was arrogant. It's something the good 20th Century presidents all have in common.

[Spider Jerusalem]

114. There's a difference between confidence and arrogance.

And people actually LIKED JFK and FDR. Hillary is NOT LIKABLE.

[DerekJ]

43. For the Love of God ..STOP IT.

[Zhade]

56. Look, you may not like it, but you're not going to control me or anyone else, got it?

The fact remains that such arrogance existed, STILL continues to exist, and was a huge part of her downfall from inevitable to not-even-VP.

I'm not PROUD of having to post this thread, but it did need to be said, IMHO.

[emilyg]

91. You're very proud to post this

I imagine you sitting in your underwear, farting your life away, waiting for another hateful inspiration.

[MGKrebs]

48. Neither is Obama.

We haven't really won anything yet.

[Zhade]

58. A good point. We do have a battle ahead of us.

I think we can win (which is very different from the arrogance I decried).

[varelse]

52. This is counterproductive

Indulging in petty, mean-spirited gloating when you could be celebrating Obama's nomination in a positive and constructive way is neither original nor is it particularly inspiring. There's a much bigger battle ahead of us all, and I for one want the "Hillary is 44" people on OUR side of it, not on the sidelines. Please reconsider the tone you are taking here.

Thank you

[EFerrari]

54. Thanks, Mom. n/t

[Zhade]

59. I don't agree with your premise. Pointing out damaging arrogance isn't petty.

NT!

[totodeinhere]

83. Check out what they are saying at Hillary is 44.

I for one want the "Hillary is 44" people on OUR side of it, not on the sidelines.

If you go to that site you will see that the vast majority of posters there not only are going to vote for McCain, they are going to contribute to him and actively work for him.

I'm all for party unity, but the sort of thing you can read at that site should be exposed for what it is.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

55. We won -- knock it off.

[EFerrari]

60. People would calm down much sooner if all the DU nannies would just

take a break.

Not everyone is on the same clock.

Knock off telling people to knock it off and we'll be fine.

[ampad]

62. I know they are out in full force

You know hide thread and ignore are wonderful.

[EFerrari]

87. Thanks for the reminder. You're right.

And here's looking forward. :toast:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

65. Can't we be gracious in victory?

[EFerrari]

69. That is the goal. Prescribing for other people, not so much.

What does it hurt to let people get it out of their system? It's not like we're in Times Square with a bullhorn wearing Skinner's bumper sticker.

We'll be just fine. This is a community, lol, of people who care about each other a great deal. :)

[Zhade]

70. You have to admit it's very difficult to take their SHIT for months...

...and not get a chance to make my point until now, when she's finally accepted her loss - which was in part fueled by this arrogance.

I'm not interested in graciousness with this post. I don't have to kiss their asses after they lied and attacked Obama supporters for this long.

Give me some time.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

81. I think the time for attacking them has passed.

You and I and many other Obama supporters hit them right back during the campaign, and that was fine, but personally, I would rather look forward now and move on without rubbing people's faces in it.

Just my two cents.

[Zhade]

84. This is the first and only chance I've had to remind them of their hubris.

She's only now accepted her loss.

FINALLY.

I needed closure.

[EFerrari]

89. And your sense of that timing is important.

Now, there are other folks who have a different sense of that timing and they will come on board.

There are trolls here who just want to keep things stirred up, no doubt. But, most posters are just our DU friends who are finding their way here. Wait up. :)

Edit: I'm in competition to be the very worst nanny. lol

[ampad]

79. I understand your point

but not all people are on the same page and since everyone has a week to get it out of the system why not let them, then it will be over. After all the Wright shit, the sweetie shit, the Rezcko, Obama Muslim shit well I can understand how some people want to gloat. It may not be pretty but as I said it will be over soon.

[Zhade]

64. Let me make something clear - I don't take orders from other DUers unless they're moderators.

We won, but that arrogance is still festering and needs to be acknowledged.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

67. It was a suggestion, not a demand.

Take it how you want.

[Zhade]

78. Okay. I guess it just looked so similar to the actual demands above.

Anyway, I've made my point. On to kicking McLame's ass.

[EFerrari]

86. McSame. McMore. Look out!

:toast:

[Zhade]

88. Yes, we WILL toast him - to an electoral crisp!

GOBAMA!

