Now that Hillary is 44 has moreorless openly endorsed McCain...

[ButterflyBlood]

Can we start tombstoning people who promote that cesspool?

[w13rd0]

1. yes...

...seconded.

[JI7]

2. i think Hillary is 44 has ALWAYS been run by Republicans

[Why Syzygy]

48. If it wasn't, it is now, as is hillaryclintonforum..

They have been infiltrated to the hilt and most are not aware of it yet.

[regnaD kciN]

65. From what I hear, the owner of that site...

...Alex Rodriguez (not the baseball player) is an "activist" of the Perot/Nader persuasion -- i.e., someone who wants the Democratic Party to disappear because it is too "indistinguishable" from the Republicans. (Somehow, that can best be achieved by electing McCain, I guess. :crazy: )

My guess is that, had Clinton gotten off to a huge lead in the early primaries, these same people would have put up an Obama-front website with a similar "outraged" tone, and would currently be urging all Obama supporters to vote for McCain, since Hillary winning the nomination would be due to "massive racism" among Democrats. :eyes:

[Scooter24]

3. What's funny are the new "Clintons4McCain" type websites

popping up all over now. I did a little background research tonight to find out who are the people behind some of these sites. Right now, all I was able to find was the owner of "MissHillaryClinton" who is a 31-year old, gay wal-mart employee who lives in Durham, NC. He was also on some local "apprentice-type" game show. I also found his blog site and both myspace accounts :rofl:

One website goes so far as to cite statistics from the website "StopTheACLU," the ultra-conservative organization whose sole purpose is to bring down the ACLU. I guess they forgot that the ACLU is on their side (one article "ACLU and National Abortion Federation Criticize Decision by U.S. Supreme Court Upholding Federal Abortion Ban was easily overlooked I suppose) not to mention the articles-

"Hillary Supporter Freaking Out: Pure Moonbat Entertainment!"
"Hillary Clinton Exposed!"
"MSM Ignores Another Hillary Lie"
"AP Reporter Calls Chelsea Clinton “Tall and Attractive” Wait, What?…" (excerpt: Pandering or bad vision?…)
"Hillary Was For Licenses For Illegals Before She Was Against Them"
"Hillary Clinton: Short on Straight Answers"
"Hillary’s Eavesdropping Hypocrisy"
"Video: Hillary Clinton Would Engage In Unconditional Negotiations With Iran"
"Hillary — Not Real Sharp"

Remember, these articles are from the website which was cited by a "Democratic" website for their anti-Obama articles in an effort to win Clinton voters :rofl:

[niceypoo]

9. That is funny, sounds like an Obama supporter from the DU runs it...

Given all of that tripe.

[klook]

24. Well, we're all Obama supporters now.

Aren't we, nicepoo?

[roguevalley]

62. live up to your name.

[VolcanoJen]

4. I'lll say it again and flame away....

... but Hillaryis44 is a GOP ratfuck site. I never believed it was a true and noble Hillary site, and I certainly don't believe it now.

[ButterflyBlood]

5. Very likely

Making the fact it was ever allowed to be promoted here all the more disgusting.

[Swamp Rat]

6. Leave us rats out of it!

O8)

[VolcanoJen]

8. Ha!!!!!!

Sorry I used such a dirty word, but it takes filth to describe the GOP, you know. ;-)

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

12. Oh, you're in it, Swampy, in it up to your eyeballs...

[TahitiNut]

67. Well, that's only because you have a KSOTO

:silly: :dunce:

[niceypoo]

7. I will never understand the obsession people have with that stupid site....

of 300 or so people. Certain people here are obsessed with it.

[Blue-Jay]

10. Check out this shitbag (and frequent contributor to H44)!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ri1expqE6X8&eurl=http://www.villarrealsports.com/phpBB2/index.php

He kisses his bicep at 9:52! :rofl:

[totodeinhere]

11. I think they are pretty much irrelevant at this point.

I wouldn't worry about it. There is no way in hell that a fringe site like that could ever have any effect whatsoever on the fall election's outcome.

[vaberella]

13. Hence the reason I will NEVER forgive Hillary for endorsing McCain. She opened the doors for this

divide. Now they can't be closed. But yeah, fuck'em.

[Julius Civitatus]

22. Hillary endorsed McCain? WTF?

Hillary endorsed Obama.
Stop seeding hate in these boards, please.

[lumberjack_jeff]

40. Yeah. Right after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

(let it go, she's on a roll)

[MonkeyFunk]

14. I think we should ban anyone who goes there

and reports about it back here.

[WeDidIt]

15. The owner of the site is still a DUer in good standing

Go figure.

[LibraLiz1973]

18. Eek!

I did not know that

[Zachstar]

20. Who?!

[MH1]

23. Really? Is

T_______ the one you speak of?

How certain are you of your info? Have you sent it to Skinner?

Because if it is proven then the person should probably be banned here. And if they aren't banned then one would have to wonder why.

Keeping in mind that if it is who I think, they have a long history of trashing Democrats on this site. But apparently that behavior isn't sufficient grounds for banning.

