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wadestock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:48 AM
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Criticism of Kerry not being under fire is debunked.....
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040819/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_war_critic&cid=694&ncid=716

"The new Kerry ad began airing in three states where an anti-Kerry veterans group has run a commercial claiming Kerry lied about the incident and other aspects of his military service.

Kerry's response came as The Washington Post reported that a Vietnam veteran who claims Kerry lied about being under fire during a Mekong Delta engagement that won Kerry a Bronze Star was under constant fire himself during the same skirmish, according to the man's own medal citation.

The newly obtained records of Larry Thurlow show that he, like Kerry, won a Bronze Star in the engagement and that Thurlow's citation said he also was under attack, the Post reported. Thurlow, also like Kerry, commanded a Navy swift boat during the Vietnam War. He swore in an affidavit last month that Kerry was "not under fire" when he rescued Rassmann from the Bay Hap River.

Thurlow's records, obtained by the Post under the Freedom of Information Act, include references to "enemy small arms and automatic weapons fire" directed at all five boats in the flotilla that day. In his Bronze Star citation, Thurlow is praised for helping a damaged swift boat "despite enemy bullets flying about him."
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:56 AM
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1. <insert jon stewarts face><puzzeled look> WTF????
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 08:56 AM by opihimoimoi
Looks like a lie is a lie is a lie and Larry blew it...his own medal is a lie too??
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:00 AM
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2. Typical Republican bullshit.
They just like to make stuff up.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:05 AM
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3. I think the guy is being BLACKMAILED or PAID to lie about that incident.
Why else would some poor slob lie even about his own service that deserved merit that day?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:08 AM
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4. isnt this the kkk dude
some dudes dont have to be pressured into lieing they just do saying for the greater good, i can sell out my intigrity
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:08 AM
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5. Pub Pressure can come in dire forms I suppose....
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phylny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:23 AM
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6. I could be wrong, but
I think that some Vietnam Vets were SO devastated to come back to a country that was demonstrating against the war that they were drafted into and made many sacrifices for, so they look at anyone who was critical against it as an "enemy." To me, some veterans are just holding a grudge. But I retain the right to be wrong about this :)

Having said that, I can't think of anything more patriotic and American has serving your country and fighting in a war AND exercising your right to speak against it. Isn't that the essence of what we're supposed to be about?
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wadestock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 10:53 AM
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8. Kerry's attitude in all of this only impressed me that much more..
When I saw the early tapes about his position and the way he articulated it....I only came away with a sense that he was the "real thing".

I have many friends that went to Nam and there's not a one that it didn't do something intense to the heads. Kerry is one of the few that went there....put into perspective what happened...and came away with an overall very positive net gain for himself.

It's a direct reflection that he is the real deal and that he is solid in character....I wish more people would get that point.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:32 AM
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7. Lies aren't lies when the ends justify the means -
Thom Hartman had a nice riff on this the other day. Once you accept that the ends justify the means there are no rules. And it won't matter that he's lying about his own record, the people he cares about know it's all a lie. He's still a hero to his clique, even a bigger one now.
You know, like Rush. Their job is to muddy the waters for the little people and give ammo to the wingers who want to believe the lies.
Mission accomplished.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 10:58 AM
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9. Maybe he's a * loving
freeptard? I know many of them. They lose all reason to their love of the chimpwad.:puke:
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wadestock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 12:48 PM
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10. Kerry just on the radio.....
Saying....."I still have the shrapnel in my leg"....he's comin on strong....a great comeback indeed.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:02 PM
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11. jesus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! don't forget to rate this story....it's getting
only a 2.79!!!!

and with THREE THOUSAND responses!

that's horrible; obviously being freeped
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:10 PM
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12. They are trying to hide the truth
it is their normal modis operandi.

I notice I never see calls here to vote a news story LOW.
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