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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:07 PM
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Poll question: Nothing Kerry's campaign does will be good enough
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:10 PM
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1. Absolutely false.
Today was better than good enough. Today was awesome.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:12 PM
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2. It all depends on whom
is answering this question . We're a ways off from November and this is plenty of time for things to go further south in Iraq and for the Chimp administration to
anger yet more if his former supporters.
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michigandem2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:13 PM
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3. we can't rip apart everything he is doing..
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 01:14 PM by MelissaforKerry2004
I mean WHOSE side are we on??? we don't have to agree with EVERYTHING Kerry does but sometimes i feel like some of us don't agree with ANYTHING he does..the guys can't catch a break sometimes...

I think today was a good sign of things to come..they are only hanging themselves...this zell miller thing too..hopefully they can repeat his comments MANY times while he is speaking for the RNC...

edited to add a word
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:15 PM
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4. We all had better
get used to him not living up to our expectations because the next 4 years are going to be clean up. Anything else will have to wait I am afraid. We only know the surface of everything this administration has done. It must be a huge mess and it will take a lot to clean it up and put us back on some sort of track before we can expect a lot of the real changes to take place.
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:18 PM
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5. What expectations? I only have hope:
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 01:25 PM by BillyBunter
That he wins. That he would be better than Bush if he wins isn't an expectation but a fact.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:19 PM
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6. I think there is a lot of naivete here....
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 01:20 PM by kentuck
This was a great response by Kerry but he cannot go thru the rest of this campaign "picking and choosing" which attack to respond to. He must somehow find a way to get on the offensive. It is Bush and Cheney htat should be answering the questions - not John Kerry.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:40 PM
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16. Naivete
Its impossible to view the Bush attack as anything but defense. It is designed to obscure and detract from their own record on everything under their responsibility. Their strategy has only served to highlight their own deficiencies, from the economy to Iraq, from bush's absence from duty to cheney's refusal to serve.


"There is in every either-or a certain naivete which may well befit the evaluator, but ill- becomes the thinker, for whom opposites dissolve in series of transitions."
Robert Musil (1880–1942), Austrian author.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:21 PM
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7. Will YOU ever be satisfied
when the majority of people on DU are willing to suck it up and support Kerry, even reluctantly, or will you continue to focus on the decreasing numbers of people who will look for faults no matter what?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:25 PM
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8. I will focus on people who look for faults no matter what
because people looking for faults in defiance of fact and reality make me vomit into my own mouth.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:32 PM
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:37 PM
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14. Bravo, Will!
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 01:40 PM by RevRussel
Hehehe
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:27 PM
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9. Kerry is fine. Will Pitt should take a chill pill.
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 01:28 PM by Kahuna
I have been one of those to always try to discourage disrupters and public criticisms of Kerry by DUers. However, I did speak out during the past couple of weeks about a couple of things I thought Kerry needed to address, ASAP. That doesn't mean that I don't have faith in him. It means that I remember how ruthless and desperate the bushistas are. And that Kerry should be always mindful that they will be relentless in their lies and attacks. I believed that Kerry needed to deliver a very strong message to the bushistas that "he, is not the one." Now that he finally has, I'm very content.

So please, Will, stop assuming that anybody who criticizes the direction of the campaign is anti-Kerry. We're not. We want Kerry to win so desperately that we may get over anxious from time to time.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:28 PM
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10. Agreed.
eom
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:29 PM
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11. Thanks!
:hug:
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:33 PM
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13. I don't think that's his point.
Criticism is fine, good even. But some of the criticism, and the frequency of it, from some quarters here is excessive and counter-productive. If some of these people really want Kerry to win, they should think before they type, and not react to everything with a chicken little-esque "OMG OMG OMG look at this Kerry has to do something now now now," or "OMG OMG OMG he said this! I can't believe it, he's just like Dukakis/Gore/McGovern I can't vote for him he has no balls OMG OMG OMG!"

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:40 PM
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15. I don't know whether he meant in general or the past couple of weeks..
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 01:41 PM by Kahuna
As I said, I have been one of the major advocates of unity and of not criticizing Kerry on this board for fear that our criticisms could be picked up and repeated by the press. However, with Kerry's vague remarks to bush's challenge on the IWR and the Swiftboat Liars getting a lot of media attention, I, like many others were in panick mode.

This clip expresses the anxiety that was felt by a lot of democrats including political insiders.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=2&u=/ap/20040819/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_war_critic
snip

Senior Democrats, including some inside the presidential campaign, have urged Kerry to respond forcefully to the criticism, fearing that if left unanswered, it could hamper his quest for the White House.

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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:41 PM
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17. Cant be said any better!
The way Republican spin is repeated and amplified on DU is sickening. Freepers must love to come here and read this stuff, I can only imagine the comfort it must provide them.

Just like during the primary season I am having a hard time getting my credit card out for this fund drive. I have every time till now but why should I pay to read such annoying nonsense?

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:44 PM
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19. Al Gore slept their bogus attacks in 2000. And hence we have dubya.
Excuse us if we don't want to see the same thing happen in November. This has nothing to do with freepers. It has to do with clueless swing voters who are swayed by the negative media that Kerry has been receiving. We wanted Kerry to address the attacks. He has finally addressed them because it is the right thing to do.
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:46 PM
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20. Excuse me...
Al Gore did win the 2000 Election.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:52 PM
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21. I didn't say that he didn't. Reading is fundamental.
nt
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:59 PM
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22. Bingo
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redowl Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 01:41 PM
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18. good enough for what? all he has to do is WIN
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 01:41 PM by redowl
is this another whiny thread about everyone having to be in lockstep with the Kerry parade?

:eyes:

I hope he wins. If the campaign is good enough to do that then whoopee.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 02:34 PM
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23. Maybe the campaign won't and his minions won't and the talking heads
won't and all of us and our thousand fears will never find it enough..

But what Kerry himself will do WILL be good enough,WILL, and he WILL win because he knows that the fate of this country depends on him.

I have faith in my man.
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