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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:58 PM
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"I cannot believe that you walked into MY store with THAT t-shirt on!"
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 05:20 PM by in_cog_ni_to
I went to Radio Shack today and THIS is my adventure! :hi:

"You know, I should just kick you out of here!" and THEN he *sort of* grins and said, "Nah, I'm just jokin'." "I" said "Oh, PLEASE G-D, tell me you are NOT voting for BUSH!" He then walks toward me and says, "No, I won't tell you I'm voting for Bush. Just let me say this. I did vote for Bush the first time." *Me*..."Oh dear G-d, what a mistake." He says..."Now, let me finish!"

He continues....."I voted for this "regime" (his word) because I'm a small government kinda guy. THIS administration has been anything but small government. I understand some of it had to happen because of 911, but not all of it." I said..."And not to mention the HUGE deficit he has created with his tax cuts and the war." *Him*..".Exactly and I'm not sure I will be voting for him again." *Me*...."PLEASE, don't vote for him."

Then we talk about why I am in HIS store in the first place. I had stopped in to talk to them about my new Sirius Satellite radio. I wanted a modulator and asked him....."You want to know why I bought this "Orbiter" Satellite from Radio Shack? The ONLY reason I bought it here was because Radio Shack advertises on Air America radio." Surprised, he says....."Oh, really? We advertise on that station? They have Sirius Right and Sirius Left, right? *me*..."They sure do AND Air America!" He asks, "Is that a "left" wing station?" I said, "Yes, Al Franken "left" (meaning as far left as Al) The guy said..."Al Franken left the station?" LOL! :) "No, no, no...the station is a far left, nothing but left wing talk and that's why I bought this radio so I could listen to it." My son pipes up..."Yeah, Air America has Al Franken, Mike Malloy and Rhandi Rhodes!." The guy had NO clue who Rhandi Rhodes or Mike Malloy were.

Then the guy says to my son, "I noticed that you laughed when I said I had voted for Bush. How old are you, 10? My son..."No, I'm 11." The guy asks, "Why did you laugh? What do you know about politics?" My son said...."I don't know. I know Bush lied about the WMD and we have lost 1.8 million jobs." The guy..."You know what? I am just amazed that you know that! Most kids your age couldn't care less about politics. Heck, most people MY age don't care about politics!" (I would guess Mr. Radio Shack to be 23-26?) I said, "Well he knows a LOT about politics. He's been to a Howard Dean rally and a Wes Clark fundraiser and we live and breath politics." My son then says..."And don't forget our trip to Tennessee to help the Wes Clark Campaign."....The guys jaw dropped. :7

Then, I said to the guy..."Please, don't vote for Bush. Do you have any idea what he's doing to our country? We will be living under a fascist regime." He said..."Yeah, but Kerry is just so *honest* " and rolled his damn eyes. I asked...."What has Kerry lied about?" Him....."His so called Vietnam service." I said..."He didn't lie about that. He WAS in Nam! What did he lie about?" He couldn't answer...of course. Then I said, "Please, let me tell you what I learned this morning." He, AGAIN, rolls his eyes and said..."No, no, no nevermind." I touched his arm and said, "Please, just let me tell you this and maybe you will change your opinion of Kerry and the Swiftboat Vets." "Ok, go ahead."

I told him "This morning I read the Washington Post, A RIGHT WING PAPER and DRUDGE a RIGHT WING web site, they both had an article about Thurlow, the ONE and ONLY swiftboat Vet who actually KNEW Kerry and was actually on his boat. He had signed an affidavit stating that Kerry's boat had not taken small arms fire and it was a FLAT OUT LIE. Drudge AND the WP both had copies of his military records and Thurlow had received a Bronze Star because HIS BOAT HAD BEEN ATTACKED BY SMALL ARMS FIRE. THAT boat was the same boat Kerry was on. The man has been lying just because he wants to destroy Kerry." The guy says..."Oh, really?" and was speechless.....didn't say a word. :eyes: I asked him 3 times to tell me what Kerry has lied about and all 3 times he blew me off and changed the subject. :grr:


THEN, he says..."What about our Senate race? Oh, I know who YOU will be voting for." And I said...."OBAMA!" You're voting for Obama, right?" He said, "Probably not." I CRINGED!*&^%$#@ and said...."You're not voting for Keyes are you?!" He said, "yeah, I am, why?" *&^%$#@!@#$%%^ "WHY?!!!! Because the man is a TOTAL LOONY, that's why." He said..."You really think that?" *&^%$#@! "Uh, YEAH! The man actually had the nerve to say that Obama isn't a "TRUE" African AMERICAN because his dad wasn't born in this country." The guy..."He really said that?" Me...@#$%^&* "Yes, he REALLY said that. The man is NUTS!"

