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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 02:35 PM
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Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee
John Kerry won by a knockout today.

No TKO -- A dead, flat out, fist-in-your-face-ramming-your-nose-into-your-skull knockout.

Kerry's campaign reminds me of Ali -- finesse, style, brains.

Bush's campaign reminds me of Mike Tyson -- a bit bull brawler who is dumb as a sack of rocks.

Kerry let the issue fester for two weeks.

During that time, the setup was being staged.

It can not be coincidence that he delivered the knockout blow on the same day that his critics lies were exposed to the world. I mean, come on, Kerry used the guy's OWN medal citation to bolster his argument.

Fucking brilliant.

BRING IT ON!!!

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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 02:39 PM
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1. Let's see if the Kerry team can keep it up
and stay on the offensive. Things have been looking good regarding the polls. It will be interesting to see what people have to say after today.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 02:40 PM
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2. Shades of the Rumble in the Jungle
A few rounds of rope-a-dope and then the big bad opponent (all due respect and love for George Foreman) is on his ass, cold-cocked.

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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:38 PM
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5. At the time everyone thought Foreman was unstoppable
I mean he was huge, much bigger than Ali. He was more formidable looking and acting at that time than Tyson ever was, and he had knocked out cold most of his opponents.

The Foreman of that time was not the smiling face we know today. He was huge muscular menacing presence with a scowl and a record in the ring to fear...

I recommend everyone go and see When We Were Kings - it's the documentary about this fight and it is a gripping account with all kinds of footage from the period. It covers the months leading up to the fight and about how everyone thought Ali would lose.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:47 PM
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8. Who's that guy in the photo?
.....and don't tell me that's you!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:50 PM
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9. Heh
he's the real Slim Shady ;-)
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:38 PM
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16. Hey sweetheart how 'ya doing? I can always count on you to come
up with the straight poop. :bounce:
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:07 PM
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10. Why could it not be me?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:10 PM
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11. cause you're passed out on rum
:P
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:14 PM
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12. Honestly, I haven't tasted rum in years
:tinfoilhat:

I'm mostly a beer guy these days.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:40 PM
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17. I guess I could buy that one, 'eh? What's that in your hand?
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:45 PM
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18. The pic is Eminem
the rapper, aka, Slim Shady - and it's a mic in his hand.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:31 PM
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19. Thanks for the update. Could 'ya post the words to your best ?
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 10:04 PM
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20. For the readers out there, I'd also recommend David Remnick's
brilliant book centered around the Ali-Foreman fight "King of the World."

Probably the best sports book I have ever read; a brilliant work of nonfiction by the editor of the New Yorker.

Also, the fight tape itself is worth a watch. Incredible fight.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 03:26 PM
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3. Oh I so agree
Kerry's sly. And always everyone underestimates this man. Just as the pressure on his convention acceptance speech was so incredibly high and he pulled it off. I was actually amazed.

That's when I knew. He's not going down!

Smart wins over stupid and I even actually believe that good can win over rotten. It's so hard to believe and understand all the doubts, but still I keep saying-have faith in Kerry, he's smart with a fighter's heart.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:31 PM
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4. brains also indicate "staying power"
look at where Tyson is now.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:41 PM
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6. Fucking Brilliant, AND Bring it On!
Oh... Catwoman already said that!

I wholeheartedly agree, and felt so proud watching him today. He was right, wasn't he? In the primaries, when he promised us he was a FIGHTER, he wasn't bullshitting us.

He IS a closer. He KNOWS he's got Bush by the 'nads, and he's playing this perfectly.

Bravo, Kerry. Bravo.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:43 PM
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7. When I grow up, I wanna be just like him
:D

:hi:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:17 PM
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13. It's over before you know it started
That's the way it was in Iowa too. I think somebody said something like that a few days ago. :)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:21 PM
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14. God, it was genius--the Ali metaphor fits perfectly.
Awesome work, Mr. President!
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:28 PM
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15. I hope you're right. This bit of letting a smear fester for two weeks

is, in chess terms, like refusing to move your queen to protect your king.

Sadly enough, although we're happy with Kerry's move today, it's too early to see how it will impact the playing of the game, much less the outcome.
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volosong Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 10:29 PM
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21. Maybe, But You Can't Unring a Bell
The damage may be done beyond repair.

No one really knows.

I think Kerry may have waited too long.

Anyway, we have to figure out how to turn the public scrutinty back to the real issues: Iraq and George Bush's disgraceful Presidency.

If we don't, these idiotic charges will eat away like a cancer.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 10:32 PM
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22. you seen this?
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