[HooptieWagon]

37. I don't think

T______ is the owner of H44, it's my understanding it's registered to an Alex Rodriguez (not the BB player), who is a political trouble maker. T_____ has advocated and promoted that site on DU, and posted talking points from that site. I'm going to assume that most of the dingbats on that site are in fact true HRC supporters (including T____), and have been taken in and whipped into a hate-frenzy by the probable puke trolls that operate that site. I don't think a TSing is warranted at this time, give them time to come back to reality. Of course, if any continue to post pro-McC/anti-Obama talking points here on DU, they've broken DU rules and should be TS'd.

[burythehatchet]

33. rhymes with Fellurian?

[cottonseed]

64. sounds like Tool Aryan?

[Richard Steele]

46. You have a very broad definition of "good standing", I take it. nm

[WeDidIt]

59. So long as you cna post

you are a DUer in good standing

[virtualobserver]

16. They should change the name to McCain is 44 (or maybe McCain is 72)

[Honeycombe8]

17. That is a Repub site. It shouldn't be quoted or discussed much in this forum, IMO. nt

[Zachstar]

19. I agree!

[alteredstate]

21. I think it's time to get rid of anyone who is here to trash our candidate.

If the owner of Hillary is 44 is an active member of this board, he/she should be TS'd.

Today.

[Julius Civitatus]

25. Now that Hillary is 44 has been openly OUTED as a GOP operation

can we STOP making new threads about whatever the heck those Operation Chaos Republican dirty-tricksters are saying.

Please STOP going to that site.
Please STOP giving a crap about they say over there.
And more importantly, please STOP lumping those trolls with Hillary supporters.

Enough!

[QC]

26. Why the obsession with this irrrelevant fringe site?

There are probably more threads about that site on DU than there are threads on that site.

It's weird.

[MH1]

27. Because one of the early promoters, maybe the site founder,

has been allowed to trash leading Democrats here at DU for a LONG time.

Personally, I am very curious as to why.

[Colobo]

29. I wonder too.

[Moochy]

42. Big Donor for the win!

[acmavm]

49. Obama supporters have been trashing dems for months themselves

Hillary supporters are democrats and there was no name too disgusting that you people who are bitching right now didn't use against them. Now you gonna bitch about people acting exactly like you did?

Hilarious!

[MH1]

54. Point to a post of mine where I used a "disgusting name" against Clinton.

I may have used the "B-word" early on because I wasn't raised to consider it misogynistic, but I tried to stop after seeing how it was received here. I have called her a back-stabber, but that is my honest observation, and when I have done so I have explained why I think that. (10/31/06, if you don't know.)

Also, the attacks on Obama and Clinton in the context of the primary are apparently considered a special case around here. But I am talking about attacks on other Democrats outside the context of a Democratic primary. (Like calling Nancy Pelosi "botox-head" - posted by a supposed Clinton supporter, but I guess it's not misogyny when a Clinton supporter does it).

[bvar22]

75. When Hillary was mathematicly eliminated from the nomination,

her attacks, and her supporters attacks on the nominee became attacks on the Democratic Party, and hurt our chances in November.

[QC]

51. I don't remember seeing you complaining when Clinton, Edwards, and others

were trashed on a daily basis here. Hell, some days pretty much everything posted here was some kind of slam on a Democrat.

Your selective outrage makes me wonder exactly why you insist on stirring this particular turd.

[MH1]

53. You don't see alerts.

There is criticism, then there is trashing. You will find few if any of my posts that ever "trashed" Clinton, unless you have a very broad definition of trashing. I'll admit that I'm not perfect, but I have specific problems with Clinton and have voiced them specifically, on occasions where it seemed warranted.

[KaptBunnyPants]

69. I have never seen said poster tell people to vote McCain.

You know there's a difference but you're so stuck in your arguments that you don't care. It's a shame your anger will keep you from enjoying the Democratic resurgence. At least with the Hillary folks the wound is still fresh. Edwards conceded months ago and endorsed Obama weeks ago. How long do you plan on carrying this chip on your shoulder, anyway?

[QC]

74. You know, you really should forego that new career in long distance psychoanalysis.

You're just not that good at it, kinda like Bill Frist and his video diagnoses.

The chip on my shoulder has to do with those who made DU into a cesspool for the past few months. Now that people are coming together, some of them are running around here frantically stirring the shit again, hoping to raise up that magical stench that they find so intoxicating.

No, we do not need to mount a witch hunt against some obscure, fringe website. We do not need daily loyalty oaths. We do not need more of what we have had here for the past six months. Those who want conflict, who cannot live without stalking people and calling them names and in general acting like sociopaths, can go to the Yahoo boards, where that sort of thing is the house specialty.

[AllentownJake]

28. There is only one

and I haven't seen that poster since Wednesday.

The logo should be banned as it is now a RW website.

We should also stop talking about it.

[backscatter712]

30. I haven't seen Tellurian here in a while...

Some of the most *ahem* outspoken here haven't said much since Obama won the nomination...

