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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:02 AM
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WTF!?!? The DNC couldn't have made an ad defending KERRY???
This new Rassman swiftboat ad comes out of Kerry's $75 million that Bush hasn't even gotten yet.

Are you telling me the DNC couldn't have produced and paid for an ad to defend Kerry thus FORCING Kerry to spend part of his $75 million doing so?

Obviously the Rethug attacks are hurting or Kerry wouldn't produce and air an ad at this point. Every dollar will count come September and October.

And obviously, flush with new millions from the Kerry campaign, the DNC STILL has it's head up it's ASS.

Thanks, Terry, for HELPING Bush* increase his financial advantage even MORE.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:06 AM
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1. Playing Into Bush/Rove Hands
it ever occur to anyone that all these attacks from which Kerry must defend himself are calculated to make him burn through his money before October (while Bush still has plenty)?

And why isn't the DNC helping with this counter-assault? The only thing I can think is the ad has more meaning if Kerry says he approved it, which can only happen if it came from his funds.
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Irishladdie Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:07 AM
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2. Exactly
He had to approve the messege, thus use his own funds! Well worth it!! Go Kerry Go!!!
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:09 AM
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3. Not only that. . .
. . .but Kerry might not have wanted them to. I am not sure how much he can work with the DNC but I am sure if he wanted them to, they would have.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:10 AM
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4. You might want to read the 15 other threads going this morning..
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 11:10 AM by enigmatic
describing the counterattack going on right now by the Kerry campaign chopping up the swiftys like chopped liver, on top of the page one story in the Washington Post proving that Larry Thurlow is lying through his teeth about Kerry's Bronze star, as well as Kerry putting out a TV ad this morning slamming the swiftys.

Or you could continue to scream like Chicken Little.

Your choice.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:22 AM
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6. You could keep your head where it is since you are missing the point.
This is not a VICTORIOUS day for the Kerry campaign.

$75 million is NOTHING in modern campaigns and that is ALL the Kerry campaign can spend until election day.

The fact that they have to launch a PR campaign in August is SHAMEFUL and HURTFUL to the campaign.

You can rah-rah-rah the "fighting back" all you want but the fact remains that the campaign was SLOW to mount a defense to these baseless attacks and now they are spending IMPORTANT and LIMITED funds to "fight back."

If the DNC had immediately made an ad with Rassman and aired it, Kerry would be saving at least $750,000-$1,000,000 right now.

I'd rather scream and make a point than wave pom-poms at any chance.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:23 AM
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7. You overestimate the impact of as spending.
A $1 million Bush ad advantage after the Repug convention will not decide anything.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:24 AM
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10. Kerry is winning, my friend..
I'm sorry that's not enough for you.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:50 AM
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14. Listen, friend, a SINGLE vote hasn't been cast
Maybe YOU live in a country where George Dumbya Bush didn't have a 92% approval rating after 9/11 but I DID.

Maybe YOU live in a state where votes have been all cast and are being counted and Kerry is "winning" but where I stand, it's AUGUST and the GOP convention hasn't even HAPPENED and Kerry is spending his ONLY funds.

But you're right, I guess his campaign plane, come October 27th, can fly on good intentions....

:eyes:
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:54 AM
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17. I'm an American Citizen living in Canada..
And I'm too tired to continue to fight with you on this.

Peace.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:10 AM
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5. there are limits to ads made and paid outside the Kerry campaign
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 11:12 AM by JI7
limits such as kerry campaign not being able to take part in ad ideas.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:24 AM
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8. ANY of us at DU could come up with an ad strategy to refute these ads
It didn't take a brain surgeon to put Rassman in front of a camera.

The DNC should have done it weeks ago and saved Kerry money.

The financial advantage is even MORE in Bush's favor now....

Bush: $75 million

Kerry: $73 million? $72 million?

This is one less ad Kerry can make come October.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:27 AM
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11. Rassman is probably considered part of the Kerry campaign
if they pay his expenses to campaign . i don't know the rules. but it might prevent rassman from working with other groups directly to make an ad.

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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:24 AM
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9. The story has legs in the SCLM when the actual candidate speaks
out rather than having surrogates do it.

John Kerry is challenging Bush's manhood on this.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:45 AM
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12. link?
what has/hasn't the DNC spent on ads lately?

i.e., do you even know what you're so mad about?

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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:47 AM
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13. Boycott the DNC
They're a bunch of hacks w/ an agenda all their own. If $ you donate to them is given to the Kerry campaign, it's given w/ strings attached. If you're going to contribute give directly to the Kerry campaign OR to a 527 like Moveon.org.

Gyre
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 12:17 PM
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21. Any money you contribute to Kerry now WILL go to the DNC. Kerry can't
accept contributions as he has taken public finacing!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:53 AM
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15. I know. they released an ad about healthcare.
WITH FRIENDS LIKE THE DNC WHO NEEDS ENEMIES!!!!!!!!!grrrrrrrrrrr
this is the famous "Pink TuTu stategy" whenever the rethugs beat you up, turn the other cheek, don't fight back, take the high road, talk about healthcare or the economy, because it's not fair and the American people will vote their own interests. I want this policy killed and buried six feet under. With a stake in it's heart.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:54 AM
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16. The DNC will just have more money to spend later
duh

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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:55 AM
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18. I like that Kerry is doing the ad
It's got the JFK seal of approval with the "I'm John Kerry and I approve of this ad"

I think it shows class!!
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:56 AM
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19. "The Sky Is Falling! The Sky Is Falling!"
:eyes:

DTH
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 12:04 PM
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20. Several months ago I watched MacAuliffe showing off the new
DNC headquarters. One of the things he was most proud of was the new room to make rapid response ads. Essentially they take footage of the candidate and file it and they can produce ads quickly and cheaply. My understanding is that candidates can use this facility. My guess is that the Rassman footage was already shot and just spliced together for this ad. I doubt it cost very much since I don't see anything that is new other than the voice saying Kerry is being attacked on his record.
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