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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:08 PM Original message |
Are You Happy With The Current Primary/Caucus System? |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. We love our caucuses in Colorado. It gets people involved, allows |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Primaries Seem Easier Somehow |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Primaries are more subject to tampering. At caucuses we do NOT |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Plus, you tend to get a better informed voter in a caucus. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. That's right. And if someone asks that kind of question, they get an |
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BklynChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. 72 hours is impossible, no time for getting to know the candidates, fundraising, etc. It would end |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 08:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
106. oh, bullshit |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 08:25 AM Response to Reply #106 |
107. I call bullshit on you. The doors do NOT close in Colorado. If you |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #107 |
111. you have to sign in by 7 pm or you can't participate |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #111 |
113. Here are the rules. You can vote on the business being conducted |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #107 |
123. Some folks won't trust a stranger to baby-sit. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. You can bring your kids WITH you to hte caucus. Just like you do |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. Well, I would like all primaries |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
3. I don't like your idea for one simple reason. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. caucuses could be tweeked to allow run-off type ballots for those who can't attend |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
63. Our caucuses allow for anyone who wants to just show up, fill out a ballot, and leave. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
5. Caucuses Are The Most Stupid Things I've Ever Seen. We Should Lobby For Them To Be Done Away With. |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Ever been to one, sport? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. That's Gotta Be One Of The Dumbest Things I've Ever Heard. |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. You are entitled to your own opinion no matter how wrongheaded it might be. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Dumbest Argument I've Ever Heard. |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Well then, it's a good thing you have a say in how your state picks delegates. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Hopefully In The Next 4 Years A Big Push Will Be Made Everywhere To Rid Ourselves Of Them. |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. I trust my precinct captain a hell of lot more than I trust DRE. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. It's Not Because Of The Precinct Captain That Caucuses Are Plain Dumb. |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #52 |
67. Tell you what. Let's focus on getting rid of touch-screen voting and replacing it with verifiable.. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Washington Caucus Results: Obama 67% Hillary 32%. Primary Results: Obama 51% Hillary 46%. |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. And caucus counts are done by hand, whereas primary results are counted by machines |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #72 |
81. Done a couple of weeks apart and Obama still won. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. ROFLMAO!!!!!! |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. If you say so. Your apples and oranges argument is laughable. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #72 |
92. So? What does that prove? Hillary supporters were more energized to go and vote in the weeks-later |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. Maybe it was another Mark Penn blunder and he thought we only had a primary? |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
77. Oh goodie. And replace them with unverifiable, proprietary electronic voting machines? |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
118. Washington state voted to have primaries and the parties shut them down |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. Why don't you just answer the question? Have you ever been to a caucus? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. It's Irrelevant To The Context Of This Discussion. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Bullshit. If you're going to pronouce caucuses "a farce", it is indeed relevant to know whether |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #40 |
53. Do You Need To Have Fallen Off A High Ledge Head First To Know It Would Really Really Hurt? |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. That's because you have no arguments |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Since all you have is an uniformed (as in ignorant) OPINION, you are hardly in a position to judge |
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newmajority (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
59. Not nearly as seriously flawed and outright dumb as trusting electro-fraud machines. |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #12 |
58. Well I've been to caucuses THREE TIMES in Washington state |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #58 |
98. Don't Expect Them To Care. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 08:35 AM Response to Reply #58 |
108. this might interest you |
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cbc5g (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
24. I think they are fine for democracy - they reward good organization |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. They're Completely Flawed And Unrepresentative, And In No Way Serve Their Purpose. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Texas Itself Offers More Than Enough Proof. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
48. Texas only proves the power of targeted advertising and campaigning. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. That is also the purpose of caucuses. But not the only purpose -- caucuses also determine the state |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I Know It's Their Purpose. They Fail Miserably In Accomplishing It. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Since you've never been to one, how would you know? nt |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #39 |
54. Someone Else With This Dumbass Argument? |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Since you're an expert on caucuses, why don't you tell me how the |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #54 |
104. Baby, there are few here at DU with a more dumbass argument |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #39 |
60. I have attended a caucus and I say they suck, They disenfranchise a huge number of voters |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. What state? In Minnesota, you can walk in the door, fill out a ballot and leave. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Nevada |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Even if you just vote and leave, your vote is still counted. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. No- people who have to work or can't physically attend can vote absentee |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #75 |
83. A proxy system can take care of that. |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #69 |
85. Actually, in NV, you had to stay to the end for your preference ballot to count |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #65 |
90. I have a feeling that NV will change that casino caucus thingy in the future |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #90 |
99. I went to Nevada to canvas door to door and phone bank for Edwards |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Says he who doesn't know shit about caucuses. (nt) |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
101. Don't you know? |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #101 |