He then says...."Well, I agree with Keyes about Hillary and NY. He said SHE went to the NYers and the people of Illinois went to HIM." I said, "Oh puhlease! Hillary is an AWESOME Senator and the people of NY LOVE her! If she would have run for President this time around we would have had our first female president." The guy...."You think so? I don't." Me..."Every time they take a poll with presidential candidates and throw Hillary into the mix, she wins." That shut him up. ;)

He also told me that when he lived in Virginia he worked on the Governor's campaign. I asked him if that's where he's from and he said he was from EVERYWHERE because he was from a MILITARY FAMILY. Aaaaaah. That explained a LOT to me. :eyes:

So, I check out and say to him, "Don't forget to vote! Vote early and vote often!" He just grinned and we left. Whew! Was THAT fun! :bounce:


We left Radio Shack and walked down to the theater to see a movie and the young man selling the tickets says, "I really like your t-shirt!" I said "THANKS, want a bumpersticker?" Him..."Do you really have one? I would love to have one!" I gave him a bumperstcker and he asked, "Do you work for the Kerry campaign or something?" I said, "Nope, just a HOPEFUL citizen!" He said..."That is awesome that someone would care enough to hand out bumperstickers for a campaign. Thank you so much!"

What a day! Wear your Kerry t-shirts wherever you go! and keep a supply of buttons and bumperstickers with you. I have run out of buttons and had to re-order. People ARE interested. :bounce:

Sorry this is so long. It's been a loooong day politickin'! :hi:

edited to break up the loooong paragraphs. :hi:
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:02 PM
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1. Thanks for the good story!
We will convert "them" one person at a time.
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fdr_hst_fan Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:04 PM
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4. Don't count on it!
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:03 PM
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2. You Rock.

Everytime I try and talk politics, I feel like I'm trying to well them on religion or something.

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:03 PM
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3. Great post!
This was fun to read! Thanks. :thumbsup:
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:06 PM
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5. Thanks for sharing!
And any time a Keyes' apologist (if ya can find another one, that is) throws out that Hillary bunk, just say, "Hey, Hillary ran in her party's primary and WON the nomination. Keyes didn't."

Shuts 'em right up :hi:

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:14 PM
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12. Tell him some of Keyes' positions
like not allowing direct election of Senators, that rape victims have to have their unwanted babies, and the same for incest. Not for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if Keyes considered birth control murder.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:24 PM
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19. OOOOHhhhhhh! That's a good one..I hadn't even thought
of that..because I was freakin' out about keyes saying the people went to him shit.

I voted in that primary, too!
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 10:52 PM
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38. and also
that NY Democrats (Rangel, Moynihan, Schumer, etc.) sought Hilary too, so Keyes' claims that the GOP sought him while Hilary, by contrast sought NY are yet another example of repuke lies!
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:06 PM
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6. Awww, what more can I say, 'cept that
:yourock:
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:07 PM
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7. Great story!
I needed that!

I love that your son was more informed than the Radio Shack guy! Yay!!!:7
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:08 PM
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8. Great Story, Thank You !!!
TWO MORE MONTHS !!!

TWO MORE MONTHS !!!

TWO MORE MONTHS !!!


And a couple a weeks, LOL!!!

:toast:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:10 PM
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9. If we're afraid to show our support publically then why should they vote..
...for kerry.

Seriously - I wear my Kerry/Anti-Bush stuff all the time and I usually have a stash of pins/stickers/bumperstickers to hand out to folks who ask about it.

I'm also going to buy some stuff to make business cards to hand out to folks who ask about what I'm wearing. It'll mention where you can buy your own stuff (including an 800# for Kerry Gear) AND since I'm in Delaware it'll list phone numbers to find out where your voting district is located.
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:58 PM
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36. I did some business cards
that have Kerry's picture on the front and the website address and the meetup website on the back.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:11 PM
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10. thats an awesome story! where do you & your son campaign next??!!
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:14 PM
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11. I read the 4 paragraphs from news and editorials..but every word of
a personal experience?? I just realized that!!!...Thanks for this post. I usually drink these posts up like water a person lost in the desert for days might drink!!! :bounce: Thanx!!!!! :hi:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:14 PM
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13. long......and read it all
thank you for sharing. i love these stories the most, the pulse of what is happening. always go to these thread. love the info threads second
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:15 PM
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14. Excellent Post!
:kick:
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:16 PM
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15. A grand day and a cool story to go with it.
:toast: Thanks for sharing it.

Please give your extremely sharp:thumbsup:, well informed:bounce:, and very wise:yourock: son of yours a huge HI and tell him how proud we are of him. He pays attention and he cares. He is "cool!"
:-) AND he KICKED some serious ANUS on a grown-up freepy guy :dem:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 06:47 PM
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31. I will tell him!
He will be thrilled. He's our future and so far, so good. He really LIKES politics! It's a good first step. Thank You for your kind words! :hi:
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 10:08 PM
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Greatly appreciated in-cog
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 10:14 PM by RFK2
I believe it's very important that your son knows that he brought much joy and hope to many that read your story today and that he has a virtual army of DUer's and Dem's all over the country (the world?) that cheered him mightily for speaking bravely, truthfully and assuredly and we are also very proud of him, just as surely as his wonderful Mommy and Daddy must be :-)
:hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:22 PM
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16. That was fun to read, too! I found out something, also...
keyes is sayin' that Hillary went to the People of New York and that's why he's not a carpet bagger and a major Hypocrite?

