Should Kerry Condemn Harkin's Remarks on Cheney, too?

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Poll question: Should Kerry Condemn Harkin's Remarks on Cheney, too?

"When I hear this coming from Dick Cheney, who was a coward, who would not serve during the Vietnam War, it makes my blood boil," Harkin said. "Those of us who served and those of us who went in the military don't like it when someone like a Dick Cheney comes out and he wants to be tough. Yeah, he'll be tough. He'll be tough with somebody else's blood, somebody else's kids. But not when it was his turn to go."

That was Hannity's response just now. Sorry to bring the old Faux News talking points to you, but this is fresh spin, and it seems like news to me.

What do you think?

[Racenut20]

1. Campaign should leave it alone and let Harkin do his thing.

[kwolf68]

2. Amazing

Cheney told Pat Leahy to go F*** himself...Yet Calamity thinks this is a big issue.

The sad thing is Crashcart IS A COWARD. That's the problem. He's a chickenhawk, hypocritical puss.

BTW-I vote NO...If there was a choice for HELL NO, i'd have voted for that.

I hope like hell Senator Harkin doesn't apologize and Kerry doesn't do a damn thing. I sent Harkin an email giving him my back as many of us did, so Harkin doesn't need to make amends with those pricks.

They didn't condem the bullshit they dumped on every single one of our guys so screw em.

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3. So...why condemn the Move-On ad, but not this? nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. Harkin Didn't Make An Ad (nt)

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9. So what?

He said it to a bunch of reporters in public. He was making a political statement. It's the same thing.

[bossfish]

6. Harkin didn't make a commercial...

He's a long-standing senator popular with the base. He is not a 527.

[Bread and Circus]

7. I'm with you there....I disagree with Kerry's condemnation....

moveon.org ad.

[kwolf68]

8. Politics

Easy...For Kerry...

The MoveOn ad condemnation was a way to distinguish himself from Chimp not condeming the SlimeBoatVets ad.

The Harkin v. Cheney thing could be responded to by highlighting Cheneys response after he was called out on the FU to Leahy. Crashcart never apologized, no remorse at all.

If Harkin or ANYONE bails on this I will be pissed. Screw those bastards. He tells our guy to FU and doesn't do shit for an apology, Chimp doesn't say anything????

We can play that same crap. GO TOM HARKIN!!!!

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10. Right, but now he has to condemn Harkin, too

It's character politics, which Kerry is trying to make the point that he's getting away from.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. "A Foolish Consistency Is The Hoggoblin Of A Small Mind"

H.L. Mencken...


If I was JFK I would say Senator Harken speaks for himself and as a VETERAN he has earned that right...

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13. Consistency....right.

You voted "no" on this poll, right?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. I Voted No Because It's Not In Kerry's Or The Party's Self Interest To

Do So....

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19. LOL

So you're for character attacks against the Bush administration, as long as the person is a veteran?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. I Am For All Character Attacks That Serve The Benefit Of The Party

nt

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24. Like MoveOn's ad. Seems to me that people

need to know about Bush's disgraceful NG record.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. They Do...

Read this slowly.....


They need to know that Bush is a spineless coward who masquerades as a tough guy cowboy and Kerry laments the fact that this is true....

[kwolf68]

14. No

The ads are political advertisements, propaganda if you will.

The comment from Harkin to FU is an issue between two men. Completely different issues.

Why should Kerry have to go around apologizing for everything every Democrat says?

FU says what he said to Leahy and no one asks the Blurb in the WhiteHouse to condem...Whoopi G makes a bunch of poor taste comments about President Flounder-Monkey and Kerry is asked to condem her while the freakozoids at the 700 Club continue their withdrawl from sanity and President Ass-Clown doesn't condem them.

Tom Harkin called a man a coward...HE GAVE EVIDENCE to suggest there is fact there. Why the hell should he be condemned for speaking truth. If FU wasn't such a moronic chickenhawk who bashed everyone who didn't see the world through his spec of dust lense then Harkin wouldn't have attacked him.