[emilyg]

92. Your arrogance is festering

how much of it will be left in November of O does not win?

[KamaAina]

75. Well, like, duh!

She's 60. :-)

That is all.

[Zhade]

82. Ha! A nice light-hearted jest. Thank you.

I now retire from this thread, my point having been made.

And no, I'm not ashamed of the OP, if anyone wonders.

[demmiblue]

77. No shit... really?!

[apocalypsehow]

80. Big K & R.

:thumbsup:

[ms liberty]

93. Obama was never my first choice (Gore was). Clinton was always my last choice. I'm happy. n/t

[Raejeanowl]

94. Just A Few More Days Of This...Sigh n/t

[Occam Bandage]

95. ***BREAKING: SHIT HAS SUCCESSFULLY BEEN STIRRED***

[varelse]

96. Hehe

Hopefully Obama's influence will be felt here soon, and his own grace and generosity in victory will be emulated by his supporters.

[Nedsdag]

97. Hillary was NEVER 44.

n/t

[Arugula Latte]

99. I recall being told "Hillary WILL be the nominee. Then we'll say 'we told you so.'"

The arrogance of Hillary and some (SOME!) of her just-as-cocky supporters really pissed me off right from the start.

But, hey, if she finally concedes I'll try to get my anger out of my system and just let it go, finally ...

[StevieM]

100. The arrogance is fictional. There was a narrative that she supposedly thought she was inevitable

not an actual history of it.

Steve

[EFerrari]

106. Right. Her graceful concession speech belies the tall tales of her arrogance.

:crazy:

[workinclasszero]

101. LMAO!

What a bunch of pathetic losers at that Hillary/McBush is 44 site!:rofl:

[jgraz]

103. While this is kind of a dickish OP...

I'm absolutely sure it's not nearly as bad as what Hillary supporters had in store for us had she won the nomination.

[AtomicKitten]

104. Yep. No 44 for her.

:thumbsup:

[JI7]

107. to be fair it was the same few who would gloat like that

and i haven't seen most of them on here since Obama got enough delegates to be the nominee.

[Hart2008]

108. It is time that she stops lying about her age. n/t

[JVS]

109. That's some mighty fine gloating there, Mr. B

/Chief wiggum

[regnaD kciN]

110. Yes, she is...in base 14!

:evilgrin:

[Lerkfish]

111. happy to kick and recommend

[dailykoff]

113. Quit pickin on CHELSEA!!11!!

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Boojatta]

115. It's okay if she's not 44. Provided that she's at least 35...

she fulfills the constitutional requirement for the Presidency.

[Two Americas]

116. I never supported Clinton

I never supported the candidacy of Clinton; was strongly opposed to it. But I have no need to gloat, celebrate her loss, or ridicule her supporters. I don't remember any of these terrible offenses that Clinton supporters are supposedly guilty of, and I have no desire for revenge. If they were over-confident, so what? She was the front runner at one time. I can't understand the deep sense of being harmed or offended that some Obama supporters seem to be feeling, nor do I understand the melodramatic ultimate showdown between good versus evil characterization of the race.

I don't think this has anything to do with Clinton, nor with Clinton supporters and their supposed crimes, nor even with "supporting" or promoting the Obama candidacy. I think it reflects an emotional need that some Obama supporters have - they are using the Obama candidacy; abusing the candidacy really - as an excuse to lord it over others and get a vicarious feeling of personal power by associating themselves with the winner, and vent personal frustrations and express hatred and belligerence ina "safe" way, just the way some sports fans do with their favorite team. Some seem to feel compelled to indulge themselves in this even if it hurts the party's chances in the general, and I believe that it will.

[jonestonesusa]

117. I don't know...this is tame...with some hilarious one-liners!

It's the end of a family fight, that's all. Everyone moves on in their own way - the primaries are over, or at least they will be tomorrow.

Go Dems!

[FlyingSquirrel]

119. Error: You've already recommended that thread.

[musicblind]

120. Threads like this don't say much about Hillary supporters

but they do say a lot about you.

[Runcible Spoon]

121. I heart this thread, and it delivers!

ZHADE YOU ROCK!