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PatriotGames Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:40 AM
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One of Kerry's Vietnam critics debunked...
These guys just make themselves look dumber each day.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&e=3&u=/ap/kerry_war_critic

Navy Documents Cast Doubt on Kerry Critic

WASHINGTON - A Vietnam veteran who claims Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) lied about being under fire during a Mekong Delta engagement that won Kerry a Bronze Star was under constant fire himself during the same skirmish, according to the man's own medal citation, a newspaper reported.

The newly obtained records of Larry Thurlow show that he, like Kerry, won a Bronze Star in the engagement and that Thurlow's citation said he also was under attack, The Washington Post reported Thursday.

Thurlow, also like Kerry, commanded a Navy Swift boat during the Vietnam War. Thurlow swore in an affidavit last month that Kerry was "not under fire" when he rescued Lt. James Rassmann from the Bay Hap River.

Thurlow's records, obtained by the Post under the Freedom of Information Act, include references to "enemy small arms and automatic weapons fire" directed at all five boats in the flotilla that day. In his Bronze Star citation, Thurlow is praised for helping a damaged Swift boat "despite enemy bullets flying about him."

The records said Thurlow's actions "took place under constant enemy small arms fire," which Thurlow ignored in providing immediate assistance to the disabled boat and its crew.

Thurlow is a leading member of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a public advocacy group of Vietnam veterans who have aired a television advertisement attacking Kerry's war record.

Kerry has described how his boat came under fire from the river banks after a mine explosion disabled another U.S. Swift boat. Kerry and members of his crew say the firing continued as Kerry leaned over to fish out Rassmann, who was blown overboard in another explosion.

Thurlow described Kerry's Bronze Star citation as "totally fabricated," saying "I never heard a shot."

Thurlow, a registered Republican, said he was angry with Kerry for his anti-war activities after his return to the United States, especially his claim that U.S. troops committed war crimes with the knowledge of their officers up the chain of command.

Thurlow told the Post that he got the award for helping to rescue the boat that was mined.

"This casts doubt on anybody's awards," he said. "It is sickening and disgusting."

He said he believed his own award would be "fraudulent" if it was based on coming under enemy fire.

"We weren't under fire," he insisted, speculating that Kerry could have been the source of at least some of the language used in the citation.

Thurlow said he lost his Bronze Star citation more than 20 years ago. He said he would not authorize release of his military records because he feared the Kerry campaign would discredit him.

Members of Kerry's crew have said Kerry is telling the truth. Rassmann said he has vivid memories of enemies firing at him from both banks.
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Ghetto_Boy Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:44 AM
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1. The goal is to keep Kerry on the defensive, that way the RNC
sets the agenda.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:48 AM
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2. agreed, and we have been on the defensive
Like that ridiculous "sensitive" attack from Cheney, or Bush saying that Kerry would still have voted to go to war...

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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:53 AM
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3. The Republicans simply LIE. They pull sh!t straight out of their asses and
then force us to investigate to discredit them while their lies make the rounds of the Unsophisticated American Voter*.

*Copyright 1968 by Richard M. Nixon Productions
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:02 AM
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4. well, well, well...we all knew that he was lying...most Republicans do
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 08:07 AM by tandot
especially when they want to give their incompetent "President" four more years to destroy this country even more.

They'd do anything to have Bush re-selected. Lying is only a sin when Liberals are doing it...it seems to be an acceptable personality trait when it involves Republicans smearing Democrats...


This part is especially telling:
"Thurlow said he lost his Bronze Star citation more than 20 years ago. He said he would not authorize release of his military records because he feared the Kerry campaign would discredit him"

I assume that there is something in his records that would discredit him...why else would he say something like that???


On edit:

The story has a very low rating (on the bottom of article). I assume freepers already got a hold of it and rated it down.

Please rate the story! Thanks!
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