[Jazzgirl]

31. Hmmm...

I couldn't figure out who everyone was talking about until you said backscatter. He has been on my ignore list for a while now.

[Liberal Veteran]

44. I'm sure they are just at home licking their wounds.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

32. who is promoting that here?

[MH1]

34. Several posters used to have it as their avatar.

Most of them had already been on my ignore list for attacking other democrats, and so I only knew because of high-traffic times when ignore didn't work.

Most of those changed their avatars. But they did still link to the site or discuss it positively for awhile.

It is alleged upthread that one of those was the founder of his44.

[blogslut]

52. Several?

As far as I know, only one poster has/had that site in their sig line. And from what I understand, that person was not the founder of the site.

[MH1]

55. At one time there were several. As in more than two.

I only know one for sure, but there were at least two others in the group of posters I've had on long-time ignore, I'm just not sure which two now. I think one of those might have been someone I know is not a troll, and probably was just initially taken in by the site.

[blogslut]

56. Okay

You may be right that there were more in the past.

I just know of the one poster - because that damned graphic they use looks like a frigging diaphragm and it pisses me off.

I am sure there were/are several DU members that go there, but as I have said, I only know of one DU member that actively supports it via signature file. That person has told me more than once that they are not Alex Rodriguez.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

68. so from 18 million voters for HRC more than 2 voted for mccain or propogated such an idea?

[george_maniakes]

35. just be careful it doesnt turn into a witch hunt. im sure some people supported that web site...

with good intentions.

[davidinalameda]

36. like they say

the road to hell is paved with good intentions

Freeperville is better than that site

[george_maniakes]

38. to be honest i visit free republic probably about once a month...

and im always surprised how fucked up some people are, and why im grateful for a site like this. Not to say this place doesnt have its fair share of nuts.

[muryan]

39. I visit freeperland everyday

Its part of the list of blogs I roll through everyday when i wake up, or get bored. It never hurts to see what they are saying, and I'm pretty sure Hannity pulled the Wright/Ayers stuff from there, because they were on top of it way before he was.

[sampsonblk]

47. Same here.

Always good to know what the other side is thinking

[lumberjack_jeff]

41. So much hate, so little time.

Get it out of your systems, guys.

[backscatter712]

43. Could HI44 and HCF join the list of Sites Which Shall Not Be Named?

Hmmm...

On second thought, no, Sites Which Shall Not Be Named On DU earn that status specifically because they attack DU in particular - they just join sites like FreeRepublic and Redstate...

[MadBadger]

45. They actually havent endorsed McCain

The site leaders want people to write in HIllary. The people who go to the site are voting mccain.

[Warren Stupidity]

50. There is no difference between those two positions.

[MadBadger]

57. One hurts us, the other hurts a lot.

[Warren Stupidity]

60. If you assume that person is a likely voter

who would normally vote for the Democratic ticket, the write in is -1 to Obama, 0 to McCain net 1 McCain where the McCain vote is -1 to Obama +1 to McCain net 2 McCain. So yes there is more damage from the McCain vote, but both positions hurt Obama.

[alcibiades_mystery]

58. Do you realy think "more or less" is one word?

:wow:

[Danger Mouse]

61. Can we stop giving attention to these scumbags? Please??

We make them appear legitimate.

[LowerManhattanite]

63. I can't help but notice...

...that the loudest cries of “It doesn't matter.” / “Let it go!” / “Stop mentioning them!” are the folks who routinely pat the backs of the people who dragged that site's rumor-mongering and hate here every damned day as anti-Obama/ anti-Dem talking points.

The place exists. It was a talking point / oppo research for numerous people here who would like us to forget that, and it bears the name of the almost-standard bearer for the Democratic party.

It still needs to be exposed and have its ass kicked. End of story.

[ShadowLiberal]

66. People who do stuff like this just make themselves and their cause look bad

I don't know about you, but if polls show Hillary supporters cost Obama the election, I can see Hillary's political career taking a severe blow, and lots of democrats blaming her for the loss and for not campaigning hard enough to get supporters like the people who run this site to support Obama. Yes Obama would certainly get some of the blame if he loses in 08', but Hillary supporters like the owner of that site are foolish if they think that what they're doing won't hurt Hillary's career as well if there's a large number of them on election day.

[PeaceNikki]

70. Has ANYONE promoted it here?

I know I have not read EVERY thread about it posted on DU ever, but EVERY one I've read was posted by someone slamming Hillary and mocking it.

I am not trying to be thick-headed, I an genuinely curious.

[ButterflyBlood]

71. Its logo is someone's signature

A few other posters had it as an avatar.

[PeaceNikki]

72. Active posters? Linking/eluding to the site?

Or were they supporting the IDEA that Hillary would be the 44th president? I think that's an important distinction.

[cbayer]

73. Yep, at the same time "we" start tombstoning those that continue to bathe in Hillary Hate.

The only poster I remember sporting that website's logo has not posted in gd:p lately and, I have never seen it promoted here. So I don't really get your point. Or maybe I do.