129. In HIS world. Thankfully, I live in the empirical world that relies upon facts and logic. (nt) |
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cbc5g (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. Theres no Operation Chaos voters in caucuses also...btw.. |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Well, there CAN be. But most people don't mind lying anonymously, so primaries are more open to... |
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cbc5g (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. The stronger candidate may not be the one with the name recognition |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
62. As opposed to unverifiable, proprietary electronic voting machines? |
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SanchoPanza (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #5 |
116. Caucuses have their benefits |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
6. I'm happy with it |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
9. Many states can't afford primaries. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
10. I like caucuses. So did everyone else, before Hillary took a pass on caucus states this go-around. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. Odd, that. Wonder why... nt |
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musicblind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
11. Now that this is over, once we have won in Nov, I'd like to focus on reworking our primary system |
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tnlurker (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
13. I am happy with it except |
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Blarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
17. I am fine with it. |
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PM7nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
18. I understand the arguments against caucuses... |
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cbc5g (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
21. Many states would be ignored in that system - the system we have now is fine |
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Zenmaster (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
22. I think it takes too long. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
26. The only way you can grab my caucus system is out of my cold dead hands. |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
27. I think the system should be left like it is |
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ampad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
30. We like the caucus system in WA |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Yep. It's odd how suddenly caucuses are hideous undemocratic constructs... |
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thoughtcrime1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
41. 3 days would be great for a well known candidate |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
43. No. A national primary would be much better. |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
46. Caucuses are party builders |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
66. Just think -- if Florida had a caucus system, run by the state Dem party instead of the legislature, |
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Undercurrent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
47. I love the caucus here in Washington state. |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Isn't it fascinating how the people who seem to hate caucuses the most are those don't have them? |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 10:18 PM Response to Reply #47 |
100. My hometown in Mass still governs by town meetings |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
56. No. I wish I had a caucus instead of a primary. nt |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
68. We need a 3 month system, no more than 5 each week |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
70. Hell no. The Democratic Primary process is an unmitigated disaster. |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
71. no caucuses are chaos |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. How so? Have you ever attended a caucus? |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. yes in vegas |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #76 |
88. Do you live in Vegas? |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #88 |
95. no I live in upstate NY I was visiting my mother and went with my brother to caucus |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 08:26 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Like I said, it was our first early caucus |
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texas_indy (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
73. And how would you get this implemented since each state/territory decides for themselves |
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MrRobotsHolyOrders (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
79. I'm in favor of a system were the precieved front runner wins by default |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #79 |
86. That's what we have right now. Wonderful, isn't it? n/t |
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dsomuah (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
80. National Primaries are undemocratic ... |
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hokies4ever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
87. Pro, it kept the corporate Dem from winning |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Ouch. That's gonna leave a mark. +1 |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. No kidding |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
93. I'm tickled pink with Michigan's primary system, |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
94. Trim the Super's from 800 to 400. Move all the dates closer together |
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mystieus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
102. Bill Clinton had no problem with Caucus... Only when you're losing it becomes a problem. |
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onetwo (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
103. This is why you DON'T do away with caucuses... |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
105. I'm Reasonably Happy with the Current System |
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philkd (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #105 |
124. excellent points |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
109. I have an issue with Iowa and New Hampshire. |
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MattNC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #109 |
117. ditto n/t |
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demokatgurrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
110. Not at all happy with it |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
112. I think caucuses should be encouraged. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
114. Did the system work - yes: The timing should be moved back and shortened |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. The Candidate With The Most Money Already Has A Huge Advantage |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #115 |
120. High name recognition tends to correlate with high funding. |
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Lisa0825 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
119. I'd like a 4 month primary, with blocks of states voting the same day each month. |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
121. That would favor the well-know and well-funded. |
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Tommy_Carcetti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
122. Not really. |
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philkd (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
125. Open vs Party Declared Only primary voting? |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
127. I don't like the 3-day primary idea, but I like the idea of all primaries. |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-10-08 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
128. I'm Happy as Long as the States are Happy |
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