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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:01 AM
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How are the debates going to go?
Edited on Wed Aug-18-04 09:34 AM by bryant69
I mean by all accounts President Bush and Rove have been running one of the dirtiest most negative campaigns in history; how is he going to look Kerry in the face? I know President Bush has no shame, but i would guess it would only take a few statements from Kerry to make explicit how dirty this campaign has been, and then President Bush has to answer it.

My guess is that they are doing everything they can to take that off the table; because that is where it might blow up for them. On the other hand they could be planning on a complicit media and a spinless Kerry to never ask the obvious questions.

Bryant
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:04 AM
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1. I hope they plan on Kerry being spineless
because they will be in for a BIG SURPRISE!
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:07 AM
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3. Yes, haven't you heard?
Dubya is going to clean Kerry's clock. Since Kerry is such a stiff and Dubya is such a folksy, plain-spoken man.

(pass it on...) ;)


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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:05 AM
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2. Bush will win hands down. Kerry will be wiped up by him
That's the meme that should be pushed by us, anyway.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:31 AM
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6. Well I'm sure; but there is also the Credibility problem
I mean if people seeing the debate can see President Bush's lack of composure or his anger or his shallow thinking or whatever, it's going to be hard to spin.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 10:44 AM
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8. Agreed
Bush will win folks over with his charming, down-home patriotic platitudes full of empty slogans, while Kerry will give long, fact-based, thoughtful answers and will come across as an aloof, intellectual elitist that is out of touch with mainstream America.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:09 AM
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4. Counterproductive: SOunds whiney and weak

There are bigger fish to fry. Let the voters decide that for themselves. Many studies have shown that voters tend to be turned off by negative campaigning. I'd speculate this is more true of independents and fence-sitters than those already ideologically committed, and those are exactly the voters that Bush needs to woo.

SO while a lot of negativity may juice the committed to them and enhance turnout, it might antagtonise the opponents into the same and lose the swing voters.

Hence, at a certain point it risks becoming an inneffective if not counterproductive tactic.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:14 AM
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5. All Kerry has to do is point out that bush
is incompetent and watch bush blow up. Point out his mistakes in a round about way. bush is so nervous and unsure that he is going to win that anything to make him lose his cool is a good thing. He is depressed and the medication will make him expose himself as a dope.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 10:45 AM
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9. sorry
Negative ads have been proven effective over many years of study. While people claim they dislike them, they leave an impression and are what people remember.
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Wheelie_Alex Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 10:38 AM
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7. Kerry could do bad in the debates,
if Bush sticks to what he has been saying all along and ropes Kerry into having to define himself, voters are just waiting for Kerry to give drawn out convoluted answers with an out. The Bush camp has done this one thing well, the have made the general public see Kerry as a waffle and flip flopper and hopefully they won't get this impression from the debates.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 11:33 AM
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10. Kerry will win on all factual content; Bush* judged the winner.
The media and a majority of polls will say Bush* won. Bush* will be proclaimed more "presidential", more at ease, more straightforward. Kerry will be seen as more thoughtful, and therefore the loser.

Only in America!
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