I think I heard that Daniel Patrick Moynihan talked to Hilary about running when he left the Senate..I could be wrong..but worth checking out.

There's got to be someway to rip apart his deflecting of his hypocrisy.

And, yeah, Hillary pols high in New York.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:23 PM
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18. Yes, and at least Hillary bought a house and moved in... not an apartment
like Keyes...
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 10:55 PM
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39. you're exactly right
Moynihan, Rangel and Schumer wanted Hilary to run and sought her out!
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:22 PM
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17. Wow... what a great read... almost brought tears to my eyes...
with the ticket clerk! Way to go! :thumbsup:
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:26 PM
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20. Great job!
You and millions of others like you who get involved are the true patriots this year.
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LifeDuringWartime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:27 PM
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21. interesting
the guys who work at my local radio shack are usually very nice! then again, ive never worn a kerry shirt in there.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:28 PM
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22. Thanks for the story! And your son sounds terrific!
I really enjoyed your narrative of the visit to Radio Shack. You've got guts and decency for talking one-on-one with this guy.

And it's a great idea to carry Kerry-Edwards gear with you. I'll be doing the same.

Thanks again!
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:31 PM
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23. It is awesome that someone would care enough to hand out bumperstickers.
You are awesome! Great post!
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wildeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:34 PM
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24. oh, my husband debunk the swifties today at work.
A young co-worker asked about what the deal was with John Kerry's Vietnam service, so my husband when online and printed three stories from reputable news sources debunking the swift boat liars.

The co-worker (about 25) and his girlfriend went to see F9/11 last week, registered to vote the next day and are now asking questions. Very nice to see young voters waking up a little bit.

We will win this thing one voter at a time.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 06:43 PM
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30. The 20 somethings are the ones we need to motivate.
After the Dean movement, I'm afraid they may feel like..."Why bother."
After all the work they did for that campaign and it's failing, they may be a little disillusioned in politics. I hope not. I hope they are all just as motivated to get Bush OUT of office. Dean is THE reason the Democrats are so motivated and I hope they haven't lost their passion for politics.
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wildeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:03 PM
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33. I volunteer with a number of Dean supporters.
The ones I know are extremely motivated. But I did not spend time with the original campaign, so I don't have much to compare them to.

I do know that a small town near by now has a democratic headquarters that is solely staffed by Democracy for America volunteers, so that is good news.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:17 PM
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34. solely staffed by Democracy for America volunteers
No kidding???! That is awesome. Where I live, we have NO Democratic Headquarters....headed by anyone. :(

It's pathetically republican here.
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cybildisobedience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:37 PM
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25. great story
Thanks for dealing so effectively with these morans....
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:38 PM
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26. You misrepresented the case: Thurlow was NOT on Kerry's boat
Thurlow was the skipper of another boat in the group of swift boats that went on the mission. How could you miss that had you actually read the Washington Post story? You told the Radio Shack guy a falsehood, and when he finds out, he's going to think everything you said was a lie. Congratulations.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 06:33 PM
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29. I DID read the article this morning at 6:00 A.M. The whole darn thing.

Gardner was who I was thinking of. He was on the boat and had bashed Kerry. I confused the 2 in my mind. The whole time I was reading that article, I was "thinking" Gardner, not remembering his name, was Thurlow. I just went back and read it again. Shit, damn, damn. I screwed up. :spank:

It still doesn't change the fact that the guy LIED on an affidavit and has now been proven to be a liar. I really doubt that Mr. Radio Shack will make the connection of him being ON the boat or ANOTHER boat. It doesn't change the lie that Thurlow told. Thanks for setting me straight on that fact though. I really do hate repeating falsehoods....it doesn't help when I'm trying to make my case for Kerry. :(
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:42 PM
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27. "the Washington Post, A RIGHT WING PAPER "
huh?

Remember The Pentagon Papers? Watergate? etc
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:01 PM
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40. yeah, that was in the 1970s
but the paper went whore in the 1990s with Susan Schmidt's lying bullshit Clinton stories (she was trying to keep up with Jeff Gerth at the NYT!). It has lost its luster and much of its credibility with its Bush coddling ways and irresponsible reporting in the buildup to the Iraq War.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 05:43 PM
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28. kick for positive vibrations!!
:kick:

What a great story. Thanks.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 06:57 PM
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32. Bravo!!! I think you really got your point across to that guy.
And I think he will reconsider his vote in November.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:56 PM
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35. It's just mind-blowing how stupid the American people are.
n/t
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:04 PM
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41. gullible and willingly
unquestioning of loudmouths.

If something is stated loudly and frequently enough, many Americans will believe it. No independent investigation, no willingness to check things out, no inclination TO READ!
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