Kerry should selectively condemn things when it is politically expediant OR when a serious transgression has been made. Senator Harkin didn't do anything worth getting worked up over...

Although the right-wing media chamber will likely put a full-court press on this forcing us to even debate this silly question. Like I said, Screw em.

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16. They're both character issues

being played out for election-year politics. Kerry is either against the character attacks, or he isn't. And it makes no difference that Harkin's a veteran.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Pretty Soon Kerry Will Have To Apologize For What DUers Say About AWOL

nt

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20. And it would be lauded as a BRILLIANT

STRATEGICAL MOVE!!! by many here.

[bossfish]

18. It is "comparison" politics...

The swift boat stuff came out, the White House weaseled.

The moveon ad comes out and the Kerry folks make a strong statement, highlighting the "weasel-osity" of the Bushies.

Harkin is an individual who has earned the right to say what he wants.

I know there haven't been any GOP senators making cracks about Kerry, they're way too honorable, I'm sure.

[Carni]

34. If you hate Kerry so much

WTF do you even care?

[Carni]

32. Because Harkin is an individual

Not a group running advertising.

[Racenut20]

4. It would be good to see Harken dog pork chops footsteps and

hit him at every turn in the road. Every time he makes his dirty speech, counter it the same or next day at the same location.

[wurzel]

12. What is not true about what Harkin said? Apologize for the truth?

Dems do far too much of that.

[olddem43]

22. I agree, Cheney is a coward

and the worst kind too, who snipes at those who did serve. Every veteran or relative or friend of a veteran should be as angry at him as Sen. Harkin is. I can't stand the sight of that smirking, crooked coward.

[wurzel]

27. He talks like a bully or a coward. Bullies usually are not cowards.

Cheney's record is that of a coward. I don't mind his being a coward. I object to his sneering at a hero.

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23. Yes. They do. nt

[neoSattva]

25. This is Great!

The story hasn't gotten much coverage - So Faux News is getting it out there for us. Who woulda thunk it?!?!

Kerry should just leave it alone and let Harkin, and hopefully others, run with stuff like this - Things that should be said.

[wurzel]

29. Good Point. Do you think Hannity is a closet Democrat?

A joke!!

[Peachhead22]

28. To further emphasize my vote

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllll NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Harkin was right on the friggen mark!

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30. Yeah. Screw those Move-On people, though.

They were WAY off.

[Carni]

31. Harkin isn't a "group" running an ad

He is an individual person speaking for himself and I am sure Kerry's response will be something to the effect of Tom Harkin is more than entitled to his opinion.

Hannity is a really bad example of "blow back" from Kerry's so called condemnation of the moveon.org ads (if that is what you are trying to illustrate)

Since when ISN'T Fannie-ty indignantly calling for something or another from Dems?

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33. Does that apply to Cheney's FU, too?

Should Bush have not condemned what Cheney said, because he's an individual?

It makes no difference whether or not views are being pushed by an individual or a group. The issue at hand here is whether or not Kerry is willing to engage in personal attacks, whether he thinks they should be in politics.

[Carni]

37. I don't recall bush condemning it?

Is Harkin Kerry's running mate?

Did Edwards tell someone to fuck themselves?

I must have missed it.

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38. No, he didn't...but wouldn't you have said that he should?

Even though he's an individual?

[iwantmycountryback]

35. Absolutely not

Cheney tells a Dem senator to fuck off, and he says it makes him feel better. Are we supposed to feel bad about calling him a coward, which is the truth? It's good to not be negative but we just cannot let this yellow puppetmaster get away with the shit he pulls.

[Jack Rabbit]

36. Condemn Harkin over a remark about Cheney?

We have other priorities.

[MaryBear]

39. Ads imply candidate involvement.

Harkin spoke only for himself. It was not an ad, but a response.

Also, he backed up his opinion with facts, not Bushwelian fantasy.